Darkside Chronicles Official Thread

[Becky's Butt]

Krauser's arm transforms in the same as Las Plagas mutants,

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

he's in the employ of a man who sticks Plagas in everyone who worked for him to make sure they remained loyal and

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Where as I understand the monster that wounds his arm is either a T-Virus creation (in which case Krauser's being infected would result in his death and reanimation, not a mutant killer arm

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

he can control) or the T-Veronica virus (which, if he was able to control it, would reult in him spurting fire. After being in Cryostasis for the next decade and a half and travelling back in time to annoy Leon)

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

and really doesn't support the idea that it's anything other than Plagas.

So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.

And Ada knowing about his arm is hardly shocking. Krasuer reports implant of Plagas to Wesker. Wesker tells Ada for whatever reason, ranging from earning her trust, playing his employees off against each other or because he felt Krauser was possibly under Saddler's control.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

[Kaneco]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?



Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.




Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.



Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?



So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.




Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

Good observation...but I guess it will be left a mystery until the Darkside
report comes out (I hope something useful comes out of that).

[News Bot]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

T-Veronica has very distinct traits, Krauser exhibits none of them. The T-virus also possesses none of Krauser's traits. The main distinction between the viruses and Las Plagas is that the viruses "kill" the host, who then has no control. The only exception being T-Veronica, but that requires a 15 year cryogenic stasis/organ transplant session. And with the latter, the host doesn't possess any abnormal superhuman traits. Manuela, at most, had a visibly infected arm and flammable blood from said arm, but nothing else. Krauser on the other hand has superhuman abilities and a mutated arm, and has complete control. These are Las Plagas traits.

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Krauser had access to the island's lab facilities anyway. He could easily have a Plaga variant engineered for him. He wouldn't need Saddler's consent in the matter.

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

Aside from Hilda and the Tyrants, yeah it does. And whats more, it affects the entire body.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

You're taking Ada's line out of context. She doesn't specifically say that she has seen his arm, only that she knows there's something about it and she can deal with it if necessary. She is talking about his general combat style. Again, try not relying too much on the localized English script for your evidence. It will get you no where and it is incredibly likely that what you use as evidence will actually be something else entirely.

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

No.

[Darkmoon]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

Well, I could be wrong, I must admit...but one, no other infection allowed a controlled mutation with the exception of Veronica which, again, requires a long time period in cryo before it's usuable. I also seem to remember that Krasuer and his arm leaked that odd greenish fluid, where as other mutants just leak blood, but I could be wrong.

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Well, he certainly trusted Leon and Ashley. He didn't intend to use the Plagas to force Leon to become his personal bodyguard nor have Ashley infect her father.

...yeah. It makes a lot more sense that Krasuer was somehow under his control. This doesn't mean he couldn't have more free will than those two, of course, since he would likely have needed it for his missions, but it's possible that he could still control Krasuer directly. That doesn't mean he trusted him...if had to control him directly than Krasuer could still betray him when out of his sight, such as communicating with Wesker.

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

No, but the effects are zombiehood followed by Crimsonheadness and possibly Lickerdom or zombiehood or Lickerness. Or to become a Tyrant. There's no suggestion of anything like a controlled mutation except with Tyrants. We haven't seen any sign of an exception to mutation.

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

I have no idea. Haven't played it yet.

So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.

Or, as has been suggested, the injury is a way that Krasuer gets recruited by Wesker. Or his way into the Las Plagas cult...give me back the use of my arm and I'll do whatever you want.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.[/QUOTE]

Or Wesker was somehow (I have no idea how he could obeserve his minion, what with the satelite he uses to watch Ada and all) and uses that information, along with Krasuer's probably reports to him and his knowledge of his fighting style and skills before to formulate some information...)

And given his loyalty to Wesker it's really not hard to imagine him sending reports and information back to Wesker to show him that Plagas was worth his time.

[TheBatMan]

Nope, the developers just fucked up big time. For one thing, they kept Alfred's Diary, which lists his death as March 1982.

Since 1983 doesn't really make any sense, I'm inclined to stick with 1982. Since Alexia went into stasis on December 27th 1983, having her infect Alexander only the day before and to conduct all the research necessary (not to mention creating a specialised serum to combat Nosferatu's poison) etcetc is pretty dumb.

Sorry to bump this but i've just been flicking through the Code Veronica kaitaishinsho and the timeline on page 220 clearly states that Alexander was injected with T-Veronica in 1983.

The video must have been recorded in Dec 1982.

[News Bot]

I noticed that the other day as well. Essentially, both Darkside Chronicles and Code: Veronica are wrong.

[ahFishnChips]

this gamw wuz shit, liek all rez games. the hill's the 1 2 play!

[Canas Renvall]

Rule 14 of the internet, people. That's all I gotta say.

As for both DSC and CVX being wrong... Wow. That's not good.

[Ray]

Just wondering, are any new elements from DSC-RE2 or DSC-RE/CVx going to be implemented into canon? Because I thought that the explanation on the linear launcher from DSC-RE/CVx was actually done really well (other than the f-d up date on Alexander's video).

Oh, and ahFishnChips, I don't think you should state your opinion in such a troll-like way. But then again, it IS in a troll-like way.

[News Bot]

Just wondering, are any new elements from DSC-RE2 or DSC-RE/CVx going to be implemented into canon? Because I thought that the explanation on the linear launcher from DSC-RE/CVx was actually done really well (other than the f-d up date on Alexander's video).

I'm pretty sure the Kaitaishinsho guide already mentioned the linear launcher being developed by Alexander.

A lot of what we call "new" now is actually from 1999.

[Ray]

^ Thanks for the info, News Bot! Now to get my hands on those Kaitaishinsho guides... sorry for asking, but what are Kaitaishinsho guides?

[Kei_M]

Just wondering, are any new elements from DSC-RE2 or DSC-RE/CVx going to be implemented into canon? Because I thought that the explanation on the linear launcher from DSC-RE/CVx was actually done really well (other than the f-d up date on Alexander's video).

Oh, and ahFishnChips, I don't think you should state your opinion in such a troll-like way. But then again, it IS in a troll-like way.

It's hard to tell what has been added to canon until it's referred to again in games or like...official guide books.

Makes me wonder if we get a RE2 remake, how much would change to match DSC's RE2....

ALSO. I just heard Lisa Jai(Yamanaka)'s demo reel, her voice didn't change THAT much she could have totally reprised the role of Sherry...though admittedly, Laura Bailey was amazing.

[Becky's Butt]

Well, he certainly trusted Leon and Ashley. He didn't intend to use the Plagas to force Leon to become his personal bodyguard nor have Ashley infect her father.

...yeah. It makes a lot more sense that Krasuer was somehow under his control. This doesn't mean he couldn't have more free will than those two, of course, since he would likely have needed it for his missions, but it's possible that he could still control Krasuer directly. That doesn't mean he trusted him...if had to control him directly than Krasuer could still betray him when out of his sight, such as communicating with Wesker.

Except he said he didn't know how to get rid of Krauser.
Sorry but if I can control a guy at will, I know how to get rid of him.

Or, as has been suggested, the injury is a way that Krasuer gets recruited by Wesker. Or his way into the Las Plagas cult...give me back the use of my arm and I'll do whatever you want.

I'm sorry but nothing makes sense in your theory. At least as far as I can see.

Two years before RE4, Krauser comes to admire and want the power of Umbrella's viruses. To get this, he seeks out Wesker.
...only he NEVER gets what he wants. Two years and he never got the strength he was looking for in teh first place.

So RE4 comes along. Krauser, who is fanatically loyal to Wesker, decides to let a parasite in his body tha twill give the guy he's trying to sabotage control over his mind.

His desire for the power of Umbrella's viruses, his loyalty to Wesker, all is rendered null and void in your theory.

[News Bot]

Krauser's arm was fucked up and he grew to admire the power of Umbrella's viruses. So he went looking for Wesker to get this power.
Only he NEVER got it. Two years and he never got what he so desperately wanted.

That is, he doesn't get it until he defies his fanatical loyalties to Wesker in exchange for Las Plagas which he knows will give the guy he's trying to sabotage full control over his mind.

Do yous see why NONE of this makes sense?

Krauser's arm wasn't seriously injured and rendered un-usable or whatever. He was kicked out because Special Forces like SOCOM tend to kick out their operatives for so much as a case of ticks.

It makes perfect sense, you're just reading into it too deep.

Except he said he didn't know how to get rid of Krauser.

Oh not this shit again. You took what Saddler said the wrong way. Saddler has a fucking army and a tentacle penis. He knew exactly how he could get rid of Krauser, but was contemplating "how" because he:

1) Never gave a shit
2) Couldn't decide whether to sik his army on Saddler or penetrate him with his penis or whatever other crazy methods

[Darkmoon]

Except he said he didn't know how to get rid of Krauser.
Sorry but if I can control a guy at will, I know how to get rid of him.

Well, technically speaking he said, "To tell you the truth, I was contemplating how to get rid of him. But thanks to you, that's no longer necessary." Which doesn't really suggest he was concerned with how to get rid of him. It seems more like he's considering options. And he'd still want rid of Krauser because he hates America. Even if he has control over Krauser, we don't know how much, and Krasuer may have enough free will to ignore orders to go jump in the spike pit. On the other hand, I suppose it's possible for the paranoid and delusional person to give someone he doesn't trust but absolutely needs additional strength, speed and skill without adding a layer of control...even though he can.

I mean, Saddler wasn't the brigtest tool in the shed, but we know now that he Krauser had Las Plagas thanks to News Bot's translation. I find it unlikely he'd give Krauser a complete and free reign.

I'm sorry but nothing makes sense in your theory. At least as far as I can see.

Two years before RE4, Krauser comes to admire and want the power of Umbrella's viruses. To get this, he seeks out Wesker.
...only he NEVER gets what he wants. Two years and he never got the strength he was looking for in teh first place.

So RE4 comes along. Krauser, who is fanatically loyal to Wesker, decides to let a parasite in his body tha twill give the guy he's trying to sabotage control over his mind.

His desire for the power of Umbrella's viruses, his loyalty to Wesker, all is rendered null and void in your theory.

No. He goes two years working for Wesker on the promise of getting his arm fully repaired, doing whatever work he wants. Finally, probably six or so months before the start of RE4 (I somehow doubt Krauser has been there a week or two) Wesker give's him a mission - Go and find out about Plagas. Join the cult and find out. They're looking for someone with Krauser's special skills and he has the perfect in, an old soldier who wants his damaged arm restored. Las Plagas can make it happen. That will give the cult a reason to believe Krauser. That will repay Krasuer. And it will give Wesker what he wants. Sure, Krauser may get killed, but sometimes you loose pawns to get another piece into position...