Darkside Chronicles Character Discussion.

[Carnivol]

I think people need to cool down a little when it comes to these things. In general, it seems like it comes as a massive surprise and shocker to everyone that something doesn't "add up" properly. (Worst of all, it seems like people live in selective denial when it comes to these things)

It seems like the re-tellings (sans REmake) are the ones that fights the hardest uphill battles. And as far as events goes, everything will probably ALWAYS be vaguely up there and in the air, and the best you can do as far as timelines goes is to filter out the events and see what adds up and which ones does not. Then you build a branching tree out of it or something. If someone can wrap their mind around the timeline of Tales of Phantasia, then Resident Evil should be a piece of cake. Resident Evil contains a relatively sealed off and self-contained universe with no time travel involved... yet... (unless you decide to include Dino Crisis in the equation)



Anyway, at the end of the day, as far as so called "facts" go;
You don't know all the details.

[Mr_Zombie]

I've long since come to the conclusion that each game must contradict another game.

There was even one RE game that contradicted itself
(RE Zero and the "Ten years ago, Dr. Marcus was murdered by Umbrella." vs "Dr. Marcus (...) disappeared 20 years ago." case)

[Darkmoon]

I've long since come to the conclusion that each game must contradict another game. If it doesn't the world will grind to a halt on it's axis and humanity as a whole will go flying off into space to Falcon Punch the sun out.

[valentinesdead?]

Wait! What?
A consistency issue in a Resident Evil narrative!?

Preposterous!

Say it ain't so!

[Carnivol]

Wait! What?
A consistency issue in a Resident Evil narrative!?

Preposterous!

[Alexia_Ashford]

...has absolutely nothing to do with my point about the 1 year timeframe. In this, you talk about how DSC can't be correct because 2 days wouldn't be enough time. I have stated this so many times; no matter what timeline you used, no matter what assumptions were made, the date of December 25th, 1983 for Alexander's video would be incorrect. DSC is wrong.

You stated that once in an unclear post. At the start of your post you state "it" is wrong, without really clarifying what you're on about, considering all previous posts were arguing against the fact that Alexander died in 1983, then in the second half of the post, try and say again CV heavily implies it all happened in one year. It doesn't at all, that is simply your interpretation of how the files are written. There is nothing to suggest that whatsoever. My post was more aimed at the latter part of your post where you again carried on with the notion that Alexander was still alive in 1983 and that this would allow Alexia enough time to do her experiments and be asleep by Dec '83.

But you know what else is insulting? Using phrases like "End of" to get your point across.

How so? There's nothing insulting and nothing directed at you. Hardly comparable to saying someone's on smack when they type a post.

You are not the supreme God of RE; don't act like it by making heavy-handed comments like that. If you hadn't made that teensy, tiny little comment, I would have let this drop several posts ago.

You should have let it drop anyway because your argument has no substance and you're arguing for the sake of it when presented with undisputable fact. I find it brain-crunchingly frustrating when someone argues against presented fact, then complains about how the proof isn't "good enough", asking someone else to prove the point yet again with fact that is good enough (despite the first point being from a canon, official source), and even then, replies with "Well, CV still heavily implied..". No it didn't. Give me any of your points from this entire topic which aren't your assumptions, interpretations or personal opinion. As others have said before, there is no point debating opinion because opinions will always be different. Sticking your fingers in your ears and completely ignoring fact only to retort with opinion yet again is rude, considering the time spent trying to find these facts to contribute to the debate and further your knowledge of the topic at hand. I said "End of" because you keep seeming to fail to acknowledge all of these canon facts from official sources which have been repeatedly presented to you.

[DarkMemories]

My post was saying there is not enough time for all of this to be done in one year, which has been proven with facts, not basing it on assumptions.

This...

No it doesn't. If DSC is correct, it means that Alexia would have had to go in her chamber less than 2 days after she first tested on Alexander, and that's assuming she experimented on him directly after that video was made. That would probably give her a day to run some results and prepare herself for her cryostasis. There just is not enough time. It doesn't work.

...has absolutely nothing to do with my point about the 1 year timeframe. In this, you talk about how DSC can't be correct because 2 days wouldn't be enough time. I have stated this so many times; no matter what timeline you used, no matter what assumptions were made, the date of December 25th, 1983 for Alexander's video would be incorrect. DSC is wrong.

That's why I made that remark about your first paragraph in that post; it's like you didn't even read my post and jumped to a conclusion that made no sense.

But you know what else is insulting? Using phrases like "End of" to get your point across. You are not the supreme God of RE; don't act like it by making heavy-handed comments like that. If you hadn't made that teensy, tiny little comment, I would have let this drop several posts ago.

[Pikminister]

What i meant was that there are two versions of Trevor's Letters out there. The first being that he died December 7th, the other version being he died Nove 31st {which doesn't exist so it is put down as Nov 30th}

Trevor wrote his last entry in REMAKE in Nov 30th because there isn't a 31st day in november.

REmake describes Trevor's death in two instances that I can remember. One, is a file that mentions that the research team terminated George on Nov. 30th. The other, is a journal written by Lisa where she mentions her dad being already dead before December 19.

And George wrote "Nov 31st" instead of "December 1st" because he was already suffering the effects of being without food for a prolonged period of time. He mentions that in his journal. It was a mistake he made. However, we have to understand that he actually wrote that entry on Dec 1st.

[Alexia_Ashford]

I don't know what you were on when you made the first paragraph, but I never said it would work. Again, I flat-out stated DSC was wrong no matter what timeline/source was used.

News Bot, I meant the URLs, which you so generously posted. Sorry for not making that entirely clear. Also, I would be very interested in reading the English translation for that UC one.

I'd ask that you don't imply me or any other member is on drugs when they post. It is derogatory and insulting.

Also this;

but merely that CV heavily implies all of these events take place in 1 year that was most likely 1983 and never really states 1982

My post was saying there is not enough time for all of this to be done in one year, which has been proven with facts, not basing it on assumptions.

That's what I'll have to believe if Capcom doesn't fix their error.

Has anyone bothered e-mailing Capcom about this? I doubt it would do much good, though...

I moaned to Shawn from Capcom about it but he gave me the impression there's not much he can do it about it and it's Capcom Japan. News Bot made a pwnage topic on Capcom Unity, and I posted about it on the Capcom Europe forums as well.

[News Bot]

If I can recall correctly, he had two different translations of Wesker's Report on hand and decided to merge both of them for whatever reason. He had "head researcher" in the first and introduced "executive" in the second. Hence why he says "executive researcher" in that translation. I'll correct that mistake now.

I think the mistake comes from the "as a research member" line.

I've read some of the translations of Welsh before and have to say that they are very, very inaccurate at times. I didn't read the original UC timeline, so I can't say anything about that, but his interpretation of Wesker's Report is way off, to the point that it is almost just a rephrasing of the English text. The Japanese version gave an actual insight about Wesker's giving up his researcher position. And that he originally tried to become an executive at Umbrella (that's what the executive training facility's education is for, after all), not just a leading researcher.

My name is Albert Wesker.
As a research member, I aspired to become an executive at Umbrella, a pharmaceutical company who also covertly conducted biological weapons development.
But I made the decision to take a different path when I met William Birkin at the executive training facility in Raccoon City.
Because he had an advantage as a researcher.

[TheBatMan]

What i meant was that there are two versions of Trevor's Letters out there. The first being that he died December 7th, the other version being he died Nove 31st {which doesn't exist so it is put down as Nov 30th}

Trevor wrote his last entry in REMAKE in Nov 30th because there isn't a 31st day in november.

[Det. Beauregard]

Perhaps the research team just speculated that he would have died, due to him being trapped in the mansion with all the puzzles. Not a very professional research team if that is the case...

[Pikminister]

Interesting to note it labels George Trevor's death as December 1967, meaning they perhaps went with the original trevor's notes when he died december 7th rather than nov 30th

REmake mentions that the research team wrote down that he died Nov 30th. And yet Trevor himself wrote an entry in his journal after that date. So he was alive on Dec 1st.

[Det. Beauregard]

The DSC video is a shocking error on capcom's part though. Perhaps they will somehow change it for the final release or perhaps the video is some kind of elaborate hoax set up by Alfred and Alexia to cover up the experiment on Alexander and make people believe that he is still alive.

That's what I'll have to believe if Capcom doesn't fix their error.

Has anyone bothered e-mailing Capcom about this? I doubt it would do much good, though...