Favourite Resident Evil Character (No Jill drama)

[DarkMemories]

My vote went to Leon, but I'm sure you all knew that.

Let me explain first:

Now, let me start off by saying that yes, RE4 is my favorite of the RE games (well, actually, of all games period); don't discount me as an RE4 fanboy: the only entry in the entire series I don't like is Survivor. I was an RE fan before 4 even came out. That's likely a rare case.

RE2 was the first RE game I actually played and given my age at the time (like 10 at best), I didn't want to play as the "girl" so I chose Leon. He looked pretty cool (outside of his weird super large red hair in cutscenes) and I liked the story surrounding his part of the game.

So when RE4 was first announced to have Leon, imagine my surprise and delight! I actually liked the change in his personality and I didn't think it too much of a stretch to go from naive rookie cop with strong morals to a confident government agent with even firmer morals.

I know others will disagree and I respect that, but these are just my thoughts.

So yeah, Leon gets my favorite character vote.

[valentinesdead?]

My vote went to Leon, but I'm sure you all knew that.

Let me explain first:

Now, let me start off by saying that yes, RE4 is my favorite of the RE games (well, actually, of all games period); don't discount me as an RE4 fanboy: the only entry in the entire series I don't like is Survivor. I was an RE fan before 4 even came out. That's likely a rare case.

My first Resident Evil was Code Veronica--though the first game I actually saw was my cousin playthrough Claire A in Re2 on the N64. RE4 is argubly the best game in the entire series. Ignoring any story elements(in that respect, RE4 is one of the worst), the game was just freakin' amazing. One of the best games ever made, along the lines of Legend of Zelda Ocarnia of Time. That's why it sucks Shinji Mikami had nothing to do with RE5. It didn't have the uber polish to the gameplay that RE5 had.

So, to sum it up. RE4 is my favorite RE gameplay wise. Re5 is my favorite RE story-wise, and Remake would be my favorite "old school" Re title. Great graphics and atmosphere. Oh yeah!

So, you're not alone in that respect my friend.

[Vector]

And Chris. . .just say steroids and it explains anything different about Chris

Ok...allow me to actually come to Chris's defense for once.

We get it. In RE5, he was huge. He was mammoth. He was colossal. I poke fun at him all the time. His arms are thicker than most people's thighs, he has nearly no neck whatsoever, and I'd imagine it being really, REALLY difficult for him to wipe his ass while sitting on a toilet bowl...but the steroid thing is getting old. There was no valid explanation about it in files or anything, but the explanation is pretty apparent.

Like much of this series, we're left to speculate ourselves. All we really have to go on is this: Wesker kicked the shit out of him with his super-strength, so Chris began to really bulk up and take care of himself physically, in anticipation for their next encounter. He was noticeably bigger than he was in Code: Veronica in the flashback cutscene in the Spencer Estate in RE5, and then even larger in Kijuju.


I'd say Wesker was all the motivation he needed when working out and trying to bulk up. Let's see why:

1. He murdered a bunch of Chris's friends and betrayed him as his commanding officer at the Arklay Mansion, giving Chris's life a new purpose -- hunting down Wesker, Umbrella and other bioterrorists, and bioterrorism in general.

2. He toyed with Chris's sister, his own flesh and blood, and then kicked his ass all over the place in Antarctica.

3. They meet again in Russia, only prolonging their rivalry.

4. Wesker is seemingly the reason for the death of Jill Valentine, his partner and 'close friend.'

5. All along, it was Wesker behind the scenes, orchestrating and pulling strings in the field of bio-weaponry research. His research on pretty much every virus and specimen in the series forever connected he and Chris, Chris being the knight in shining armor, the truly incorruptible White Knight whose purpose in life was to do all things good and destroy all things evil.


Steroids? I don't think so. Wesker was probably the only thing on Chris's mind for a very, very long time. That's really it. Ever work out when you're angry about something? For me, it has pretty much the same effect as an energy drink or supplement of some kind. This is how I feel about Chris's massive figure in RE5.

[valentinesdead?]

Ok...allow me to actually come to Chris's defense for once.

We get it. In RE5, he was huge. He was mammoth. He was colossal. I poke fun at him all the time. His arms are thicker than most people's thighs, he has nearly no neck whatsoever, and I'd imagine it being really, REALLY difficult for him to wipe his ass while sitting on a toilet bowl...but the steroid thing is getting old. There was no valid explanation about it in files or anything, but the explanation is pretty apparent.

Like much of this series, we're left to speculate ourselves. All we really have to go on is this: Wesker kicked the shit out of him with his super-strength, so Chris began to really bulk up and take care of himself physically, in anticipation for their next encounter. He was noticeably bigger than he was in Code: Veronica in the flashback cutscene in the Spencer Estate in RE5, and then even larger in Kijuju.


I'd say Wesker was all the motivation he needed when working out and trying to bulk up. Let's see why:

1. He murdered a bunch of Chris's friends and betrayed him as his commanding officer at the Arklay Mansion, giving Chris's life a new purpose -- hunting down Wesker, Umbrella and other bioterrorists, and bioterrorism in general.

2. He toyed with Chris's sister, his own flesh and blood, and then kicked his ass all over the place in Antarctica.

3. They meet again in Russia, only prolonging their rivalry.

4. Wesker is seemingly the reason for the death of Jill Valentine, his partner and 'close friend.'

5. All along, it was Wesker behind the scenes, orchestrating and pulling strings in the field of bio-weaponry research. His research on pretty much every virus and specimen in the series forever connected he and Chris, Chris being the knight in shining armor, the truly incorruptible White Knight whose purpose in life was to do all things good and destroy all things evil.


Steroids? I don't think so. Wesker was probably the only thing on Chris's mind for a very, very long time. That's really it. Ever work out when you're angry about something? For me, it has pretty much the same effect as an energy drink or supplement of some kind. This is how I feel about Chris's massive figure in RE5.

CR29. . .I was being sarcastic.

Chris's RE5 design is by far my favorite model of him. He's buff, he just oozes badass and manliness. lol. Actually, what I don't like is how in the upcoming DSC, how skinny he looks. Even though I know he wasn't supposed to be buff, I do indeed prefer Chris Redfield buff.

I hope that clears it up. And those are some very good points by the way too.

(But yes, for those people serious about complaining about such things, it IS old)

EDIT**Ok, so maybe it didn't come across that I was being sarcastic. Sorry. My bad.

[jagger916]

Can we still make boulder-punching jokes?

[Inferno04]

I make Chris Roidfield jokes from his RE5 look all the time, but if anything about his looks actually bugs me...it's that his entire face seems different in RE5 to the others, evee REmake. Jill looked similar to her REmake version, Wesker looked very similar to his past looks...Chris I hardly recognized. Oo

[Vector]

CR29. . .I was being sarcastic.

Lol, I figured...but I just wanted to get a point across. I didn't mean to use you as an example.

Can we still make boulder-punching jokes?

http://punchtheboulder.ytmnd.com/

Go for it.

Like I said, Chris is my favorite character, but I have no problem making fun of him or degrading him in anyway. The steroid thing was getting old, that's all. I'm not a Chris fanboy. If I was, would I post something such as this?

[jagger916]

http://punchtheboulder.ytmnd.com/

Go for it.

It's...So...BEAUTIFUL

[Cuz7ate9:(]

Wesker then Claire.

[RetroRain]

I"m only going to make a breif reply

Didn't sound like it from all that bullshit I read.

You do realize this comes off as nothing more than pure grade A fanboy wanking? "OMG, Jill isn't sexually attractive to me anymore becuase of BLONDE HAIR and BAD OUTFITS! She's SO RUINED!" Please, get over it. Her hair's blonde now. So what?

Wow. I LOLed. Really. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to dislike her new appearance. I guess such a thing as an "opinion" doesn't mean anything to you.

This shot was used in the E3 2008 Alternate Trailer(though the actual screenshot is from the game--I can't get an MP4 version to take a capture from, damn WMA). In the actual shot in the trailer, the camera is zoomed in on Jill, or back then, "bird lady". I couldn't help but feel that the bottom lip and chin stuck out to me as Remake's Jill model. It seemed way too much a concidence, but I STILL didn't rule out the possiblity of it being someone else. .. until the TGS trailer, when Capcom started dropping anvils over our heads.. You might think it was "stupid", but if people were paying more attention than they probably were, they might have figured it out. Though, why should i think that when back in the day, people aruged on whether it was Chris Redfield or friggin Billy Coen in the very first Re5 teaser released in 2005, and it wasn't until 2 friggin 7000 that it had to be *confirmed* it was Chris.(All you had to do was look at Chris's remake model and you'd know it was him).

What happened to brief reply?

in RE5, she looks EXACTLY the same as her Remake and UC model, sans blonde hair and paler skin. Don't believe me?

Obviously I didn't think so, and so did many others. No one knew that the mysterious blonde character was Jill because it looked nothing like her. Everyone kept saying it was Sherry. So that throws your point right out the window.

What would you have wanted to happen? Her to have just actually been killed off in the flashback, or just be unexpectedly missing from Chris's side with NO explanation.

I already stated what I would have wanted. I would have wanted her to not be in the game at all. Sorry if you didn't get that before.

without the slightest clue what the hell they're talking about.

The irony in that statement.

Your right! You absolutely have the right to voice your opinion how "shitty" RE4 and RE5 were.

Then say no more.

Yep, it sure could. And pigs can fly too, you know. Just look at Re4 and RE5's sales figure, and you tell me whether the "old-school" RE has a snowball's chance in hot weather of coming back. ELEMENTS of the old-school RE titles may make their return in RE6(I really think so, namely horror, puzzles), but the current camera system ain't going no anywhere. Capcom would be complete idiots if they went back with the "static camera angles," because of a few fans simple whinings. And my opinion has nothing to do with the Old RE's(I love them), or New RE's(I love them too), but the simple fact the game industry has CHANGED over the last 10 years, and as I mentioned before, just look at the absolute SHITSTORM that RE5 recevied for not having a "run n gun" movemnt, which, was so ridiuclous(it's more like "walk n gun GTA4 style maybe), but with the industry brainwashed thinking every single game HAS TO control like Gears of War or Call of Duty, if a new main game was produced that had the original's "tank" controls, Resident Evil would be cruxcified on a cross by critics and ignorant gamers. That's just simply the way the industry is, for better or worse.

Capcom can still make an old-style Resident Evil game. Megaman went 3D didn't it? But they still made Megaman 9 in the old 2D 8-bit style. Your whole post was an epic fail.

[Mr_Zombie]

Obviously I didn't think so, and so did many others. No one knew that the mysterious blonde character was Jill because it looked nothing like her. Everyone kept saying it was Sherry. So that throws your point right out the window.

Because fans wanted to see what happened to Sherry after RE2 to the point that they started the entire "it's probably Sherry" with every young women that has blonde hair - Ashley, Alison and "the woman in tube" all were victims of those actions.

Why almost no one though it could be Jill? Because at that time it made no sense; Jill, now with long blonde hair, put in a tube? "Why would Capcom do such a thing? It must be Sherry! it's the only reasonable answer!"
It had nothing to do with her look. Because, you know, there were people that recognized it's Jill long before Capcom started bashing RE5 trailers with "Jill's in the game" hammer. Jill's Boob is one them.

Capcom can still make an old-style Resident Evil game. Megaman went 3D didn't it? But they still made Megaman 9 in the old 2D 8-bit style.

You know, just because it works for some games doesn't mean it would work for other games too.
As valentinesdead? has already said, RE5 received a lot of bashing for its tank controls and lack of run & gun gameplay. Controls and static camera angels were also a topic of jokes and frustration among reviewers and gamers long before RE4 was released. Many revewiers and gamers thought of RE4 as a proper evolution of the series, an evolution the series needed like hell.

Sure, releasing an old-style RE game would satisfy long time RE fans... but only them. And I doubt Capcom would be willing to make such a move.

[RetroRain]

Why almost no one though it could be Jill? Because at that time it made no sense; Jill, now with long blonde hair, put in a tube?

Which means that if Jill had looked more like Jill then people would have caught onto it. The fact that people had no idea it was Jill means that her looks did nothing to give you that impression that it was her.

You know, just because it works for some games doesn't mean it would work for other games too.
As valentinesdead? has already said, RE5 received a lot of bashing for its tank controls and lack of run & gun gameplay. Controls and static camera angels were also a topic of jokes and frustration among reviewers and gamers long before RE4 was released. Many revewiers and gamers thought of RE4 as a proper evolution of the series, an evolution the series needed like hell.

Sure, releasing an old-style RE game would satisfy long time RE fans... but only them. And I doubt Capcom would be willing to make such a move.

Fail.

They can still make an old-style Resident Evil game. These are just your opinions. They're not facts, and you have no proof to support these statements. Capcom could easily make another old-style Resident Evil game. I don't understand your logic that it just CAN'T happen. It can happen.

[Mr_Zombie]

Which means that if Jill had looked more like Jill then people would have caught onto it. The fact that people had no idea it was Jill means that her looks did nothing to give you that impression that it was her.

Sorry, but did you at least read what I wrote?
There were people who recognized Jill; there were comparison images that showed that the women has similar facial structure and eyes to REmake Jill. The only reason why lots of people didn't recognize the women as Jill (or didn't want to recognize her) was only because the thought of the women being Jill didn't even pass their mind. I mean, back then, in 2007, why would anyone thought that a blonde women in a tube would be Jill? Takeuchi's comment about "someone who was long missing" (or something like that) also didn't help and lots of people immediately jumped on the "it must be Sherry!" train.

Not to mention, let's be honest, the only reason why people recognize characters from game to game (especially when those games are made in different console's generations) is only because of few special features and because they are told it's them. REmake Jill's face looks nothing like RE3 or RE1 Jill's. RE5 Wesker (if you take his sunglasses away and blonde hair) looks nothing like the one from RE4 or CV. Claire has completely different face in Darkside Chronicles, Degeneration and REC:V.
RE5 Jill is similar to the one from REmake - her face structure might be slightly different, especially her nose is bigger, but her eyes that were so distinctive in REmake looks the same in RE5. It's the new hairstyle (longer blonde hair) that throw people away from thinking it's Jill.

These are just your opinions. They're not facts, and you have no proof to support these statements.

Uhm... Go and read reviews of RE5 and RE4 (as well as reviews of old RE games) and opinions from gamers on message boards and then tell me I have "no proof to support these statements".
Hell, few days ago valentinesdead? even put an old spoof from X-Play about "Bad Camera Angels" where they made fun of Resident Evil's static camera system and how frustrating it was.

I'm not telling that Capcom can't make an old-style RE game - of course they can. What I'm telling that right now those games wouldn't sell as well as RE4 or RE5 (the only game from the series that sold better than those two was RE2 and that was 11 years ago).

[RetroRain]

Sorry, but did you at least read what I wrote?
There were people who recognized Jill

Yes, I did read what you wrote. I was talking about the majority who didn't know it was Jill.

Uhm... Go and read reviews of RE5 and RE4 (as well as reviews of old RE games) and opinions from gamers on message boards and then tell me I have "no proof to support these statements".

LOL. I wasn't questioning this. I believe you. When I said "no proof to support these statements," I was talking about valentinesdead? and your opinion statements that an old-style Resident Evil game can't happen.

[Det. Beauregard]

I honestly don't see Capcom making another old-style RE game, as much as most of us want it. Since they've had a taste of how much the RE4/RE5 style sells (far more units than the originals), why would they go back? If they did make an old-style game, they wouldn't nearly put as much manpower and hours into it as they would a game with the style of RE4/RE5.

While I know absolutely nothing about the technical side of game development, I'm assuming that rail shooters are extremely easy to make, since it's basically one big interactive scene and the characters move on a set path the entire time. And by "easy to make," I mean when compared to a game like the old-style RE's or RE4/RE5.