Betas, breasts and the making of Resident Evil 5

[Darkmoon]

#1. They weren't aware of another outbreak coming. After RE1 they destroyed the mansion and with it the evidence. You also have to take into account that Umbrella likely had a sweep team out to destroy the evidence in Raccoon Forest. All that happens in Raccoon City is the result of a different outbreak altogether months later.

And while the plan was to take out Umbrella's base in Europe, Chris was the only one who left for that. Barry got his family to safety. Jill stayed in Raccoon City. Jill resigned from STARS as well and likely turned over her uniform. We know she turned over her STARS ID card anyways. We can't assume that she cornered herself and padded everything to prepare for the inevitable apocalypse. All she has at the start of the game is herself and her gun. So yeah, after a few months the outbreak hits and she is caught off guard.

And yes, even the delta trained can be caught off guard. This isn't limited to zombie outbreaks...... ;>_>

It is possible. But Raccoon didn't just collapse in a couple of hours. I admit, I'm not clear on the details of exactly how fast the Outbreak took, but I still find it exceptionally odd that there was no warning at all. And I do believe that she would have been looking. The chances of every B.O.W being destroyed in the self destruct of the Arklay facilities seems...remote. We know, and S.T.A.R.S certainly knew, that there was at least one pack of dogs outside the mansion. And then, there are the attacks that caused the investigation. How many zombies or Hunters wandered off the grounds in search of prey?

#2. It depends. Some women do find them comfortable...maybe not in a zombie outbreak, but that's not influenced on her decision to wear it before the outbreak hit. I previously brought up the sweater and boots. Both addressing her choice in what might fit the weather and what feels comfortable.

If she was caught completely off guard, that's one thing, although I still feel that seems unlikely. But let's assume she was caught, miles from home, unprepared for any trouble...with a handgun. Why doesn't she get something more suited to survival? I'm not expecting her in full blown riot gear. On the other hand, a jacket to cover her arms and shoulders doesn't seem like a stupid choice, so long as it doesn't billow. And leather isn't easy to chew. It's certainly a lot tougher than bare flesh.

[Bertha]

Anyone that thinks Jill's outfit was for sexuality obviously is in denial. If they went so far as to change the story in RE5, why would they not want to make their lead female overly sexy in 3? If they outfit really was that tactical, why arent our cops/soldiers/etc today dressing their women in every day uniforms? Oh...because it wouldnt work.

Here's a view from another female: tube tops are uncomfortable to run in, especially if you have larger breasts. It leaves the entire upper body unprotected and exposed. Canon may state that Jill never gets bitten, yet she's also leaping through glass and running through fires and next to explosions without any trace of injury as well.

Let's face it. Its a video game. Video. Game. Major market is for males. Males love tits, violence, and more tits, often ass. And last I checked, the discussion for whether or not Jill, a make believe character, is a whore is here.


So yeah....about that RE5 beta content

[Darkmoon]

It had less breasts. Hence why it was ended.

[Bertha]

I thought it was already stated that ass is where its at?

[Smiley]

It is possible. But Raccoon didn't just collapse in a couple of hours. I admit, I'm not clear on the details of exactly how fast the Outbreak took, but I still find it exceptionally odd that there was no warning at all. And I do believe that she would have been looking. The chances of every B.O.W being destroyed in the self destruct of the Arklay facilities seems...remote. We know, and S.T.A.R.S certainly knew, that there was at least one pack of dogs outside the mansion. And then, there are the attacks that caused the investigation. How many zombies or Hunters wandered off the grounds in search of prey?



If she was caught completely off guard, that's one thing, although I still feel that seems unlikely. But let's assume she was caught, miles from home, unprepared for any trouble...with a handgun. Why doesn't she get something more suited to survival? I'm not expecting her in full blown riot gear. On the other hand, a jacket to cover her arms and shoulders doesn't seem like a stupid choice, so long as it doesn't billow. And leather isn't easy to chew. It's certainly a lot tougher than bare flesh.

As I brought up the idea of Umbrella sweeping the forest for evidence isn't unlikely. Even in UC Sergei and Ivan wipe out the dogs waiting outside the mansion. After a certain amount of time with nothing to prove the STARS are disgraced and everyone moves on. If there was a danger of an outbreak coming that was a result of RE1 it didn't stop Chief Irons, William Birkin, Sergei or any of the others. Once the Raccoon outbreak hits though everything has gone to hell.

And I do believe Jill was caught off guard. From a zombie attack anyways. I don't think carrying a gun is off because you don't need to be a cop to protect yourself. And given Umbrella's nature having it around might have been a good idea. But what she wears is a reflection on her personal taste, and not to gear up for an attack she never saw coming.

[Vector]

I thought it was already stated that ass is where its at?

Oh, you mean this ass?




...or was it DAT ASS?!

[Bertha]

And I do believe Jill was caught off guard. From a zombie attack anyways. I don't think carrying a gun is off because you don't need to be a cop to protect yourself. And given Umbrella's nature having it around might have been a good idea. But what she wears is a reflection on her personal taste, and not to gear up for an attack she never saw coming.

Since when is Jill in control of her own fate? Let's remind ourselves, outloud, once again for the record: Jill is a video game character. She is not real. She was created by people who wanted to make money. The fact that people so vehemently argued this for three pages or so now is fucking amazing.

Oh, you mean this ass?


...or was it DAT ASS?!

I'm still waiting for the day Pokemon and Resident Evil mix.
A wild Sheva appeared!
She used face sitting.
It's super effective!

[Darkmoon]

As I brought up the idea of Umbrella sweeping the forest for evidence isn't unlikely. Even in UC Sergei and Ivan wipe out the dogs waiting outside the mansion. After a certain amount of time with nothing to prove the STARS are disgraced and everyone moves on. If there was a danger of an outbreak coming that was a result of RE1 it didn't stop Chief Irons, William Birkin, Sergei or any of the others. Once the Raccoon outbreak hits though everything has gone to hell.

And I do believe Jill was caught off guard. From a zombie attack anyways. I don't think carrying a gun is off because you don't need to be a cop to protect yourself. And given Umbrella's nature having it around might have been a good idea. But what she wears is a reflection on her personal taste, and not to gear up for an attack she never saw coming.

I think we'll just have to disagree on this one. I don't think Umbrella could have pulled off that kind of operation with so much attention on the area, and I don't feel Jill would have been so badly caught out, nor do I think there was absoloutely no warning to Raccoon City's fall...but I certainly can't proove those points. Your reasoning makes as much sense as mine.

Plus, the thread is horribly off topic.

[Bertha]

I think we'll just have to disagree on this one. I don't think Umbrella could have pulled off that kind of operation with so much attention on the area, and I don't feel Jill would have been so badly caught out, nor do I think there was absoloutely no warning to Raccoon City's fall...but I certainly can't proove those points. Your reasoning makes as much sense as mine.

Plus, the thread is horribly off topic.

Yeah...like...whatever happened to those corpses the RPD found that originally set off the Arklay investigation anyway? I suppose Umbrella whisked them out of the morgue or something before they became zombies, even though the bodies were discovered hours after being bitten/mauled. I think people saying the outbreak was in one day is just....meh. Of course, the RE Genius Brigade can probably sweep in here, talk about how the outbreak was within a matter of moments, and that I should just translate one of my own Japanese sources so I'd figure it out.

Video game logic states that the less women wear, the more they can hold without pockets. If I was a video game character....I'd be able to snuggle an Uzi or two between my thighs, while running at top speed. Dont even get me started about the guided missiles I'd be totting around in my cleavage.

[Guest]

Cut the crap already and make this about suggestive Chris.

[News Bot]

It is possible. But Raccoon didn't just collapse in a couple of hours. I admit, I'm not clear on the details of exactly how fast the Outbreak took, but I still find it exceptionally odd that there was no warning at all.

It did. There was no warning.

The reason for the sudden outbreak is the fact that a football game was being held in the city at the time, with citizens of another town in Raccoon City at the same time. It's also alluded to at the beginning of Outbreak. Early on September 24, a "riot" breaks out in the stadium when at least one zombie starts having a buffet. Infection spreads from there at fever pitch (think a larger version of the airport scene in Degeneration).

And yes, zombies are virtually superhuman. They're stronger than the average human and have no pain sensations, on top of higher overall vitality. Barely any clothing, if any, would make any sort of difference.

[Archelon]

So, I finally got my copy of the book a couple of days ago.

Aside from all of the beta materials, I think the most interesting thing for me was a little nugget tucked away in the interview with Takeuchi where he acknowledges the fact that some were disappointed with the way the game turned out. He also said that he hoped the feedback would lead the team to make a better game next time, but I assume this interview was taken before he said he would have nothing to do with Resident Evil 6.

Still, it was nice to see that he recognized that there was disappointment rather than just hammering home how the game sold gangbusters.

Here's the quote:

I've read player reviews on the internet, which include both positive and negative opinions like "I was totally satisfied with the game," "I would have liked it better if they had done it differently," "It went beyond anything I could have ever imagined," and "I thought it would be better." ... Of course, we are always thinking of the players when we are creating a game, so whenever I see a positive comment from someone who has played our game, I always have a "This is why I love my job" moment. Even when the comment I read is less than flattering, I take it as encouragement to try and make the next game that much better.

Kawata briefly touches on a similar topic, as well:

I look forward to hearing player reactions, especially the constructive criticism. If I get the chance to work on the next game in the series, I will be sure to take the players' opinions to heart. Of course, even if I were to read every player suggestion out there, there is always the distinct possibility that we will make a totally different game. (laughs) That being said, I think games reflect the wishes of their players more than any other media out there. I doubt anyone could ever create a game that completely satisfies every single person in the world, but I will constantly strive to at least create games that bring fun and happiness to our players.