1.5

[Carnivol]

Alyson Court could pretty much be ruled out from Elza as she said she was asked to audition for RE2 after first doing a character for one of Capcom's versus games. (Marvel vs Capcom, iirc), which means that RE1.5 was probably already dead by the time she even did her first job for Capcom.

No clue about Paul Haddad. The similarities between voices, in general, might just be that Capcom were still aiming for the same characters between 1.5 and 2, but scheduling conflicts (or new union deals or something) required them to redo the voice acting when the dialog script for RE2 started to spin too far away from 1.5's.

One thing I've been kinda curious about is if we actually have any voiced 1.5 video material that is NOT from "Complete Disc"... 'cause I really can't help but wonder if there's a possibility the audio tracks for those videos might have been mixed at a later time (ie. post-cancellation, utilizing scrapped RE2 audio by Alyson Court and Paul Hadded that just didn't make it into the final game or was just randomly recorded in a voice session... like audition material or something that might've just contained 1.5 script content)

[Alzaire]

One thing I've been kinda curious about is if we actually have any voiced 1.5 video material that is NOT from "Complete Disc"... 'cause I really can't help but wonder if there's a possibility the audio tracks for those videos might have been mixed at a later time (ie. post-cancellation, utilizing scrapped RE2 audio by Alyson Court and Paul Hadded that just didn't make it into the final game or was just randomly recorded in a voice session... like audition material or something that might've just contained 1.5 script content)

That's a possibility. As far as I know, there is nothing else that has any voice samples for any of the characters actually speaking. It is pretty obvious that the videos on the CD are a mix, as the same background audio plays throughout the separate videos, even though they go through several unlinked rooms. The voices may in fact be tacked on and not in-game.

Maybe that could explain why the voice samples for Elza and Leon have a (for me) noticeable similar tone to Allyson and Paul's voice, but doesn't match their retail voices exactly. It could be just quick thrown-together voice samples taken from the 1.5 script to tack onto the CD videos just to be interesting, since they never previously showed anything from dialogue cutscenes in a video before.

It's one of those technical questions I don't think we can get answered unless a Capcom guy can tell us, or we obtain a version of the beta that does have voice audio and confirm it that way.

[fujin78]

Alzaire

i've read on a bihazard site , there was cinematics on the beta game !
did you have pics ?

[ronin_akikage]

As far as we all know, the cinematics were not completed... So no images either. Until the RE 1.5 section is completed for this site, you might just want to go to www.bioflames.com and check out more info there. There are tons of images, movies, and interview transcripts there as well.

The unfortunate thing if, Fujin, that asking anyone here a series of questions will get you nowhere -- we really don't know that much about the game. The percentage of completion numbers jumps, the RPD station is practically unknown, and what we do know comes from either watching the videos of it, looking at images, or just reading old pieces of information.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

[Alzaire]

Actually the cinematics/FMV were completed, this was stated in an interview when they mentioned they had to completely redo them because of the new story when they scrapped 1.5. However, unfortunately there is no media footage of any 1.5 FMV available. There is no information whether any will be present on a beta disc either. It's not on the build PSM reviewed though, so if they are included on any disc it would most likely need to be a later version or the final beta.

[OKeijiDragon]

It's not on the build PSM reviewed though, so if they are included on any disc it would most likely need to be a later version or the final beta.

Or it's still on one of Capcom's hard drives that was used in create the cinemas, and was never pressed on a disc. =P

Actually, I recall somewhere here that they didn't necessarily redo some of the FMVs as they just redid Elza's model for the ending scene that they kept, and Leon's 1.5 model was kept.

[Alzaire]

Yes there is of course the possibility that even if the FMV was done, which it supposedly was, that it was never pressed onto a beta disc yet. Hence why I said -if- they are on a disc, it would most likely be the final beta.

I recall an obscure interview somewhere where they flat out stated all the fmv had been completed for 1.5, and they had to redo a lot of it because most of it (esp. the opening) didn't match anymore. Leon's model in the FMV is definitely the same base model, maybe with a few small tweaks (although his knife is still present, as was pointed out earlier in the thread). I wouldn't argue that. The ending FMV, to some degree, is probably similar, although I would say that it too was probably largely tweaked, considering the changes in Sherry and Elza > Claire and the fact there would have been more sub-characters surviving on the train with them.

But it's hard to say overall what kind of differences there might be.

[imacwesker]

This is where the informations concerning 1.5's CGI come from:

http://www.survivhor.com/RE1.5/TEXTES/07/index.html

It was an interview of the japanese company Imagica about RE2's CGI for a Famitsu review of RE2. The only part of the interview about 1.5 (and without any visual) was when they said, "The most challenging part [about making RE2's CGI] was when we had to redo everything, to fit the new scenario".

According to this statement, we can deduct that
1) All the 1.5 CGI were done
2) the storyline told in the CGI of 1.5 was different

But this may not be completely true, because they used Leon's 1.5 model in RE2 CGI, so they obviously didn't "redo everything" ;)

[Alzaire]

Yeah, thank you for posting that, that is the exact interview I had in mind.

[OKeijiDragon]

This is where the informations concerning 1.5's CGI come from:
http://www.survivhor.com/RE1.5/TEXTES/07/index.html

Very interesting... Too bad I can't read french, though. Are there scans of this interview available anywhere?

[Hunk_4TH]

Speaking of cut scenes. The Leon/Claire Licker cgi with the missing stuff in the background. I wonder if that was for one of the final BH 2 betas or 1.5?

[Alzaire]

Speaking of cut scenes. The Leon/Claire Licker cgi with the missing stuff in the background. I wonder if that was for one of the final BH 2 betas or 1.5?

I am pretty sure it's a retail scene from the start. I believe in a video of the earlier version of retail, you can see the stuff missing too.

[Vixtro]

I have scanned all the artworks from BH Archives. Some of them are a lot bigger than yours. The only problem is that you have to dig trough dozen of my pages to find them, because I have put together all the artworks about "Birkin I", "Birkin II", etc.
They start here:

http://www.survivhor.com/RE2/CREATION/ARTWORKS/10/index.html

I have nicknamed "Birkin 1.5" transformation as "Reptile", in my pages.

Cheers, that stuff on your site is immense! I never knew there were was so much released concept art. Shame I don't understand much French otherwise I probably would have found it myself.

[fujin78]

in the videos of resident evil directors cut
you see re1.5 cinematics !

I think that as time passes the less we will have new information.
to find old magazines who speak bio1.5 with pics !
and the videos , not worth thinking about
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[Enrico Marini]

you see re1.5 cinematics !

You see in game cutscenes and not the impressive Full Motion Videos. I don't think any imagery of the Prototypes FMVs have been shown.

to find old magazines who speak bio1.5 with pics !

I know some people have already started doing this but I have yet to see anything new or impressive from the old magazines, after all all they got was either the same handful of screenshots or videos as the next publisher or if capcom did it, some kind of prototype that they more than likely had to return. I don't think magazines would provide anything new as they can't show off everything about a game and all the ones I've seen seem to reiterate the same stuff.