Point of Divergence

[DarkMemories]

The topic is simple: if you could create an alternate canon at any one (or two, if you choose) point in the RE timeline, where would it be and why?

Personally, I'm rather fond of two alternate canons: one that breaks off from CV and another that breaks off from RE4.

In the alternate canon following CV, I'd like to see 3.5 take RE4's place just to see where it would go. In an alternate canon following RE4, I'd like to see a different reason for Wesker collecting all these viruses and absolutely none of RE5's new plot points (namely Project W and the serum) would be utilized.

Feel free to choose ANY point in the timeline (i.e. if you think it should be changed after Zero, that's fine).

[REmaster]

I would like to erase RE4's plot from the canon and replace it with the 3.5 version where Leon dies. I'd also have Chris and Wesker both die at the end of RE5. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the rest of the story.

[codythatsme]

Replace 4 with 3.5.

I liked how RE5 tied some knots of the plot, but some things I would change there too.

[Zombie_X]

I would intersect right after RE1 where the S.T.A.R.S. members left Raccoon. I'd have it so in RE2 Leon would die and so would Claire, plus the virus could not be contained in Raccoon after it was destroyed. Williams G-Virus would have mixed with the T-Virus and caused a new strain to appear.

It would infect most of the USA, and some of Europe and other countries. The remaining S.T.A.R.S. members who went to Europe, would have to survive on their own. And most of all, Wesker would have really died in the Arkley incident.

[Det. Beauregard]

RE5 ending after Wesker falling out of the plane.

That volcano ending was so awful.

[Ray]

RE4- Ashley dies after trying to get the Plagas out of her with that machine crap Luis made. Leon would snap, and kill Saddler (same as always).

Edit: RE5, the edit (edit of first post)- I also came up with another could-have-been story after reading through all the pre-5-release theories.

Here, Jill still would've supposedly "died" in 2006, but of something natural, like cancer or some other crap disease (radiation from Raccoon's explosion, perhaps?). Wesker retrieves her body in secret, knowing that has some form of T-vaccine in it. Since she died, the T began to reawaken, but in a different way other than becoming a zombie. Putting her in cryostasis, he begins to tamper with her. Realizing that the vaccine could dilute the Progenitor, he uses this to help with Ouroboros, which was still too poisonous to even mutate in a human body.

He also has Sherry, and manipulated her into his personal bodyguard (BirdLady), but lends her over to Excella and Irving. Sherry, like Jill, has a dormant virus in her (G), but it's still only dormant (Wesker tried to tamper with it, but couldn't).

Chris, looking for evidence of Jill's body, goes through the events same in 5, but finding Jill still in her tube before reaching the Monarch room. He can't open Jill's tube, so he decides to go ahead to Excella, trying to find answers out of it. But, Excella, taunting Chris, has him fight Sherry the BirdLady, also with Wesker. But, she doesn't get unmasked until the end. After Chris and Sheva fight Sherry the BirdLady, she gets critically injured. Chris, finding out she is Sherry (from Claire, who asks Chris, in favor, to help find Sherry when he can), attempts to put her in a temporary stasis tube, where she can heal (the lab with the tubes is near the Monarch room, where they fight BirdLady if I remember). While waiting, she snaps out of her manipulation (hearing Sheva say "Redfield"), and gives Chris the code to get Jill out. Sherry, dying, tells them about Wesker's plan. Once Jill awakes, Sherry gives a faint smile, and dies before they can get her into the stasis tube.

The rest would go on as normal, except Jill would tag along. Right before they board the ship, she meets Josh, and stays behind. However, Jill finds out (after Chris and Sheva leave for the ship) that her cancer is still growing inside of her.

On the ship, same goes. Except, Excella doesn't mutate. She still gets betrayed by Wesker, but stands up towards Chris and Sheva. She taunts them, but Chris shoots her out of anger. She falls to the floor, coughs up blood, but laughs at Chris. She says she knows that Chris took Jill out of the stasis tube, and that he made a grave mistake. Since she died of cancer, it was still in her body. If she would've been kept in the tube a little longer, her cancer would've gone dormant, but he took her out prematurely (which is why the tube was locked, because Wesker was planning to use her like in the actual 5, except he had to wait out the cancer). Chris, pissed the FUCK off from Excella's comments, shoots her several times in the face, then angrily shoots her dead body multiple times until he's calmed down by Sheva. The fight with Wesker is still the same, except the ship now has a self-destruct button (traditional RE FTW!!!), where the fight with Wesker is timed.

After the fight in the airplane hangar, the plane crashes AROUND the volcano (let's say that the volcano was being monitored from the ship, so as to feel as if it isn't as out of place as per the actual game). Chris and Sheva fight in the island AROUND the volcano, and they injure Wesker horribly (Wesker still does his Ouro-missile punch, and still is in is semi-mutated form).

Jill and Josh make to the island in their helicopter just in time as the volcano erupts. The island begins to burn down as Sheva and Chris make to the helicopter. But, as the island begins to reform (you know, water+lava=new land... right?), Wesker jumps up to the side of the helicopter from the mysterious steam (with his funny little Ouro-arm). Just as he's about to kill Chris, Jill grabs him, and pushes him out of the helicopter.

They both would eventually fall into the still-reforming-but-also-still-burning-with-lava mass of an island. Yes, Jill sacrifices herself to save Chris. Woohoo. I dreamed this a few nights after RE5 first came out, still wanting a character to die.

OH! Some additional pieces that would be found:

-In file form: Plagas is a parasite that formed when Spanish settlers with dormant parasties within them when they mutates by crossing near the Progenitor flowers. The flowers would've grown outside the Ndipaya cave at this time, before they resoluted inside the cave. The plagas wouldn't mutate until they reached native Europe, where it would spawn. However, few people, with genes that could bind with the Progenitor, could control it (like the Salazar family).

-After-credits ending: Sherry's body would be picked up by a mysterious somebody in the end (Dr. Cameron, from the 4D Executor). Dr. Cameron would later be revealed as to be a foil to Wesker, deciding to stay behind the scenes rather than go full forward like Wesker.

-ZOMBIES!!!!

-Instead of those militia guys, I'd have the 'Cleaners' from RE:Survivor.

Ah. I'm done. Imagination runs away with me way too much. I need to get some rest.

[BadWolfX]

I really like that, although it would seem a bit....going through all that trouble just for Jill to die anyway? Gosh, I'd be pissed.

[Ray]

I really like that, although it would seem a bit....going through all that trouble just for Jill to die anyway? Gosh, I'd be pissed.

But that's why I'd give her a heroic death. I really want a character to die, but not just for shocks. In real life, many people die, and not just form pushing people out of windows (or helicopters). That's why I gave her first death something natural, then her second death something heroic, even if she knew she was gonna die anyway (I'm adding/editing that part, where her cancer is still in her).

[Det. Beauregard]

Chris, pissed the FUCK off from Excella's comments, shoots her several times in the face, then angrily shoots her dead body multiple times until he's calmed down by Sheva.

I liked everything you wrote, except for this. It just doesn't sound like Chris's character.

Also, I'd rather see Chris sacrifice himself to save Jill. The cancer subplot would have to be eliminated in this case, though. I just think it would be more fitting if Chris dies while killing Wesker and saving Jill.

[Ray]

I liked everything you wrote, except for this. It just doesn't sound like Chris's character.

Also, I'd rather see Chris sacrifice himself to save Jill. The cancer subplot would have to be eliminated in this case, though. I just think it would be more fitting if Chris dies while killing Wesker and saving Jill.

Thank you. I just really wanted somebody to shoot Excella dead instead of her mutating into a blob. I thought her character was a great bitch (I really liked how they developed her), and that she deserved a better sendoff than being an oddly erotically-symbolic blob.

Also, now that I think of it, I'd really like to watch Chris die (muahaha), but I still want Jill to die instead.

[Beanovsky Durst]

I would change Wesker's "death" and rebirth via the super virus. I'd rather like to see him get out of the mansion without the superhuman powers. This would put his intellectual abilities to the test instead of depending on his physical advantages, having an interest effect on the rest of the saga...

[Erdbeerman]

Chris, pissed the FUCK off from Excella's comments, shoots her several times in the face, then angrily shoots her dead body multiple times until he's calmed down by Sheva.

O.o

And after he's out of ammunition, he backhands Excella to pieces, followed by a very long QTE consisting of multiple straights and stomps.

As Sheva tries to calm him down he haymakers her and continues his way to Wesker.


No, seriously, what you wrote would suit well for a what-if-scenario.
The demise of the master of unlocking reminds me of the death of Ripley in Alien III.

[Ray]

No, seriously, what you wrote would suit well for a what-if-scenario.
The demise of the master of unlocking reminds me of the death of Ripley in Alien III.

... super-powered clones in sequels...? Oh god...
Degeneration:
I'd also have Claire have more involvement in Degeneration. Like, she tags along with Angela while Leon goes to fight Curtis (with those Marine guys). But, once she gets spotted by Curtis, the fight goes on as normal, except Claire's actually involved (injured in her leg, like in the actual movie, but still involved). When Angela ends up hanging between Leon and Curtis, she decides to let go (instead of Leon shooting Curtis), and falls with Curtis. Leon and Claire then escape (like the original, but instead of Angela, it's Claire). Once Curtis and Angela hit the bottom, Curtis breaks Angela's fall. Though, they're both injured equally (fatally). Curtis transforms back, and Angela embraces him. Then... KABLOOM.

Though, afterwards, Frederic Downing is assassinated instead of captured (he gets shot while driving his car into the night). The shooter then collects the evidence, and it's revealed the shooter is Ada. She is then seen to talk to someone on the phone (Dr. Cameron, just to tie in with my RE5 'point divergence'). We can either think she's double-crossing the Organization, or Cameron is part of the Organization itself.

Then, ending goes the same, without Angela. Leon, feeling guilty about Angela's death, reconciles with Claire. Claire, saying it wasn't his fault, has a casual conversation with him ("We should go and get some coffee next time."). They depart their ways, and the movie ends. TriCell then finds the remains of Curtis' and Angela's bodies, but disregard them as just dead, uninfected people. Their bodies are seen next to each other (Curtis' burnt body humanoid, as if he reformed back before death). Then the scene would pan to that one picture of Angela and Curtis (there was one... right? I forgot.), left in a half-burned state.

Yeah, I like killing characters off. I mean, what're the possibilities of Angela appearing in the future anyway.

Well, just my thoughts.

[Det. Beauregard]

I like killing characters off.

I also like killing characters off. Particularly those whose first names are three letters long and start and end with the letter "A."

She should have stayed dead the first time. Can't say the same about Wesker, though.

[Ray]

After reading through this thread more closely, I feel as though we can all make a universe where everything is not as fucked-up as Capcom made. Ah, the land of fan-fiction, where a fan's mind is actually better than someone's at Capcom as of currently.