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  • Originally posted by News Bot View Post
    I noticed that the other day as well. Essentially, both Darkside Chronicles and Code: Veronica are wrong.
    The thought of the supplemental material being wrong never seems to strike anyone, does it?

    Even after I spent 5 precious minutes of my time earlier this year (September, iirc) doing all the necessary research for making a quick writeup to show how the games make perfect sense on everything regarding the Ashfords, with various supplemental material kuking up things by simply and blindly taking things so literal that they assume shit in Code: Veronica happens EXACTLY (on the hour) 15 years post-events (while at the same time adding some typos! Love typos!). There is no reason to entertain the idea of the games being wrong for even for a minute, unless there's reason to believe the Butler's Letter was written in 1997 and not late '98, pre-CV events.

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    • Originally posted by Carnivol View Post
      The thought of the supplemental material being wrong never seems to strike anyone, does it?
      It could be anything really as the only evidence regarded with Alexander's death and other typos are open up in the air, considering Code Veronica and Dark Side Chronicles are wrong, and then the time line in Resident Evil 5 says otherwise, it's definitely a brain fuck. My opinion on this is to subject your own feeling regarding the issue and think what is best to how it's correct. My opinion is that in the story that his death could of been misleading during his work with the Veronica project, and that Alfred and Alexia, or perhaps another, set up his "death" so no one would notice, even with the information from the games having several facts that contradict/recon each other. It's always fun to go with your own ideas and theories for a game because it makes it much more fun!

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      • Originally posted by Carnivol View Post
        The thought of the supplemental material being wrong never seems to strike anyone, does it?

        Even after I spent 5 precious minutes of my time earlier this year (September, iirc) doing all the necessary research for making a quick writeup to show how the games make perfect sense on everything regarding the Ashfords, with various supplemental material kuking up things by simply and blindly taking things so literal that they assume shit in Code: Veronica happens EXACTLY (on the hour) 15 years post-events (while at the same time adding some typos! Love typos!). There is no reason to entertain the idea of the games being wrong for even for a minute, unless there's reason to believe the Butler's Letter was written in 1997 and not late '98, pre-CV events.
        The localized English versions of the games are the ones which are wrong most of the time, while the Japanese versions and additional Japanese supplemental material, due to being licensed and written by the developers directly, contain little to no mistakes.

        And yes, CV does take place exactly 15 years after Alexia goes into hibernation. Wesker attacks Rockfort Island because he KNOWS this and thats where he thought she was reawakening.
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        • By comparing a few things, the deal still seems to be;

          Code: Veronica - Perfectly correct on the timeline of the events (unless there is any perfectly good and backup reason to believe the Butler's Letter is written almost a year in advance of the events of CV)

          Supplemental material - Incorrectly assuming and making up shit to fill in the gaps.

          Resident Evil 5 - History of Resident Evil lifting material from some old timeline (which amongst others was used on Umbrella Chronicles' Japanese site), but with the most glaring mistakes conveniently edited out (such as the part about a 12 year old Alfred becoming head of family in April 1982... woops... so much for supplemental material)

          Darkside Chronicles - Setting things straight again, ignoring the cock ups in the supplemental material and the History of Resident Evil timeline.


          Also, based on some of the translations you've presented in the past, the origin of some of them (according to certain people) and through some quick comparing, you don't seem to've done a very thorough job as far as comparing Japanese to English goes... more like just hiding behind the Japanese as not many are capable of actually verifying your statements if you say "it's from the Japanese"

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          • Supplemental material - Incorrectly assuming and making up shit to fill in the gaps.
            How about no. Unless you think developers are... making up shit... for their own game...

            PS. The History of Resident Evil timeline (as well as every other timeline found in every other piece of material such as the one used in Zero material and Umbrella Chronicles) is based on the timeline found in the CODE: Veronica Kaitaishinsho guide. Pg 219 and 220. That was the first full timeline Capcom published, and is the most correct even after all these years.

            Also, it is not completely unknown for Capcom to fuck up the dates in the English versions of their games. Which they have done twice now with both CODE: Veronica and Darkside Chronicles, not to mention Zero having its fair few mistakes. Notice how they still use March 1982 as the date for Alexander's death in the Archives section yet use post- December 25th 1983 on the video he appears? Nothing short of retardation, and both are still completely wrong.

            Since the Kaitaishinsho timeline makes the most sense, I'm inclined to go with it.

            EDIT: I wonder if supplemental material raped your family or something. What's your vendetta with it? Do you consider Dot50Cal's translation of Biohazard 4 Incubate to be complete tripeling bullshit as well? You can't pick and choose.
            Last edited by News Bot; 12-28-2009, 12:29 PM.
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            • Mind posting that timeline? (Scanz pl0x) Since it's supposedly gonna blow my mind or something. Not some (Colvin?) translation of the Umbrella Chronicles version, but the "Kaitaishinsho" version. Transcript is fine too, assuming it's not been tampered with.

              Also, I see no mention of the dates you're talking about in the files you're telling me to look at, so please do link me to those too. Of course a few omissions might've happened between English and Japanese text - A quick sample of that would be the Researcher's Will in Resident Evil 1, but seeing as you've already concluded your research, I guess you already didn't know that.

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              • Mind posting that timeline? (Scanz pl0x) Since it's supposedly gonna blow my mind or something. Not some (Colvin?) translation of the Umbrella Chronicles version, but the "Kaitaishinsho" version. Transcript is fine too, assuming it's not been tampered with.
                Accusing us of tampering with source material? Thats a new low. I think you can go fuck yourself for all intents and purposes.
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                • Seeing as you so fondly speak up about how you fix things where you believe Capcom is wrong and supposedly retroactively correct them on things, I'm merely just pointing out the fact that I'd prefer to have a clean one without any of your wizardry or translation magic applied to it.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnivol View Post
                    Seeing as you so fondly speak up about how you fix things where you believe Capcom is wrong and supposedly retroactively correct them on things, I'm merely just pointing out the fact that I'd prefer to have a clean one without any of your wizardry or translation magic applied to it.
                    Buy them yourself then.
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                    • Originally posted by Darkmoon
                      but we know now that he Krauser had Las Plagas thanks to News Bot's translation.
                      Well you see, why didn't you just say that from the start? If there's something concrete saying he has it then fine, he has it.


                      I have NB on Ignore so where does he get the evidence for Krauser having Las Plagas? Also has anyone confirmed this translation's accuracy?
                      Last edited by Becky's Butt; 12-28-2009, 01:51 PM.

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                      • I know of Iambubbaq who did the translation. He is genuine.
                        "I've got 100 cows."
                        "Well I've got 104 friends."

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                        • Yeah, he handles a lot of Biohaze's translations, and is responsible for their translation of Angela's Diary.
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                          • Thanks to some nice gentleman over at youtube i'm seeing the entire game, half way through the RE2 scenario, maybe it's just me but the overall 'quality' of voice work suddenly increased noticeably from the Javier scenario to the RE2 scenario. A lot less awkward pauses and more believable delivery.
                            Last edited by A-J; 01-16-2010, 10:07 AM.

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                            • Short Japanese DSC commercial, featuring Kiyoharu and his LAW'S song.
                              Biohazard Darkside Chronicles, Japanese commercial, featuring LAWS by Kiyoharu.

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                              • Alright. I have to ask.

                                Does anyone know what the lyrics of Alexia's battle theme are? Are they just the lyrics of Berceuse translated into another language?

                                I am seriously curious.

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