What was your favorite Wesker appearance in the games?

[Daargoth]

for some reason I really liked his Code Veronica appearance. I mean you see his face on the loading screen but you never expect him in the 2nd act when you take control of Chris. And in CV:X, he appears in that Clare beat down before the mansion.

Plus the birth of Wesker's matrix moves!! and the Chris and Wesker fight.

[REmaster]

Yea hopefully they will do CV wesker some justice in DSC.

[Weskers Flag]

"Plus the birth of Wesker's matrix moves!! and the Chris and Wesker fight."

I love the Chris and Wesker fights.

[kevstah2004]

People, people seriously you need get off Waugh's dick.
DC Douglas has been in one game as Wesker yes I don't count
UC because he was forced to to imitate Waugh to pander to
you overly obsessive Waugh fans. How many games has Waugh done
as Wesker? can't you guys at least give DC Douglas the opportunity to star in more games to perfect his Wesker voice just as you did with Waugh.
imo DC Douglas is already better than Waugh even when DC Douglas
talks with his normal voice he still has the same kinda tone which I think benefits
him more when doing Wesker it sounds more natural and not forced. I also find it funny
nobody gives Sergio any credit yet he was the one who invented the whole Wesker voice in the first place so if you think about it every other Wesker is just a cheap imitation of him, I'm sure Sergio could of done miles better too but re1 was meant in the styling of a b horror movie it wasn't meant to be audiophile
perfect you only have to listen to Barry's dialogue to know that.

[Enetirnel]

[EDIT: My apologies on the long post, please do NOT quote this because of it's length. I didn't realize I wrote so much.]

As much as I like Waugh's performance I am inclined to agree with Kevstah, some moments of it did sound slightly forced (and I've seen/heard the majority of roles Sergio, Jessop, Waugh and Douglas have each taken, so it's not just from hearing their performances' in-game).

Either way, all of the men are talented and have been trying to please the fans and as Douglas was given samples of Sergio Jones, Peter Jessop and Richard Waugh's work in the series - he was trying to cover all bases, and he has admitted that at the time of Umbrella Chronicles he had no idea how important Wesker was... which is why he stepped it up and tried to put on his own touch, whilst remembering the changes over time and still remembering Sergio's initial performance.

I personally find that each voice actor has put their own touch on the game in which they voiced Wesker in, for instance some of the B-Grade dialogue and acting in the first game just would not have worked, as Kevstah has pointed out. I mean, it wouldn't fit with Barry's dialogue to have Wesker sounding too: sarcastic, mechanical... etc - as that would be absolutely off due to Wesker's dialogue featuring varying tones that aren't always easily seen which adds to the overall mystery surrounding his character on the whole.

Personally, I found the different voice actors over time have shown some changes in Wesker. Some good, some bad and I'm going to nitpick on a couple of things that somewhat annoy me whenever I play the games -

First RE: The dialogue, as Sergei speaks and pauses slightly in the middle of words or sentences which adds to the cheesy style. This and other things make it impossible to believe some of the things in the game, lulling the gamer into a false sense of security until it's all snatched away at the very end. Overall, my issue with this is... that it causes me to either have to mute or turn it up and laugh due to over-influenced sections.

RE-CV:X Some of Waugh's sections sounded monotonous, even mechanical - most easily recognized when Wesker laughs, and when Chris and Wesker meet up again. Overall, I do enjoy Waugh's performance in RE-CV:X and RE4 and his spin on Wesker has given him a more dignified persona... however minor flaws in his performance as I have mentioned before when I know that he can actually hold the tone and have emotions within his voice whilst being in-character. Some of Waugh's best scenes in my opinion came from Zero and RE4 as some of the earlier issues were improved on with his performance.

REmake/REbirth, continuing after Sergio's initial performance on the line of accent, tone - increased speed and a slightly more sarcastic touch was added, and worked out well. However, Jessop's performance was let down by some slight nasally-sounding sections which interrupted some of the most important scenes in REmake/REbirth. It's not something extremely obvious, but just something that irked me.

RE:UC, was an amalgamation of all previous Wesker performances - in attempts to cover all areas and to please the fan-base. Sadly, as Douglas was not aware of how important Wesker was at the initial time - it let his performance down, but his performance in RE5 more than made up for it.

Overall, if there's anyone that I've happy to take over to voice Wesker... it's D.C. Douglas as he understands and has tried to keep some of the previous habits of Wesker's past voices whilst including his own take on it, his voice flows and doesn't feel forced, mechanical and continues to be bit of a mysterious smooth talker, as Wesker was in his initial appearance. For example of things Douglas has kept in with his performances, Wesker breathing through his mouth causing a little bit of either growling or breathlessness when talking, keeping in mind of Wesker's past (as seen with RE5) which leads to just why he has a Mid-Pacific accent and of course not forgetting the effects of the mutation which appears to have made him follow primal thought/instincts more which is why his style in RE5 works - filled with emotion, but if one did not know it was Wesker then once could listen to it and on the overall visualize something that was once civilized that had become somewhat wild and something you certainly would not like to run into with him in a foul mood.

Overall, I have to say that I'm absolutely at a loss to say what was my favorite Wesker appearance in any of the games would probably have to be his initial appearance. However, I do like the fact that Wesker has gotten a bit more styled in character design and/or clothing choices (such as the turtlenecks and suits) so... for me it's the first game/tied with REmake for his more human side as well as the sections on the first game from Umbrella Chronicles. In no way has my choice been biased due to voice actors in contrast to some of the debating I've seen around on this subject on Wesker and his vocal presence.

[missvalentine]

People, people seriously you need get off Waugh's dick.
I also find it funny nobody gives Sergio any credit yet he was the one who invented the whole Wesker voice in the first place so if you think about it every other Wesker is just a cheap imitation of him, I'm sure Sergio could of done miles better too but re1 was meant in the styling of a b horror movie it wasn't meant to be audiophile perfect you only have to listen to Barry's dialogue to know that.

If you notice Waugh is losing this poll. People need to get off DC's dick.

BTW i voted for Sergio as my favorite Wesker voice, Waugh is second to Sergio, Sergio always has and always will be the best Wesker VA.

[EDIT: My apologies on the long post, please do NOT quote this because of it's length. I didn't realize I wrote so much.]


RE-CV:X Some of Waugh's sections sounded monotonous, even mechanical - most easily recognized when Wesker laughs, and when Chris and Wesker meet up again. Overall, I do enjoy Waugh's performance in RE-CV:X and RE4 and his spin on Wesker has given him a more dignified persona... however minor flaws in his performance as I have mentioned before when I know that he can actually hold the tone and have emotions within his voice whilst being in-character. Some of Waugh's best scenes in my opinion came from Zero and RE4 as some of the earlier issues were improved on with his performance.

The longest posts are sometimes the best and most interesting posts.

I love Waugh, but i didn't like him in CVX much, he was ok in RE0 and RE4, but Waugh's best performance by far, and the reason i love him so much is his voice over in Wesker's Report. That, is the voice of Wesker, That is almost as good as Sergio Jones's Wesker voice. When i think of Wesker i think of his opening line in Wesker's Report.

"My name is Albert Wesker, I aspired to become a leading researcher at Umbrella Inc..."

Pure Brilliance.

[Enetirnel]

I love Waugh, but i didn't like him in CVX much, he was ok in RE0 and RE4, but Waugh's best performance by far, and the reason i love him so much is his voice over in Wesker's Report. That, is the voice of Wesker, That is almost as good as Sergio Jones's Wesker voice. When i think of Wesker i think of his opening line in Wesker's Report.

I knew I forgot to write that about the Report (I was actually watching Wesker's Report when I was writing that up), personally that's my absolutely favorite one of Waugh's performance of Wesker and that is what I think of too, however it's generally followed by Sergio Jones' performance and Douglas'.

Just for in-game, he had improved in Zero and Four in contrast to CV:X. Still, on the overall I'm happy with the vocal transitions (excluding the amalgamation from RE:UC, which was alright for the majority but as I said earlier... that was caused by trying to take on too much of a mixture of the previous voice actors' in a singular rendition).

Sergei can be considered as the best, as he was the first person to provide the initial voice for Wesker - and as Douglas had stated in his UnWired T.V. Interview that continuing a line and trying to keep the initial style/range for a character that is important to a series (that would also upset the fans of the series if it was finalized in an odd manner, which is what we saw with the outcry on the choice of Douglas for Waugh).

As long as the vocals are influenced from the initial performance from the original/Jones and are not anything drastic (for example, it would be terrible of Wesker was given Barry's voice) then I honestly cannot select a voice actor as they have all had their pros and cons in their performances as Wesker and they all deserve respect for their own performances which again leads to it what I stated earlier - They've all voiced Wesker, they are each seen AS Wesker but the truth of the matter is that regardless of preferred performances - each and every one of the voice actors have brought a little something more to Wesker as he - as a character has evolved over time along with the Biohazard / Resident Evil series.

... Which is why I'm actually not going to pick the best vocal performance as they are all Wesker regardless of pointless bickering (and sheer rudeness towards each other on one's opinion) on who spoke/recorded better, they have all been Wesker at one point and really... Wesker... IS WESKER. To which if I have to vote on the poll, then it would be for when Wesker first appeared and that my choice has been in no way influenced by his voice actor.

[missvalentine]

I knew I forgot to write that about the Report (I was actually watching Wesker's Report when I was writing that up), personally that's my absolutely favorite one of Waugh's performance of Wesker and that is what I think of too, however it's generally followed by Sergio Jones' performance and Douglas'.

Very well said Enetirnel.

Douglas is a good Voice actor, very talented, but it's just my opinion that i don't think he really suits Wesker, but maybe in future game, a prequel perhaps he can improve. Don't get me wrong, he was terrific in RE5. But it's like with music, a song could be the best song in the world, but if your not into that certain genre you probably will not like it. Same with my opinion of Douglass, he is a great VA, but i just don't like him or his personnel take on Wesker much..

[Enetirnel]

Very well said Enetirnel.

Douglas is a good Voice actor, very talented, but it's just my opinion that i don't think he really suits Wesker, but maybe in future game, a prequel perhaps he can improve. Don't get me wrong, he was terrific in RE5. But it's like with music, a song could be the best song in the world, but if your not into that certain genre you probably will not like it. Same with my opinion of Douglass, he is a great VA, but i just don't like him or his personnel take on Wesker much..

Thank you.

I do agree to that he is a very talented man, my overall opinion of his work in RE5 was that it was fitting (as the easiest way to say it, would be that Wesker had gotten a tad... feral - just using this as a term for his more primal behavior/fighting manner in contrast to earlier and more civilized scenes with him from the past games) with some of the twists and turns on his vocal work for RE5. RE: UC is something neutral, as I can't really blame Douglas for what happened with it as he was given the samples and was trying to cover all areas.

I believe that if his performance is on the same level or on a general relation to RE5, then RE: DC should be fine for when he appears. However it would be interesting had they created a vocal transference during the game (which can also be considered as the various stages of the voice actors who have taken on the role of Wesker, which has added to his character with the vocal changes).

Still, I must stand by my earlier statement and I do understand that everyone is allowed to their own opinion Missvalentine and I respect your opinion on the matter (It's just that some people are rather childish about it when they have such opposite opinions). I must say though, personally I won't judge on Douglas' performance for RE: DC until we actually see footage or when the game is released as I know many people didn't like his performance in RE:UC, then he came back for RE5 and they were suddenly backing the choice for Douglas...

So I would have to say that I would go with the very first Resident Evil to be my favorite Wesker appearance, completely ignoring the voice and going with written dialogue... given when I was first introduced to RE at a young age, with such chaos unleashed within the Mansion - Wesker seemed to be the only calm, logical person in the situation... only to find out that it was all a ruse and have that false sense of security ripped away from you. It was that revelation of his true intentions, instead of a continuation and knowing the actual truth that really made Wesker such an interesting character and which is why I would have to go with that for my choice... for the poll.

[missvalentine]

So I would have to say that I would go with the very first Resident Evil to be my favorite Wesker appearance, completely ignoring the voice and going with written dialogue... given when I was first introduced to RE at a young age, with such chaos unleashed within the Mansion - Wesker seemed to be the only calm, logical person in the situation... only to find out that it was all a ruse and have that false sense of security ripped away from you. It was that revelation of his true intentions, instead of a continuation and knowing the actual truth that really made Wesker such an interesting character and which is why I would have to go with that for my choice... for the poll.

Well i agree with this cause RE1 Wesker is also my favorite iteration of Wesker because of the dialog too. And the fact that in this one we think Wesker is good at the beginning, but then later discover his treachery. And we actually get to talk to him for a bit every now and then, rather than just idle banter before fighting, or Wesker thinking his plans out loud like in all the other games. Also this is Wesker's most mysterious appearance ever, and his coolest appearance too i think.

[Enetirnel]

Well i agree with this cause RE1 Wesker is also my favorite iteration of Wesker because of the dialog too. And the fact that in this one we think Wesker is good at the beginning, but then later discover his treachery. And we actually get to talk to him for a bit every now and then, rather than just idle banter before fighting, or Wesker thinking his plans out loud like in all the other games. Also this is Wesker's most mysterious appearance ever, and his coolest appearance too i think.

That's wonderful. Which is one of the reasons as to why I love the first RE (and I've been going through RE - DS in the Multiplayer Mode as Wesker) as it's by far more interesting to hear/see his thoughts outside of revenge on Chris from the end of the game among other things, which is why the first RE/RE1/REmake/RE - DS has such a replay value and regardless of how many times I play it, I still become lulled into his scheme in contrast to his later appearances which are more or less as the obvious.

Admittedly, even though his costume/character design has been changed over the time and appearances within the series... I am personally a sucker for the S.T.A.R.S. uniform which shows a more human side to him before his H.C.F., RE4 and RE5 costume/character designs.

[kevstah2004]

I think everyone picked up Wesker was evil from the outset just from the way he says
"Maybe it's Chris"
or
"Well i'm sorry but he's probably... ?" dead"
he couldn't be a more sarcastic arsehole if he tried.

[missvalentine]

That's wonderful. Which is one of the reasons as to why I love the first RE (and I've been going through RE - DS in the Multiplayer Mode as Wesker) as it's by far more interesting to hear/see his thoughts outside of revenge on Chris from the end of the game among other things, which is why the first RE/RE1/REmake/RE - DS has such a replay value and regardless of how many times I play it, I still become lulled into his scheme in contrast to his later appearances which are more or less as the obvious.

(Sorry, I'm gonna get into a rant here).

Yes i totally agree, i liked Wesker much better when he wasn't focused on getting revenge on Chris or taking over the world and such things, I think story lines like that are overdone and boring, I never really was interested in them much.

And i also didn't like the fact that once Chris and Wesker's feud started it pushed everything else in the series aside and for some stupid reason capcom begun to focus on this irrelevant side story. Which infuriated me.

I mean there little fight in CV was ok, and cool, but it should have ended there, and instead it dragged on for nearly 10 years! And i contribute it the the ruination of RE. RE is humans surviving against zombies, not human against human confrontation.

But Ive always not liked those types of things, part of the reason i didn't like MGS4's story was way to much Snake VS Liquid Ocelot stuff, which totally ruined all three characters for me.

But of coarse everyone is against me, because Wesker was oh so cool in RE5 with his badass moves and cool graphics and terrible comic book lines and bad storyline of revenge and world domination.

I liked him when he was an underdog to Spencer, he was creppy and mysterious, and we new next to nothing about him at all. He worked alone, and we didn't know how he achieved his goals, he was intelligent and cool. Sneaking around plotting in the shadows, a very good character, he never came out on the open.

I liken this to movies, now movies are mainly focused on how many explosions and visual effects shots that can get into every scene. There is far less dialog and a lot less focus on character development and story. It's a lot less personnel, and you don't feel for the characters as much anymore with most new movies. But with old movies, they didn't have the money to do realistic special effects much, so a lot of the movie was more focused on storytelling and getting to know and feel for the characters, and the fight scenes where very up close and personnel. Notice in old movies, when there is a battle scene, the camera often shows a close up of the characters faces showing the emotion and hardships they are going though, this is a lot less common in newer films because it means less explosion time. Anyways i think i like older style films better, but Ive gotten way of topic.

Anyways, it's similar with Wesker, they focusing more now on how badass can they make him. In my opinion RE1 was his most badass appearance ever, and yet he did not flips and dodged no bullets at all, but it was his calm and cool demeanor and awesome dialog that made him what he was to begin with, and that's why i liked Wesker back then. I do not like this new hyperactive Wesker at all.

So my favorite appearances of Wesker would be in RE1, then Remake, then his VA in Wesker's Report and lastly RE0. Back when Wesker was still cool.

Admittedly, even though his costume/character design has been changed over the time and appearances within the series... I am personally a sucker for the S.T.A.R.S. uniform which shows a more human side to him before his H.C.F., RE4 and RE5 costume/character designs.

Yes i agree so much, that STARS Uniform was so cool, and made him feel like he is human as well, which i liked. Made it feel like he to was trapped in the mansion, trying to escape, like he was on our side. Until later we found out he wasn't.

[Enetirnel]

And i also didn't like the fact that once Chris and Wesker's feud started it pushed everything else in the series aside and for some stupid reason capcom begun to focus on this irrelevant side story. Which infuriated me.

I mean there little fight in CV was ok, and cool, but it should have ended there, and instead it dragged on for nearly 10 years! And i contribute it the the ruination of RE. RE is humans surviving against zombies, not human against human confrontation.

But Ive always not liked those types of things, part of the reason i didn't like MGS4's story was way to much Snake VS Liquid Ocelot stuff, which totally ruined all three characters for me.

But of coarse everyone is against me, because Wesker was oh so cool in RE5 with his badass moves and cool graphics and terrible comic book lines and bad storyline of revenge and world domination.

I liked him when he was an underdog to Spencer, he was creppy and mysterious, and we new next to nothing about him at all. He worked alone, and we didn't know how he achieved his goals, he was intelligent and cool. Sneaking around plotting in the shadows, a very good character, he never came out on the open.

I liken this to movies, now movies are mainly focused on how many explosions and visual effects shots that can get into every scene. There is far less dialog and a lot less focus on character development and story. It's a lot less personnel, and you don't feel for the characters as much anymore with most new movies. But with old movies, they didn't have the money to do realistic special effects much, so a lot of the movie was more focused on storytelling and getting to know and feel for the characters, and the fight scenes where very up close and personnel. Notice in old movies, when there is a battle scene, the camera often shows a close up of the characters faces showing the emotion and hardships they are going though, this is a lot less common in newer films because it means less explosion time. Anyways i think i like older style films better, but Ive gotten way of topic.

Anyways, it's similar with Wesker, they focusing more now on how badass can they make him. In my opinion RE1 was his most badass appearance ever, and yet he did not flips and dodged no bullets at all, but it was his calm and cool demeanor and awesome dialog that made him what he was to begin with, and that's why i liked Wesker back then. I do not like this new hyperactive Wesker at all.

So my favorite appearances of Wesker would be in RE1, then Remake, then his VA in Wesker's Report and lastly RE0. Back when Wesker was still cool.

Yes i agree so much, that STARS Uniform was so cool, and made him feel like he is human as well, which i liked. Made it feel like he to was trapped in the mansion, trying to escape, like he was on our side. Until later we found out he wasn't.

I understand and agree wholeheartedly with that. However, the overall feeling I had gotten from RE:UC was that by 2003 Wesker had gotten over his issues with Chris from the Mansion Incident (as he destroyed Umbrella, saw Chris and if you include the tie-in Manga - he came face to face with Chris and seemed that he could care less, that Chris was just someone that was just THERE) which is why I found RE5 slightly... off and I know it wasn't just myself that felt that way (I gave around twenty people an introduction to RE covering everything, and even they keep on messaging me about this fact on the Wesker and Chris feud).

I mean, it makes much more sense with the CVX battle and over time... Wesker just became tired of planning revenge on Chris and realized that it was partially his own fault that his plan failed causing the loss of his humanity. Considering how logical Wesker was when he was first introduced, it would have been the logical step... however RE5 brought about some changes as you have mentioned, can be seen as akin to Snake and Ocelot from the MG/MGS series.

I also have to agree with that, Wesker has always been in my book (pardon the language) a "Cunning, mysterious, intelligent (and somewhat creepy) magnificent bastard" although the scenes in RE5 were cool and all... it was too Matrix-inspired for my liking considering Wesker is a 60s'-child it seems quite off more-so since everything is about visual effects, due to the general society simply basing ideals of visual representations in contrast to older creations that relied on designs, music and overall production to create an atmosphere which is what made the original RE games actually scary in contrast to RE4 and RE5's action base of jump-from-heights+knife fights+flashy explosions.

Characters that are more suitable for a more active personality are those such as Chris, whereas Wesker in everything has always been such a coldly/calmly worded, intelligent person who hides his motives and feelings to avoid detection from others in case it could ruin his plans or break up the flow of the workplace (we couldn't have Wesker reacting like say... Brad for extremes, that would be absolutely useless even under stress when working for S.T.A.R.S. OR Umbrella).

I like the original Wesker appearances the most - RE/REmake/RE-DS however I do enjoy RE0, CVX (as it is understandable to why he was still angry, and it was only a few months after the incident so he was quite an enraged man), the RE4 appearances slightly - on the same amount as his appearance in RE:UC Dark Legacy. That initial image of him in the S.T.A.R.S. uniform feigning his confusion... it left a lasting representation of him as a character on the whole and I would have to honestly leave it at that none of his other appearances have left such a mark on me as his initial one.

[GuardhouseMusic]

I remember in your first post, Enetirnel, you said something along the lines of one's VA preference really depending on what they want in a character. Along with yourself and missv, I prefer Wesker as the rogue string-puller. From RE0-RECV:X (to some extent), Wesker differs from Spencer in that he's more of an opportunist; as evidenced by Wesker's Report II he didn't understand what Spencer was planning, and he also felt his own safety was in jeopardy by staying under Spencer's command. He doesn't want any form of grandeur, he just wants to get ahead. It seems as if by observing the failure of Umbrella's best and brightest (Marcus, the Ashfords, even and especially Birkin), Wesker understands where his priorities should be: success, wealth, and self-control as opposed to egoistic notions of omnipotence.

Of course one could rationalize that by meeting his maker these plans shattered into a messianic complex, but I still feel that RE5 betrayed Wesker's self-control. Another possibility is the influence of the primogenitor virus, but it seems that Umbrella Chronicles has some files wherein Wesker worries about his humanity being destroyed.

I voted for Peter Jessop simply because he encompassed the collected Wesker. A great example is just after killing Plant 42 as Jill, when he gives her the idea Barry's been acting "flaky." He's able to fool Jill, and subsequently give her orders. What's significant about this is that she has no idea where he's been, let alone the fact that he ran into Barry, when Barry has already provided Jill with assistance on more than one occasion. Who would you be more suspicious of? Jessop delivers these lines as if he's telling Jill to simply "sweep and clear."