Darkside Chronicles Official Thread

[Mr_Zombie]

Holy Jesus F**k!!!! Wow, what a twist... Goodbye RE5 canon. Does it say T-virus or variation of it?

RE5 is still more canon than DSC (going just through this thread one can see how many things they've screwed up storyline wise in DSC), but it's really shocking that one game contradicts another that was released not even a year ago. It's like they don't even know that RE5 exists and "retconned" the whole Wesker virus storyline.

[BahamutRetsu]

Just the plain ol' T-Virus.

Hmm... I wonder what Japanese version files will say. Cuz in RE Zero, Leech Growth Record says Marcus injected leeches with T-virus in US version and Progenitor in Japanese. So it's not the first time we get serious translation errors... Now maybe in RE5 Japanese version it says Wesker injected himself with T-virus and not Progenitor? Although that syringe says PG. Great work Capcom, on answering the questions.

[Archelon]

RE5 is still more canon than DSC (going just through this thread one can see how many things they've screwed up storyline wise in DSC), but it's really shocking that one game contradicts another that was released not even a year ago. It's like they don't even know that RE5 exists and "retconned" the whole Wesker virus storyline.

Not to mention Masachika Kawata was a producer on both games.

A gaffe from the end of Krauser's sub-scanerio:

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Wesker's eyes are normal, blue eyes.

[BahamutRetsu]

RE5 is still more canon than DSC (going just through this thread one can see how many things they've screwed up storyline wise in DSC), but it's really shocking that one game contradicts another that was released not even a year ago. It's like they don't even know that RE5 exists and "retconned" the whole Wesker virus storyline.

Well yeah, I'd rather trust RE5 but until we read Japanese files from both RE5 and DSC we can only speculate. I have no idea how much translation mistakes they did in both games.

[Wesker_101]

Has there (Aside from WR1 or his RE5 file) ever been any other source verifying what the hell Wesker injected? We know that it can't simply be a T-virus.

[Archelon]

Has there (Aside from WR1 or his RE5 file) ever been any other source verifying what the hell Wesker injected? We know that it can't simply be a T-virus.

The note from Birkin in UC mentions that it was from a "mutation stock," or something along those lines, but that could have simply been Birkin trying to get Wesker to take the virus.

[BahamutRetsu]

The note from Birkin in UC mentions that it was from a "mutation stock," or something along those lines, but that could have simply been Birkin trying to get Wesker to take the virus.

Yes this is most likely. And this mutation stock can be ANYTHING. T-virus variant, Progenitor virus variant. even G variant(highly unlikely) lol

As for Krausers sub-scenario... So he doeas appear in this scenario?

[Wesker_101]

The note from Birkin in UC mentions that it was from a "mutation stock," or something along those lines, but that could have simply been Birkin trying to get Wesker to take the virus.

Okay, thanks. I forgot about that.

Another Q: Did Wesker have to be killed for this to activate? Or was it slowly going to put his body in a "temporary state of death" like the WR1 mentions?

And was the spike thing that hit Krauser's arm just a weapon of some sort? Or was it apart of the monster? If it's the latter, then I suppose that would explain his arm mutating. What it doesn't explain is the Superhuman powers on-top of it.

[News Bot]

The official site for Umbrella Chronicles also said T-virus. Its completely incorrect though, don't worry about it. Just a really stupid error. He was infected with an experimental Progenitor variant designed specifically by Spencer for the Wesker Children. The T-virus doesn't have the "fucker with superhuman strength" ability. "Mutation stock" is just what Birkin was told.

Also, Wesker's eyes are normal in Umbrella Chronicles too. They only go red from time to time. RE5 shows that his eyes get more red as he gets more angry (lol).

[BahamutRetsu]

Okay, thanks. I forgot about that.

Another Q: Did Wesker have to be killed for this to activate? Or was it slowly going to put his body in a "temporary state of death" like the WR1 mentions?

And was the spike thing that hit Krauser's arm just a weapon of some sort? Or was it apart of the monster? If it's the latter, then I suppose that would explain his arm mutating. What it doesn't explain is the Superhuman powers on-top of it.

He had to be killed or at least severly wounded for it to work. If that file tells truth this virus was made to revive dead organisms or as it says "to conquer death". So it would work only on dead or fatally wounded. Like almost all viruses in RE they get more "agressive" and regenerative after the host was wounded. I think it would've worked even if Wesker didn't get himself wounded/killed, but at MUCH slower rate and possibly different outcome.

If you count RE5 though, it's pretty clear Birkin's file is a lie. As a variant of Progenitor it would work even on healthy living humans if compatible.

[Archelon]

Any word on Krauser's sub-scenario? Do we know what his thoughts and motivations are, or his arm?

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Krauser was apparently jealous of Leon's special treatment just because he had faced BOW's in the past. Leon got his orders directly from the president, and Krauser was apparently just sent in as support for Leon. Understandably, Krauser felt like he was just brushed aside, despite the fact that he had far more experience than Leon in the field, plus his celebrated military career.

Initially, he just wants to prove to the government that he's not just some tool they can cast aside whenever they want. As you play through the scenario though, he begins to grow an appreciation for the capabilities of T and T-Veronica viruses, thinking he might be able to use them to become stronger and show everyone just what he's capable of. At this point I think it's more just random musing than genuine consideration.

It's not until he sees what Manuela can do as a result of her infection with the T-Veronica Virus, and Javier's eventual merging with the Veronica Plant, that Krauser decides he wants to use the viruses himself. As we know already, his arm is impaled by one of the stingers fired by the first boss from Operation: Javier (you fight it a second time, and this is when Krauser is injured).

There's no indication that he is actually infected with anything (and if he was, he would be infected with the T-Virus, not the T-Veronica, because the monster was created using only the T-Virus), but the injury is apparently bad enough that Krauser fears he'll be discharged from the military as a result and never able to fight again, which, according to his profile, is all he ever really felt at home doing (Solid Snake, anyone?). He comes to resent Leon's determination to destroy the remaining viruses, believing Leon is doing it out of fear rather than the belief that it's the right thing to do.

Krauser, instead, comes to see infection by the viruses as a blessing rather than a curse, because of the incredible power that can be gained from them. Having heard about him from Leon, Krauser resolves to track down Wesker and see if he can give Krauser the power he is now seeking.

In a nice little nod to their conversation during the knife fight in RE4, Krauser refers to Leon and himself as "two sides of the same coin," with Leon wanting to destroy the viruses to save the world, and Krauser wanting to instead utilize them for the same end.

[News Bot]

As a variant of Progenitor it would work even on healthy living humans if compatible.

Not really. Its explicitly stated that the virus was designed to be even more selective, so as to weed out the best of the Wesker Children.

[BahamutRetsu]

The official site for Umbrella Chronicles also said T-virus. Its completely incorrect though, don't worry about it. Just a really stupid error. He was infected with an experimental Progenitor variant designed specifically by Spencer for the Wesker Children. The T-virus doesn't have the "fucker with superhuman strength" ability. "Mutation stock" is just what Birkin was told.

Also, Wesker's eyes are normal in Umbrella Chronicles too. They only go red from time to time. RE5 shows that his eyes get more red as he gets more angry (lol).

Normal T-virus does not, but a variant possibly could have "fucker with sup, strength" ability. Although here I'm inclined to believe RE5. It is the Progenitor virus variant, and not T-virus. As News Bot said it's a really rough mistake.

[Stu]

Spoiler:

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Krauser was apparently jealous of Leon's special treatment just because he had faced BOW's in the past. Leon got his orders directly from the president, and Krauser was apparently just sent in as support for Leon. Understandably, Krauser felt like he was just brushed aside, despite the fact that he had far more experience than Leon in the field, plus his celebrated military career.

Initially, he just wants to prove to the government that he's not just some tool they can cast aside whenever they want. As you play through the scenario though, he begins to grow an appreciation for the capabilities of T and T-Veronica viruses, thinking he might be able to use them to become stronger and show everyone just what he's capable of. At this point I think it's more just random musing than genuine consideration.

It's not until he sees what Manuela can do as a result of her infection with the T-Veronica Virus, and Javier's eventual merging with the Veronica Plant, that Krauser decides he wants to use the viruses himself. As we know already, his arm is impaled by one of the stingers fired by the first boss from Operation: Javier (you fight it a second time, and this is when Krauser is injured).

There's no indication that he is actually infected with anything (and if he was, he would be infected with the T-Virus, not the T-Veronica, because the monster was created using only the T-Virus), but the injury is apparently bad enough that Krauser fears he'll be discharged from the military as a result and never able to fight again, which, according to his profile, is all he ever really felt at home doing (Solid Snake, anyone?). He comes to resent Leon's determination to destroy the remaining viruses, believing Leon is doing it out of fear rather than the belief that it's the right thing to do.

Krauser, instead, comes to see infection by the viruses as a blessing rather than a curse, because of the incredible power that can be gained from them. Having heard about him from Leon, Krauser resolves to track down Wesker and see if he can give Krauser the power he is now seeking.

In a nice little nod to their conversation during the knife fight in RE4, Krauser refers to Leon and himself as "two sides of the same coin," with Leon wanting to destroy the viruses to save the world, and Krauser wanting to instead utilize them for the same end.

Does the game at least show the helicopter crash?

[News Bot]

Keep the stuff coming Archelon!

Nice to at least have some sort of fucking backstory and motivation for Krauser.