RE4 Tells A Better Story than RE5

[GEORGE TREVOR]

SHAME, as is often the case, the reality is not a patch on the dream, but an important find nonetheless, that dispels the earlier fake with the greater creativity. I would have much prefered Hookman version, as I did not like the story line involving the daughter of an American President (this isnt James Bond!), and actualy perfered the story line of RE5 which was far more loyal to Biohazard. The one part of RE5 that I found decidedly ridiculous was the Wesker=a clone scenario, which was laughable at best.

[Mr. Rod]

SHAME, as is often the case, the reality is not a patch on the dream, but an important find nonetheless, that dispels the earlier fake with the greater creativity. I would have much prefered Hookman version, as I did not like the story line involving the daughter of an American President (this isnt James Bond!), and actualy perfered the story line of RE5 which was far more loyal to Biohazard. The one part of RE5 that I found decidedly ridiculous was the Wesker=a clone scenario, which was laughable at best.

Err, Wesker's NOT a clone. He was recruited at early age by Umbrella to be part of the Wesker Children Project.

[ValentineLover]

Err, Wesker's NOT a clone. He was recruited at early age by Umbrella to be part of the Wesker Children Project.

I wonder why everyone misinterpret the line "I was manfactured"?

[Darinl1979]

I am noticing a trend here.

Game gets announced.
You all hype it up, talk about how epic it will be and how it will be so much better than <most recent Resident Evil game>.
Game comes out.
You all play it, enjoy it for the first playthrough.
Week later you bitch about how bad it was because it didnt include <insert random fanboy plot device or character>

5 was alot better than 4, you just in your mind feel that 4 was better because it was first to do that gamestyle. Plot of 5 was alot better than 4, thats not just my opinion but a damn fact. Plot of alot of Resident Evil games isn't that great to begin with, and I dont care if you want to throw arguements like "RAEL PLOT KOMES FROM THE FILES U REED IN GAME..DUH". Even with those, the plot is still pretty weak.

Stop bitching about how small things that dont matter ruined 5. Nobody cares that Sherry wasn't in the game. Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead.

[Darkmoon]

Sadly, no. You don't care that Wesker is dead. I don't care. I think it's a good thing, actually. But others disagree. Quite a few others.

I'd also disagree that RE5 is more fun to play than RE4. The forced co-op killed it for me. I like co-op on occasion, but I don't want to have to play that way, and I found Sheva's AI too stupid to try playing by myself. Bar the co-op elements the game plays identically to 4, really, so for me 4 is the better playing game.

I'll agree that 5's story was better, but that's not so much an indication of how good 5's story was as how terrible 4's was. 5 was really typical RE standard...un-shocking shocking revelations, predicatable plot twists and a few new plotholes to add to the tangled fabric. The characters were more believeable, though, and the voice acting did top 4's...although both had good voice acting. Just a slightly iffy script.

[Revultraknight]

I am noticing a trend here.

Game gets announced.
You all hype it up, talk about how epic it will be and how it will be so much better than <most recent Resident Evil game>.
Game comes out.
You all play it, enjoy it for the first playthrough.
Week later you bitch about how bad it was because it didnt include <insert random fanboy plot device or character>

5 was alot better than 4, you just in your mind feel that 4 was better because it was first to do that gamestyle. Plot of 5 was alot better than 4, thats not just my opinion but a damn fact. Plot of alot of Resident Evil games isn't that great to begin with, and I dont care if you want to throw arguements like "RAEL PLOT KOMES FROM THE FILES U REED IN GAME..DUH". Even with those, the plot is still pretty weak.

Stop bitching about how small things that dont matter ruined 5. Nobody cares that Sherry wasn't in the game. Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead.

Way the go Darin! RE5 IS better in terms of story than RE4! RE5 has a more complex story with much much more explanations specially within the files than RE4 ever gave! But of course it still not perfect! But hey nothing is, not even RE4 is!

As for RE4 do we even now anything more concret about Saddler? NO, but we did get to know alot more about Spencer in RE5 and WHERE he found out the info to track the virus in the first place(Excella's ancestor's books) and that is major important! And with Alternate Edition we can expect truly more complex Storytelling and far more explanations. But still there will always be some kind of plothole, every game has. But if not major holes no biggy a game can still be great!

Heck IF they never mentioned Leon and the RE4 occurences in RE5, the RE5 GAME could still be logical by simply explaning it was lab made parasites done by Tricell and the data Wesker possessed and that would be it.

Even Capcom said that RE4 WAS/IS a side story! But still they acknwoledged the game's events in RE5 which is always a great form to link the saga's stories.

RE4 can have a more interesting mecanics and be the first to innovate but STORYWISE RE5 is better!IMO

Maybe it's time to start a thread RE5 Better story than RE4 lol

[Bianca]

Stop bitching about how small things that dont matter ruined 5. Nobody cares that Sherry wasn't in the game. Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead.

Either denial has gotten the best of you, or you live in blissful ignorance, because you apparently missed the incredible amount of rage that took place in this fandom only a few short months ago, especially in terms of Jill's involvement.

Anyway, I'm not going to debate something so trivial, but it'd be nice if you refrained from wording your opinions as fact.

[Revultraknight]

Either denial has gotten the best of you, or you live in blissful ignorance, because you apparently missed the incredible amount of rage that took place in this fandom only a few short months ago, especially in terms of Jill's involvement.

Anyway, I'm not going to debate something so trivial, but it'd be nice if you refrained from wording your opinions as fact.

At least it is really a fact that we have much more background ( their profiles are great to read) on the RE5 characters, even the new ones such as Excella and Sheva, than those of RE4 which is a good plus for 5.

[Bianca]

At least it is really a fact that we have much more background ( their profiles are great to read) on the RE5 characters, even the new ones such as Excella and Sheva, than those of RE4 which is a good plus for 5.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

I couldn't care less about the "RE4 vs. RE5" debate that is going on in this thread. I was simply replying to Darinl1979's implication that, "Nobody cares that Sherry wasn't in the game. Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead."

[Revultraknight]

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

I couldn't care less about the "RE4 vs. RE5" debate that is going on in this thread. I was simply replying to Darinl1979's implication that, "Nobody cares that Sherry wasn't in the game. Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead."

No problem. I was only using the reference of the word facts to bring up certain things that are facts in the RE4 vs RE5 debate in terms of background characters info which they expanded a bit more on 5.
Peace out

[ValentineLover]

I wonder why people say tha Jill had a minimal role, she was the ****ign trigger of the game, the reason of Chris being her,she infected(or Irving, I dont know) the poblation, created the Uroboros that killed the BSAA team, in fact she was the key piece to create Uroboros, etc. We may only saw her unmasked a little time(though the game made obvious even to a 5 years old kid that it was her by the time she is unmasked) but she had a huge impact in the game

[Revultraknight]

I wonder why people say tha Jill had a minimal role, she was the ****ign trigger of the game, the reason of Chris being her,she infected(or Irving, I dont know) the poblation, created the Uroboros that killed the BSAA team, in fact she was the key piece to create Uroboros, etc. We may only saw her unmasked a little time(though the game made obvious even to a 5 years old kid that it was her by the time she is unmasked) but she had a huge impact in the game

Exactly! A Character doesn't need to appear all the time to be considered crucial to the storyline. Spencer is the perfect example of it; the old geezer only appeared in RE5, and just look at the hell he caused without appearing in previous games.

Jill also represents this in RE5 and she became an important part of the story indeed. Serving as a catalyst for both Wesker with is viral reasearch and obviously for Chris. Even without appearing much, but still important!

And now with REAE we can play with her

Jill ROCKS!! And 5 wins for its complex story not for innovating.

Innovation is overrated lolol

Another thing people seem to be forgettin or at least not mentioning is Wesker died but...the RED QUEEN data i still out there... In Re4 and REUC we can see his secret office with all the data he input but not in RE5 ... and we can definatly expect the shadow of wesker to be lingering long after he died in 5 creating problems to the heroes or new heroes...if that DATA is found...

The nightmare can still continue...in another form...

[Wanderer]

I

'll agree that 5's story was better, but that's not so much an indication of how good 5's story was as how terrible 4's was. 5 was really typical RE standard...un-shocking shocking revelations, predicatable plot twists and a few new plotholes to add to the tangled fabric. The characters were more believeable, though, and the voice acting did top 4's...although both had good voice acting. Just a slightly iffy script.

Agreed.

I was playing with my friend on offline coop, he has never played the series, and after seeing Jill valentine and the revelation that Chris's partner died, he laughed and i asked why, and he said.

" Obvious, the only person with a mask in the entire game is obviously gonna be Jill." I laughed and let the smart ass find out on his own. Like you said, predictable as can be.

In spite of my personal bias against the direction some characters were steered, i feel i would have really enjoyed the story...had there been more of it!

Everyone says the game was very story driven, maybe more than 4 and the classics, but really, if you discount the files achieved after the game, It really only had like an hour of cut scenes, and a lot of that i calculated was attributed to enemy attacks, boss introductions, and a lot of taunting or talking of Jill idly. I mean in all honesty, for a game that tried to weave new info in as well as close out a series, an hour of cut scenes felt very short.

the files were great, but i always kind of view them as companion pieces too the story, more "did ya know" then emotion and time crafted to make the characters feel real and display them in real time, which i feel would have gone long way for it.

[Revultraknight]

In spite of my personal bias against the direction some characters were steered, i feel i would have really enjoyed the story...had there been more of it!

Thank god there will be even more storyline to enhance the experience more! Which will make it even better!
So i can,t complain will you?

[Darinl1979]

I wonder why people say tha Jill had a minimal role, she was the ****ign trigger of the game, the reason of Chris being her,she infected(or Irving, I dont know) the poblation, created the Uroboros that killed the BSAA team, in fact she was the key piece to create Uroboros, etc. We may only saw her unmasked a little time(though the game made obvious even to a 5 years old kid that it was her by the time she is unmasked) but she had a huge impact in the game

/facepalm

If I could change one thing in a Resident Evil game...that would start as a ripple and turn into a tidal wave...it would be that Jills RE3 attire would be the most conservative clothing you can imagine. Insanely loose turtle neck and baggy pants. I wonder if the Jill worshipping cult would put her up on a pedestal like they do now.

Jill was minimal in RE5 and thats that. Just because they used that as Chris's drive reasoning in the game doesnt mean it couldnt of easily been replaced by something else. However this isn't a thread to debate characters worth in a game.