RE4 Tells A Better Story than RE5

[Dracarys]

Crikey, I've done it now!

And no, I'm not saying 4 had a great story. That's not why i think it's better than 5. I think it's better than 5 for one simple reason.

RE4 didn't fuck up the canon. Everything we knew from previous games was intact in this game. Leon and Ada's relationship, Wesker going out to collect things for his evil schemes and there you go.
RE5 on the othe rhand retconned pretty much everything we knew about Wesker. He was now an experiment instead of just someoen hired by Umbrella. He was now injected by a virus that was given to Birkin as opposed to a virus Birkin created. And this is just off the top of my head. There's probably more.

People make a big deal about RE4 not being directly connected to the main games but even if it wasn't, it's still better than a game that rapes the main games.

I don't wish to read 5 pages so I don't know if it was mentioned but there is a difference between retconning the history and expanding it.

RE5 brought us new knowledge of events we did nto knwo about, not changed events.

We didn't know Wesker was a 'Wesker child' before, now we do, not a retcon. Wesker believed the virus was a unique mutation because Birkin told him so, thus that is what we believed through Wesker knowledge. Turns out Birkin lied, not a retcon.

[Stars1356]

I mean in all honesty, for a game that tried to weave new info in as well as close out a series, an hour of cut scenes felt very short.

the files were great, but i always kind of view them as companion pieces too the story, more "did ya know" then emotion and time crafted to make the characters feel real and display them in real time, which i feel would have gone long way for it.

I actually liked the fact that the cut scenes were short and didn't want the game to be MGS 2 and have to watch a 20 minute cut scene. The files you could read at your leisure and made more sense than a character explaining he plans and previous actions for 20 minutes.

[Darinl1979]

I actually liked the fact that the cut scenes were short and didn't want the game to be MGS 2 and have to watch a 20 minute cut scene. The files you could read at your leisure and made more sense than a character explaining he plans and previous actions for 20 minutes.

That works in essence but it really didn't feel like it worked as well as it should with this game. The purpose of RE5 was pretty much to tie up storylines so fans would stop complaining/speculating. It did a good job but I felt some of the cutscenes just felt out of place. You can clearly tell they put time limit on them, as none of them are longer than 2 minutes. While this is fine, theres just some scenes that I felt should of been longer but felt rushed and awkward.

[ValentineLover]

/facepalm

If I could change one thing in a Resident Evil game...that would start as a ripple and turn into a tidal wave...it would be that Jills RE3 attire would be the most conservative clothing you can imagine. Insanely loose turtle neck and baggy pants. I wonder if the Jill worshipping cult would put her up on a pedestal like they do now.

Actually the outfit that I use more in RE3 is this one, I like the normal one, is lovely, unfitting as the hell but lovely

http://www.residentevilcenter.net/games/residentevil3/costume7.jpg

[GEORGE TREVOR]

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Nobody cares that Jill had a minimal role. Nobody cares that Wesker is dead.

Respectfuly I read that part as being absolute nonsense, a rant which you corrobarate with nothing to prove a relevent point. If this part, of an otherwise interesting post, which shouts loudly, yet says very little, were accurate, then this thread would not exist in which to illustrate such a facile point. There are those who feel that significant integrity was lost without Sherry's inclusion & Jill's role, and at the exspense of nonsensical characters, like Irving.

[Darinl1979]

Respectfuly I read that part as being absolute nonsense, a rant which you corrobarate with nothing to prove a relevent point. If this part, of an otherwise interesting post, which shouts loudly, yet says very little, were accurate, then this thread would not exist in which to illustrate such a facile point. There are those who feel that significant integrity was lost without Sherry's inclusion & Jill's role, and at the exspense of nonsensical characters, like Irving.

Because Sherry is a character thats just bursting with insane character development right? I love how everyone assumes shes going to be some huge character that is going to be the key to it all. I will laugh when Capcom releases some epilogue listing what happened to everyone and hers reads "Sherry went on to live out her life, married a janitor, got a job at Walmart and put the Raccoon City business behind her". Its like some jackass one day realized "Oh wait, theres a character we haven't seen for a while and nothing has come from her storyline! I bet she will be in a game in the future". From that point, everyone over exaggerates her role.

Hell there might of been a zombie that we didnt kill that somehow escaped from Raccoon City...GUIZ HE MIGHT COME BACK TO BE A SUPER MEGA ZOMBIE BOSS IN RESIDENT EVIL 7!".

I was stating the fact that its really not a big deal that Wesker is dead, nor is it a big deal that Jill wasn't as hugely featured as people hoped (Which doesn't matter now as she basically has two whole chapters upcoming). And yes there are people who maybe on this forum or another Resident Evil forum who DO CARE about these stupid details in their game...but is that honestly going to effect the Resident Evil series?

"Hi Mr. President of Capcom...theres a guy on a forum named IeatNemesisforBreakfast47 and he said because Resident Evil was an action game that didnt feature Jill naked with the promise of Wesker appearing in the next game...he won't play anymore Resident Evil games. Whats that? Oh, how will this effect us? Well hes managed to convince 5 other people not to buy the game too. We will lose 5 WHOLE SALES OVER THIS...what should we do? Not do anything? Yeah you right, we will still be in the top 10 best selling games of the year.

[Darkmoon]

People expect Sherry back for several reasons...first of all, Capcom intended to do it at some point. The epilogue and Wesker's Report weren't exactly subtle. Secondly, it's Capcom's MO for RE. They like to use old characters. They'll even bring them back from the dead if they feel a need. I still await with baited breath for the return on Enrico Marini, true mastermind behind the mansion incident. And finally? She's probably still got funky blood, same as Jill. It makes an easy plot point for Capcom while showing they still 'care' about the older fans.

But yeah. I know complaining about stuff on a forum isn't going to do any good. Nor is not buying the games unless lots of other people don't do it. But, if I don't like something, I can still talk about it on discusion forums. I don't feel any need to simply assume it's the newest RE and therefore awesome. And yes, I haven't bought Darkside yet because it's not a game I like, despite having RE stamped on it. Seems like others have been doing that too, though.

[Dracarys]

People expect Sherry back for several reasons...first of all, Capcom intended to do it at some point. The epilogue and Wesker's Report weren't exactly subtle. Secondly, it's Capcom's MO for RE. They like to use old characters. They'll even bring them back from the dead if they feel a need. I still await with baited breath for the return on Enrico Marini, true mastermind behind the mansion incident. And finally? She's probably still got funky blood, same as Jill. It makes an easy plot point for Capcom while showing they still 'care' about the older fans.

I suggested something like that with Sherry and her infection/cure like Jills in another thread. I think would be great, some disagreed.

[Darkmoon]

Personally, I'm not that hot for the idea. But Capcom could do it easily, and I usually prefer to look for more interesting ways to do a story, so...

[Cuz7ate9:(]

I was very disappointed in Resident Evil 5. But I'm being forced to buy it again, cos of the DLC they've adding.

I think it's a con tactic, if I ever saw one. Couldn't they have just released it once in 2008 with everything intact? The logic fails them.

[Revultraknight]

I was very disappointed in Resident Evil 5. But I'm being forced to buy it again, cos of the DLC they've adding.

I think it's a con tactic, if I ever saw one. Couldn't they have just released it once in 2008 with everything intact? The logic fails them.

If it disapointed you why are you buying it again??
Two chapters and extras are gonna make you think different than initially? Ok.

Besides with 5 million copies sold now, their logic is quite profitable if people get the idea.

As for me i´m quite anxious in getting it since it will expand Jill's role and Spencer's mysteries.

[Dracarys]

I was very disappointed in Resident Evil 5. But I'm being forced to buy it again, cos of the DLC they've adding.

I think it's a con tactic, if I ever saw one. Couldn't they have just released it once in 2008 with everything intact? The logic fails them.

Con tactic? It is called support. The game sold really well and had a huge army of fans demanding story and mercs related DLC.


Now we are getting it. Much ++ to Capcom for doing this.


You are not 'forced' to buy it again either, just like you were not forced in anyway to sell your first copy. You brought any re-buying onto yourself.

[Becky's Butt]

If you want a deep and meaningful story, sadly, video games aren't usually the place to find them.

You're living several generations in the past. Many games have deep and meaningful stories that surpass many books.

[Skunky]

^Maybe you and I have different definitions of a "deep and meaningful story".
Either that or you've been reading some pretty shit books.

There are some great stories within games but at this stage, I'd say they are well and truly in the minority.

I stand by my original comment...

You're living several generations in the past.

I know.
I'm not sure I ever got out of the 80's!

[Becky's Butt]

I like reading all manners of literature. From the classics to more modern books, each has some sort of wisdom to give me.

But I won't try to argue what a deep and meaningful story is because it's probably different for everyone.

But if you've played games like Xenogears or the Legacy of Kain series, you'll see plots as decent as most any book and better than most in their superb characterization.