Some questions about resident evil 2 trial (re beta experts, i need your help!)

[warren]

Hello eyeryone! I’m new here , even if it is years that I follow the resident evil beta community, especially the bioflames forum.

I hope that someday dotcal and the others will finally recover resident evil 1.5 (and re2 beta 1.. yeah, I’m dreaming, but I want to play the beta 1 as much as resident evil 1.5).

Anyway, I have some questions about resident evil 2 trial..i’m not an expert , so I need help. Thanks in advance

1)first of all, i think that the demo is a build created between re2 beta 1 and and re2 beta 2.. am i wrong ?

2) in the trial you can't go in basket court. They blocked it just for the demo or at the time the suburbs of the city weren't created yet ?

3) why they changed the name of the keys ? Do we have any informations about this change ?

4) in the trial there was still no third floor right ? there is only the door in the library..

5) with the gameshark is possible to go where the second scenario starts. If i remember right, in the final version this is not possible in the first scenario because there is a blue blue door where zombies continue to appear. Do you think that it was originally possible to go there even in the final version ?

6) Do we have english names or descriptions of the beta items that it possible to find in trial with the gameshark ? some, like the watch, are really mysterious..

7) it is likely that at this stage of the development there were still some differences in the story and the dialogues. Do we know anything about these changes ? If the cutscene with ada that ends the trial wasn't created just for the demo, leon was supposed to meet ada much earlier in game. And it is likely that were some differences in the encounters with the other characters.

8) i think that this message isn't in the final build of the game:




i don't remember any breaker in game.. a removed puzzle ?

[Harry Mason]

The trial is before beta 2 can't say if it is earlier than beta 1 since I don't have a copy to compare. The backgrounds were incomplete in beta 2 and their is no trace of new BSS files for the streets in the trial, so no basketball court yet.

The third floor was under construction in trial









Their are 65 files on Trial from 1996 (1.5 build) that I've counted..

I'm pretty sure the beta keys were just place holders just like the early backgrounds from the RPD (which may be from beta 1 or earlier but are after 1.5)

As for the breaker text I'm not sure off hand..so if no one else can confirm it I'll go play the game and check (been a while since I've played the final release )

*edit* I checked the dual shock version and the breaker text is not there...so yeah must have been part of an old puzzle.

[warren]

thanks

it is possible to find somewhere all the backgrounds of the trial ? (only those present in the trial, not the backgrounds of the beta 2 or 1.5).

also, i think that this message is a reference to some elettrical puzzle in the basement..

[Harry Mason]

Not sure what your asking, do you want the backgrounds that were used in the playable trial? Or all the backgrounds from the trial disc?

[Robert_Kendo]

can you upload the pictures and send the download link by pm,please??

[Harry Mason]

The full converted files

http://rapidshare.com/files/240824125/Bio_2_Trial_BSS_rips_in_png.zip.html

Let me know if you have a problem I normally don't use rapidshare so if I fuck up...

[warren]

it is working, thanks

[Harry Mason]

An update of info of sorts...the breaker text is mentioned in the operations report in the meeting room. The breaker was the reason the computer couldn't unlock all the doors. The solution was in the power room in the basement...

[Robert_Kendo]

thanks for uploading the pictures...they are really interesting

[Harry Mason]

thanks for uploading the pictures...they are really interesting

Oh..that RPD medical room maps in 702 are my doing just ignore those.

[pickyeater]

Hello eyeryone! I’m new here , even if it is years that I follow the resident evil beta community, especially the bioflames forum.

I hope that someday dotcal and the others will finally recover resident evil 1.5 (and re2 beta 1.. yeah, I’m dreaming, but I want to play the beta 1 as much as resident evil 1.5).

Anyway, I have some questions about resident evil 2 trial..i’m not an expert , so I need help. Thanks in advance

1)first of all, i think that the demo is a build created between re2 beta 1 and and re2 beta 2.. am i wrong ?

Sorta but more of an adtaptation of beta 1 (I call it Alpha 2) it was beta 1 I assume that most of beta 1,s content was removed for sampling purposes and the rest cannot be removed due to either cutting cost(Which I highly doubt because thay were willing to let go of 1.5 even after spending time and money on its development) or the remainder of the contant needed to be there to hold the game together.

2) in the trial you can't go in basket court. They blocked it just for the demo or at the time the suburbs of the city weren't created yet ?

I think thay wanted the outside area to last longer...

3) why they changed the name of the keys ? Do we have any informations about this change ?

No,But I have some of my own opinons on it,I think that the letters represent words P for public,L for Limited and S for Strict,in thory this would make sense in A Class system,such as the recption room would be public because people visit it for paper work ECT,and areas such as the file room and the back areas would be limited to members such as workers some office members(janiters,manitence,secretarys other non law enforcement) and areas like the intareagation room and the evidence room and strict for law enforcement only
these keys are too descrptive just to be placeholders.

4) in the trial there was still no third floor right ? there is only the door in the library..

there is,but but no door link to it,with good reason though most 3rd floor rooms dont work just the clock room.

5) with the gameshark is possible to go where the second scenario starts. If i remember right, in the final version this is not possible in the first scenario because there is a blue blue door where zombies continue to appear. Do you think that it was originally possible to go there even in the final version ?

no,do to that event you just mentioned,but in my hack I linked it in way so you can,if your curious...

6) Do we have english names or descriptions of the beta items that it possible to find in trial with the gameshark ? some, like the watch, are really mysterious..

I would really love to see all the full descriptions of all the items in the demo,but sadly no,I have heard that A magazine had them though.

7) it is likely that at this stage of the development there were still some differences in the story and the dialogues. Do we know anything about these changes ? If the cutscene with ada that ends the trial wasn't created just for the demo, leon was supposed to meet ada much earlier in game. And it is likely that were some differences in the encounters with the other characters.

you know what? your the first person to think about this demo what I think about and that is this demo was suppose to be more,I today feel Like this is my resident evil 2 the version I feel I was promised,for some reason the feeling from this game is diffrent when I play from the retail,the overall game is diffrent to me the music fit in so perfectly it felt so much like resident evil 1to me I even I dreams of playing this in its entire,this is why I embarked to create Biohazard 2 Prereleased to in attempt to satisfy myself and the others who beleive this was the resident evil 2 thay were suppose to get,I have said it before Biohazard 2 Prereleased was A attempt to turn A demo into A almost playable experence,its title comes from the fact that it was before it,s finished conterpart,thanks for understanding my feeling upon this demo and why its so speical to me.

8) i think that this message isn't in the final build of the game:




i don't remember any breaker in game.. a removed puzzle ?

due to the fact that the demo was suppose to be more,it was A switch to activte power to the card lock to the evidence room,see the ripped backgrounds to find this completely no exstent lock.

[kevstah2004]

(PSX) Biohazard 2 - Beta Version 2 [SLUS_00748] for some odd reason they gave it the same id as the US dual shock version.
(PSX) Biohazard 2 - Trial Edition [SLPS_00999]
(PSX) Resident Evil 2 - Preview [SLED_00977]
(PSX) Resident Evil 2 - Preview [SLUS_9009]
(PSX) Resident Evil 2 "10 minute demo" [SCED_00827]

You can do room warps to access any of the hidden rooms in any version just use PEC with epsxe and search for value of the current ROOM.RDT / ROOM.BSS your in and then change it to the one you want to access you don't need any of these fancy pickyeater custom rebuilds the BETA has room warp built into the select or pause menu anyway.

Ohh and about the street yes I do believe it was meant to be bigger I seem to remember playing a
demo or trial at my friends house where the opening street and bus area was completely different come to think of it I don't remember the gun shop being there either but the area's leading up the RPD where the same as the retail version.

Controller 1
Select = Debug Menu [In-game]
Hold Select = Item Selection [Inventory Screen] Use
shoulder buttons to browse items (L1 & L2 = Forwards / R1 & R2 = Backwards).

Controller 2
L1 = BGM On/Off
L2 = Pause On/Off
R1 = No Death On/Off
Circle = Weapon Mugen On/Off

Here's my room list for the BETA
ROOM100 = Start Route L
ROOM101 = Gun Shop
ROOM102 = Back Alley
ROOM103 = Police Entrance
ROOM104 = Start Route R
ROOM105 = Ground Floor Parking Lot
108 = Helicopter crash site
110 = Hall 2F
111 = Cog Room
113 = Sherry Encounter
ROOM10A = Inside Helicopter Crash Area
ROOM10B = Licker Broken Glass Skylight Room
ROOM10F = 2F Save Room
ROOM115 = STARS Room
ROOM117 = Hall 3F
ROOM118 = Path / Stairs to Bus
ROOM119 = Path to Bus
ROOM11A = Bus
ROOM11B = Path to Police Station
ROOM11C = [Beta] Helicopter Crash Site / Hunk Ending Scene???
ROOM11D = Path to Police Station A
ROOM200 = Police Station Hall
ROOM201 = Police Station Section 1
ROOM202 = WEST OFFICE [Marvin Branagh]
ROOM203 = Police Records Storage Room
ROOM204 = Walkway with window shutters & 1st Licker Encounter
ROOM205 =
ROOM206 = Meeting Room
ROOM207 =
ROOM208 = 1F Save Room [Photo Processing Lab + Secret Costume Locker]
ROOM209 = Locker Room
ROOM20A =
ROOM20B = EAST OFFICE
ROOM20C =
ROOM20D = Press Conference Room
ROOM20E = Police Questioning Room
ROOM20F =
ROOM210 = Police Sleeping Area
ROOM211 = Walkway to Arm's Storage, Morgue, Generator Room & Parking
ROOM212 = Ladder
ROOM213 = Generator Room
ROOM214 = Arm's Storage
ROOM215 = Morgue
ROOM216 = Basement Parking Lot
ROOM219 = Walkway to Cells
ROOM21A = Dog Cells
ROOM21B = Chief Brian Irons Office
ROOM300 = Cheif Irons's Dungeon
ROOM301 = Prisoner Cells [Ben Bertolucci]
ROOM304 = Sewage Network
ROOM403 = Surveillance Save Room
ROOM404 = First Annette Birkin Encounter
ROOM408 = 1F Sewage Pool Bridge
ROOM409 = 2F Sewage Pool Bridge
ROOM40A = Crocodile Sewage Area

[pickyeater]

Nice kevstah2004 here were some of the rooms on the trail in BSS format(background) thay match almost the names of the rooms RTDs

103 RPD Front
104 Back Beggining
105 RPD Back
106 Cabin
107 RPD Backpath
108 Helipad
109 Crow Hallway
10A Art Hallway
10B Art Storage Room
10C 2nd Floor Hallway
10D Cheif Hallway(Beta Stage)
10F 2nd Floor Save Room
110 2nd floor RPD Hall
111 Clock Tower(Beta Stage)
112 Libary
113 2nd Floor Zombie Hall
114 Stars Hallway
115 Stars Room
116 Outside of east office
117 3rd Floor RPD Hall(Beta Stage)
200 RPD Hall
201 Reciption Rooom
202 West Office
203 File Room
204 Licker Hallway
205 Barrcaded Hallway
206 West Press Confence Room
207 Stairway hall
208 1st Floor Save Room
209 Evidence Room
20A East Hall
20B East Office
20C Yellow Hallway
20D East Press Confrence Room
20F Hall Leading To Basement
210 Officer Breakroom
211 Basement
212 Basement Outside
213 Generator Room
214 weapons storage
215 morgue
216 Parking lot
217 Prototype Parking Lot
219 Locker Hallway
21A Kennal
21B Cheifs Office
21C Prototype Kennal v2
21D Prototype Kennal v1
300 Torchure Room
301 CellBlock
302 Police Parking Lot(Biohazard 1.5)
303 Factory Bridgepath(Biohazard 1.5)
304 Convayer Belt Room(Biohazard 1.5)
305 Factory Main Control Room(Biohazard 1.5)
306 Factory Yard(Biohazard 1.5)
307 Factory wharehouse(Biohazard 1.5)
308 Torchure Room Hallway
309 Factory Hallway(Biohazard 1.5)
30A Umbrella Office(Biohazard 1.5)
30B Wind Tunnel
30C Umbrella Lobby(Biohazard 1.5)
30D Umbrella Parking Lot(Biohazard 1.5)
30E Factory Locker Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
30F Factory Boiler Room(Biohazard 1.5)
400 Laboratory Front Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
401 Laboratory Lounge(Biohazard 1.5)
402 Elevator
403 Laboratory Main Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
404 Laboratory West Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
405 Employees Room 1 (Biohazard 1.5)
406 Employees Room 2 (Biohazard 1.5)
407 Laboratory Latter(Biohazard 1.5)
408 Laboratory East Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
409 Friged Room
40A Operation Room(Biohazard 1.5)
40B Experment Room
500 Test Room A
501 Laboratory Computer Lounge(Biohazard 1.5)
502 Laboratory Stairwell(Biohazard 1.5)
503 Monitor Room(Biohazard 1.5)
504 Spiderman Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
505 Super Computer Room(Biohazard 1.5)
506 Chemical Room(Biohazard 1.5)
507 Shelter Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
508 Test Room B
509 Test Room C
50A Hanger Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
50B Observation Vile Room(Biohazard 1.5)
50C Gate Shutter Path(Biohazard 1.5)
50D Prototype Boiler Corridor
50E Triggering System Room
50F bridge Panel Room(Biohazard 1.5)
510 Wired Hallway(Biohazard 1.5)
511 Ruined Monitor Room(Biohazard 1.5)
512 Ruined Spiderman Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
513 Test Room D
514 Ruined Hanger Corridor(Biohazard 1.5)
600 Train Room(Biohazard 1.5)
601 Train Stairbridge(Biohazard 1.5)
602 Train Fueling Room(Biohazard 1.5)
603 Train Control Compartment(Biohazard 1.5)
604 Train Main Compartment(Biohazard 1.5)
605 Train Storage Compartment(Biohazard 1.5)
606 4TH Train Compartment(Biohazard 1.5)
607 5TH Train Compartment(Biohazard 1.5)
700 Basement(Biohazard 1.5)
701 Prototype RPD Hall
702 Morgue(Biohazard 1.5)
703 Sewer Path(Biohazard 1.5)
704 Factory Trainstation(Beta Stage)
705 City Main Street(Beta Stage)
706 Laboratory West Corridor(Biohazard 1.5,Second Copy)

all named by me....

heres the gameshark code for pEC users

Main Location (For the first number)

300A49D6 000x

Sub Location(for the second)

300A49D8 00yy

Replace Main Location with first number, and sub with the 2 numbers after.

0.00 Start of Game
0.01 Kendo Gun Shop
0.02 OutSide Gun Shop
0.03 Outside RPD
0.04 Scenario 2 Beginning
0.05 Outside Cabin
0.06 Inside Cabin
0.07 Outside RPD - Back
0.08 Wrecked Helicopter
0.09 Crow Hallway
0.0A Helicopter Hall
0.0B Art Storeage Room
0.0C Statue Hallway
0.0D Art Room Hallway (untextured room)
0.0F 2F Save Room
0.10 2F HaLL
0.11 Clock Tower Room
0.12 Library
0.13 Hall Leading to Library
0.14 STARS Hallway
0.15 STARS Room
0.16 RPD Roof
1.00 1F Hall
1.01 Reception Room
1.02 Trashed Party Room
1.03 Filing Room
1.04 Licker Hallway
1.05 Borded UpHallway
1.06 Meeting Room
1.07 Under the Stairs
1.08 Photography Room
1.09 Locker Room
1.0A Vending Machine Hall
1.0B East Office
1.0C East Wing Hallway
1.0D Press Confrence Room
1.0F Yellow Hallway
1.12 Basement
1.13 Generator Room
1.14 Weapon Cache
1.15 Autopsy Room
1.19 Hallway to Cellblock
1.1A Kennel
1.1B Chief Irons Office
2.00 Torture Chamber
2.01 Cellblock

fallowing does not work......

6.00 Basement(Biohazard 1.5)
6.01 Prototype RPD Hall
6.02 Morgue(Biohazard 1.5)
6.03 Sewer Path(Biohazard 1.5)
6.04 Factory Trainstation(Beta Stage)
6.05 City Main Street(Beta Stage)
6.06 Laboratory West Corridor(Biohazard 1.5,Second Copy)

[RPD490]

You sure the bottom ones don't work?

[RPD490]

Actually how does those Location Cheats work?