Sherry's Fate Revealed

[Red Queen]

Unfortunately I could not play Darkside Chronicles yet due to my current lack of time. I've always asked myself how could Claire go look for Chris in Europe when Leon could so easily find out his location. But now everything makes sense.

Since I haven't played Darkside yet, in Operation Javier is Leon already an agent from US government or is it just one of those missions before his "promotion", in a matter of speaking? I've always thought he was always an agent, now immediately assigned to it from the moment the government put him and Sherry under custody. I mean, he probably had to do lots of training before having enough skills (the ones from RE4) to become a real agent.

[Archelon]

By the time of Operation: Javier, Leon has joined the secret military organization that is under the direct control of the president. He was given special orders, referred to as "Anti-Virus Weapon Protocol #7600," by the president to eradicate all traces of the virus/es developed by Umbrella, and that is why he was sent on the mission to South America.

In Resident Evil 4, he's a member of the Secret Service (presumably due to the fall of Umbrella the year before).

[News Bot]

In Resident Evil 4, he's a member of the Secret Service (presumably due to the fall of Umbrella the year before).

He isn't, that was added by the translators. In the original text, he's just assigned to her guard duty. He's still a member of the secret organization most likely.

Also, its confirmed now that there is no "Ingrid Hanna". Her name is just Hanna. Ingrid was added by the translators.

[Carnivol]

Just a general note regarding Capcom and their localizations;
Generally, when working on video game localizations, the translators have a Q&A system that enables them to send questions/concerns to project managers actively involved in the game's development. This to generally ensure that the translator doesn't "make things up." In general, the amount of insight a translator and the localization staff is given on big projects tends to go way beyond what most other people get to see. Heck, in many cases, the localization team even have full access to design docs and stuff that not even the regular QA and feedback testers have access to.

Resident Evil 4 was certainly handled internally, at Capcom's internal localization department in Osaka, Japan. Where translations, editing and localization testing is handled for all big English projects is handled. (It's probably the best Japanese <-> English localization office there is. While Nintendo Europe's probably the best M3/M5 localization office these days and Electronic Arts ranking in as the best "global/all languages" office.)

Anyway, assuming Resident Evil 4 was written in Japanese, then it was translated by a Shinsaku Ohara, who's been the translator or otherwise credited as a localization supervisor/special thanks for pretty much all main RE games in the period 2000 ~ 2005. What I'm basically trying to say is; Capcom's localization staff is not really in the habit of just "making things up" (with the exclusion of heavy localization rewrites, such as Phoenix Wright and Devil Kings). If the translator "added" something, it was most likely at the full awareness of the writers. Also, like someone's said before, Japanese is a horribly vague language. Additionally, a Capcom localization is probably a better source for valid information than most supplemental content too.

Just saying... don't be so quick to dismiss the work of a localization department.

(on a different note; I still wonder how the scenario writing works on Resident Evil these days. If it's currently all being done in English and then translated to Japanese or not.)

[Archelon]

Leon would at least be a member of the Secret Service by proxy, because of the very fact that he was placed on Ashely's guard duty. So he may very well still be a part of the secret military organization, but that doesn't necessarily preclude him from being a member of the Secret Service, as well.

[5 Minutes]

@ Red Queen, what I would do is just visit Youtube and watch all of the cut scenes or just watch someone else play through the entire game.

[Red Queen]

Thank you, but I finally bought Darkside Chronicles game.

Anyway, I didn't get this Hanna, Ingrid Hanna thing... What's that? o_O

[News Bot]

Additionally, a Capcom localization is probably a better source for valid information than most supplemental content too.

See; "Master Plaga".

[Carnivol]

We can has storytime?

See; "Master Plaga".

Here's an idea; "how about you fill us in?"

[News Bot]

Anyway, I didn't get this Hanna, Ingrid Hanna thing... What's that? o_O

In Biohazard: The Darkside Chronicles, there are unlockable audio files. Some of them are between Krauser and an operator from the secret military agency who, in English, identifies herself as "Ingrid Hanna". However, there isn't a single mention of "Ingrid" in the script. Likewise, she is identified solely as Hanna in the Inside of Biohazard: The Darkside Chronicles book. Therefore, Ingrid = made-up nonsense.

Here's an idea; "how about you fill us in?"

Just the localization cocking up the main plot point in RE4 and rendering it completely incomprehensible in RE5. Nothing special.

And generally no, supplemental material based directly on design notes and/or written by the developers =/= bad localizations. If I were to write up a list purely of localization errors, let alone incorrect additions, I'd be here quite a while.

Though its a nice idea for an editorial on Project Umbrella.

[Carnivol]

So who made you an expert?

In Biohazard: The Darkside Chronicles, there are unlockable audio files. Some of them are between Krauser and an operator from the secret military agency who, in English, identifies herself as "Ingrid Hanna". However, there isn't a single mention of "Ingrid" in the script. Likewise, she is identified solely as Hanna in the Inside of Biohazard: The Darkside Chronicles book. Therefore, Ingrid = made-up nonsense.

Little quick (not to mention selective) when it comes to dismissing things, are we?

Just the localization cocking up the main plot point in RE4 and rendering it completely incomprehensible in RE5. Nothing special.

Still not following. Please do refresh my memory/elaborate.

If I were to write up a list purely of localization errors, let alone incorrect additions, I'd be here quite a while.

Knock yourself out. There's plenty of time to to around.

[Archelon]

Still not following. Please do refresh my memory/elaborate.

Basically speaking, what's referred to as a "Master Plaga" in Resident Evil 4 is called a "Control Plaga" in Resident Evil 5. Control Plagas (or Master Plagas, whichever you prefer) allow the host to retain their mental faculties and even control their mutations, and they cannot be controlled by other plaga hosts. In addition, the control plaga hosts are, as the name suggests, able to control those who have been infected with regular or "subordinate" plagas, such as the Majini and Ganados.

It's what Chief Mendez, Salazar, Krauser, Saddler, and Irving were infected with.

[Carnivol]

I say tomato (tuh-mey-toh), you say tomato (tuh-mah-toh)

In other words; a very minor, potentially contextual or deliberate, and pretty much irrelevant inconsistency.

[Archelon]

The only potential wrinkle that I can see is that the Biohazard 5 Kaitaishinsho guide says that Irving used a "modified subordinate plaga," and that it's similar to the ones apparently used in Resident Evil 4, but very different from the one used by Saddler. A modified subordinate plaga is essentially the same as a control plaga, but it lacks the ability to control other subordinate plagas.

Some have taken this to suggest that Mendez, Salazar, and Krauser were all infected with modified subordinate plagas, and that Saddler was the only one who had a genuine control plaga, and the "Master Plaga" Ada was after is the same type as Saddler's. It is further speculated that the other plaga samples Ada obtained in Assignment Ada were subordinate control plagas, but there's really no evidence to back this up, aside from some intricate fan theorizing and Ada's comment about "sending something different" to Wesker.

The theory apparently goes that Ada sent the Master Plaga to The Organization and the modified subordinate plagas to Wesker, but again, there's really nothing to suggest that the other samples she had weren't just regular plagas, or that she even sent those samples to Wesker. In fact, Lost in Nightmares offers a more concrete explanation as to how Wesker got ahold of Las Plagas, since we now know that Irving actually worked for Ada.

In any case, Tricell would have had to get its hands on a Master/Control Plaga somehow, or else they wouldn't have been able to make the Type 3 Plagas.

[News Bot]

Little quick (not to mention selective) when it comes to dismissing things, are we?

Selective how? Shitty localization which just so happens to add in information never seen in any other source, over concrete and accurate information from the original source? Surely not.

In other words; a very minor, potentially contextual or deliberate, and pretty much irrelevant inconsistency.

Little quick (not to mention selective) when it comes to dismissing things, are we?

Saddler had the actual "control Plaga" (dominant species being the accurate translation, with "Master" being the worst possible one). Salazar and Mendez had modified subordinate Plagas. The "sample" is the only other control Plaga in existence cloned by Saddler. Krauser has a different type of Plaga from Salazar and Mendez, but it's still a modified subordinate one.

Modified subordinate Plagas are basically control Plagas without the ability to actually control any other Plaga, but grant the host complete control and drastically enhanced capabilities. That's why Tricell are still able to make Type 3 Plagas (exact same gene), and why a control Plaga isn't actually used to control the other Plagas in the game at all (the modified subordinate one they have is used on Irving purposefully by Tricell purely to use and improve its capabilities in combat).

The other Plaga samples retrieved by Ada are just normal Plagas + several different variants developed by the Los Illuminados.

And on that, the people who "wrote" Assignment Ada have one single credit in the series: Wesker's Report. Which is also non-canon.