RE 1.5 Images: What does this do?

[Upaluppa]

It almost certainly will. It's too big a game and there are too many copies out there to stop it being gotten at some point. It's just a matter of time and cash, and those are on my side (I'm both rich and immortal, after all).

Time is on my side, yes it is.

In this case I am counting on you!
But still, I have my doubts concerning an 1.5 leak...

The only thing that would totally satisfy me is the "Complete Disc" build of 1.5.
But since INFLAMES did not manage to get it back then and the only person to ever show proof of this build to be "preserved" from Capcom's hands disappeared without a trace I highly doubt that it will ever see the light of the day again...

What I expect to be more likely is that this earlier build with those distinctly different gun holding animations (the one the PSM guy had a chance to play) makes publicity again as it could be in the hands of more than just one person. (I do not know if the "curator" ever was an owner of the disc or not, this guy was quite a conspiracy himself...)

Not that a leak of it would be a bad thing (in fact I am hoping for this to happen), but still, that build is quite incomplete and missing character models, cutscene voices (I heard so, but is this confirmed?), probably the lab shelter (although I am not sure if this place was ever finished in a later build) is missing as well and possibly some other areas too, not to mention all of those little improvements, touch ups and bug fixes the Complete Disc build received...

You know, I'd love to play the most complete build of 1.5 because it should provide the most intense experience...

But from our current viewpoint of not having any build to play at all I believe it is the best if I simply shut up, stop with the ranting about things and just try to be happy with whatever build we might get someday!

Edit:
I am closing this post with some of my 1.5 pictures for you guys to stare at:


These are fakes, but I really like how realistic they look.

Maybe I'll create more fake 1.5 pictures and start claiming to be the curator to create some mischief!
Just kidding, I won't do something like this, but I really might create more of these pictures and show them off!
(Boredom sometimes causes me to do such useless work, you know?)

See you all later if there's anything new to talk about!

[RPD490]

Oh! Ulpaluppa, did you upload your 1.5 Media yet??



Well it could be possible to recreate 1.5 on the PC, seeing that Dark Biohazard was able to use the ADT Packer and place in the 1.5 rooms for RE2, as well as RE1 Rooms. He's the only one we could count on to possibly seeing he was able to fix the one bug from RE3 for walking through the walls in the 1.5, though he would need to make it so you don't see the enemies through the walls and place the RDT data for the doors that the 1.5 Rooms lead too.

[Upaluppa]

Oh, I totally forgot about the upload...
Don't worry, I'll upload my stuff as soon as possible!

By the way, not that it really matters, but I just stumbled upon this video and was surprised to see the same room, the same desk, the same Pocket PSX console and the same hands as in the "GoroMacida plays 1.5" video!

Looks like the curator is trying to give it away as the prize for some lame contest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuDUsrqkCoc
What a freak...

Just for comparison, here's my backup of the 1.5 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJjtKxA5uOM

I guess this should make things clear for all of you who still believe "GoroMacida" to be a different person than the curator...

Edit:
Apparently the Pocket PSX is a different one, but it's still the same room and desk...

[RPD490]

I agree and there is no rush, take your time on the upload, I'm patient XD

[aris13]

I honestly don't think Capcom understands why we want the game so badly.

I always wondered where the Japanese RE community stands in this. Are they interested in 1.5?

[OKeijiDragon]

I always wondered where the Japanese RE community stands in this. Are they interested in 1.5?

From what I constantly hear, they never gave two craps and a half about 1.5. I often wonder about that though, is it because of a "Well, we're happy for what RE2 is, why should we feel for it's previous version" attitude? I would definitely understand that.

[Upaluppa]

I have just realized something...
Since curator and goromacida are obviously one and the same this also means that it is indeed the curator who has the 1.5 disc, not somebody else who allowed him to play...

Just why does such a gem have to fall into the hands of such an unpleasant person?
All the time I had some hope that somebody else than him might own the disc, but since it definitely is him, THIS BUILD OF 1.5 IS DEAD, LOST AND GONE FOREVER!!!

If there aren't any other builds/discs of the same build out there normal people are not allowed to know about then we can kick 1.5 right into the trashcan and stop thinking about it...

I still can't believe that I have allowed myself to be fooled by this clown for so long...
I wasn't too active in the RE community the time after the curator made clear that we won't get anything from him, so I apologize in case I just wrote what everybody realized long ago.


Anyways, does anybody here have contacts to Japanese RE communities?

I have always wondered what the Japanese fans think about this game.
They were/still are probably much more likely to get a hold of a copy and I don't really believe that they have less interest in it than western RE fans.

Wasn't the person who sold 1.5 to the curator Japanese as well?
And didn't he seem to be unaware of the true value of his possession?
From what I have read the curator bought the disc for a ridiculously forgettable sum of money...

[RPD490]

Well it can't be helped I guess. I mean what could we do, go find the curator and demand to release a leak of 1.5 to the RE Fans around the world, instead of being a smug moron because he has it? I mean the only way fans can even get a chance to play some form of 1.5 is waiting for Dark Biohazard to be released, seeing in the second trailer that there is some forms of 1.5 areas OR wait for Marvin to continue experimenting on the 1.5 RDTs in the PC RE2 and release a save like he did with RE3 1.5 Rooms.

[Upaluppa]

I am sorry if this may sound rude, but I'd rather not play 1.5 at all than playing a hacked RE2/RE3 that tries to be an 1.5 lookalike...

Now don't misunderstand me, being a code hacker and mod creator myself for quite some time now I have a lot of respect for people like Dominion, Enrico Marini, Marvin_Biohazard, MarkGrass (this list could go on for quite a while, so I'll just stop it here and hope nobody feels disrespected) their faithful projects and the hard work they do in regards of customizing beloved games, but in case of 1.5 a mod just isn't the same...

No mod, no matter how professional and enjoyable it is will ever be able to recreate a pixel perfect 1.5 clone.
I just want to play the real thing and not a hacked RE2! (Which doesn't mean I am not eagerly waiting for Dark Biohazard to be finished)

If I can't play a real 1.5 build I'll rather stay with the memories of this game spawning from the various media released over the years and try to accept the fact that I simply won't be able to play it.

Edit:
You can't release/play file modification dependent mods in form of a normal savestate.
All of the modified files have to be replaced in your game!
A savestate would just produce a glitched weirdness if you would try loading it into an unmodified version of the game!

That savestate with the "playable" 1.5 room has been "corrupted" on purpose to make it load one of the 1.5 backgrounds still found on the Trial Edition disc...
You know, a savestate might save the RAM of a game, but it does not "remember" any kind of changes made to the binary code or files used by the game...

I could imagine something like a simple memory hack that places some unused weapon in the players inventory as a savestate only mod, for example, but nothing as complex as Dark Biohazard!

[Darkmoon]

I have just realized something...
Since curator and goromacida are obviously one and the same this also means that it is indeed the curator who has the 1.5 disc, not somebody else who allowed him to play...

Just why does such a gem have to fall into the hands of such an unpleasant person?
All the time I had some hope that somebody else than him might own the disc, but since it definitely is him, THIS BUILD OF 1.5 IS DEAD, LOST AND GONE FOREVER!!!

If there aren't any other builds/discs of the same build out there normal people are not allowed to know about then we can kick 1.5 right into the trashcan and stop thinking about it...

I still can't believe that I have allowed myself to be fooled by this clown for so long...
I wasn't too active in the RE community the time after the curator made clear that we won't get anything from him, so I apologize in case I just wrote what everybody realized long ago.

There's a little more to it than that, but it does seem he really doesn't own the disc. He simply had access to it. It's not a dead end though. For one thing, this is the most common version out there. I recall hearing that there were 40 discs of this or something. The person the Curator knows certainly isn't the only one with it. And while he isn't interested in a trade at this time, that may change in the future.

Anyways, does anybody here have contacts to Japanese RE communities?

I have always wondered what the Japanese fans think about this game.
They were/still are probably much more likely to get a hold of a copy and I don't really believe that they have less interest in it than western RE fans.

Wasn't the person who sold 1.5 to the curator Japanese as well?
And didn't he seem to be unaware of the true value of his possession?
From what I have read the curator bought the disc for a ridiculously forgettable sum of money...

Short answer is: yes, but there's a very limited interest in Japan. The simple truth is that there are probably a few people in Japan who would be happy to sell, if they knew anyone really wanted it. Again, the Japanese have a very different view of things to us...for example, when you are conserving a sword and the blade is damaged, you replace the blade. If the handle is damaged, you replace the handle. But they consider it the same item even without any of the origional sword left. Essentially, Capcom says 'That versionw as a failure, this version wasn't' and they're satisfied with that.

The tale of the disc Curator got access to is possibly this: the seller in Japan offered it to someone he knew for $300. They didn't get back to him. I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but it was offered to us lot for ten times that. We agreed, raised the cash...and the origional buyer got off his arse and accepted it for $300. Due his personal sense of honour the seller insisted on giving it to that guy, and because of how the deal was, wasn't allowed to sell us a copy of the disc for the $3000 either.

The Curator then got hold of 1.5 shortly after that. It's probably, but not confirmed, to be the same copy.

[Upaluppa]

The tale of the disc Curator got access to is possibly this: the seller in Japan offered it to someone he knew for $300. They didn't get back to him. I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but it was offered to us lot for ten times that. We agreed, raised the cash...and the origional buyer got off his arse and accepted it for $300. Due his personal sense of honour the seller insisted on giving it to that guy, and because of how the deal was, wasn't allowed to sell us a copy of the disc for the $3000 either.

The Curator then got hold of 1.5 shortly after that. It's probably, but not confirmed, to be the same copy.

If what you are saying there is the truth then I am speechless about how much of an unfortunate event that attempt of the community to buy 1.5 was.

If I got this right then the disc not only slipped right through our hands when we were only a few steps away from obtaining it, but the mysterious seller also found "honor" to be of more worth than what 3000$ are in comparison to 300$!

I mean that word on itself sounds like something that comes straight out of the middle ages, there is no more "honor" in todays world.

I'd never thought that Japanese people have such a different point of view from the rest of the world.
If somebody puts "honor" over such a large profit people certainly will call him crazy, at least in the western world I know...

Or maybe there was more behind it than that and we just don't know the full story...

Also, if I were him I at least had kept a copy of the disc for myself without letting anyone know about it.
(Nobody could find out if I ever made backups of the disc, so why should I not insist on creating them?)

You can call me a profit hungry and cold hearted kind of person for thinking this way, but it is the way I tend think about this and no, I am not ashamed of doing so...

[Darkmoon]

No so much the rest of the world...just the Western World. Every area has it's own little oddities. Certain parts of the world see cheese as vile, because it's milk that's gone off, but eat deep fried crickets like we would a bag of crisps/chips. They're quite nice by the way.

That's the story as I understand it, but I wasn't involved that paticular transaction. And yes, to some folks, doing what they see as the right thing would be worth more than any sum of cash.

Different views for different folks.

[Upaluppa]

Heh, you actually made me laugh with that comment about deep fried crickets!
(I'm vegetarian, but even if not I most likely wouldn't eat them unless I'd get 1.5 for doing so!)

But I guess you are right, cultural differences have a heavy impact on people's reactions...

Well, let's just wait another ten years and maybe, just maybe something new comes up until then!
I think it's unlikely for another 1.5 copy to pop up anytime soon, but I usually say it's patience that makes us strong, so let's just keep up hope and wait for something to happen!

[RPD490]

I'll tell you this, if I was ever in the Curator's footsteps, I would, leak the game out to the world. The RE Community deserves to get a shot on how RE2 was meant to be played. That's my philosophy.

[Stu]

Oh please. The way RE2 was meant to be played, is RE2.