Sadly MoS it's all about the Benjamins nowadays, not substance. The only way I could see anyone really enjoying this movie is if they had no clue about what Resident Evil is and/or simply has no taste in movies. I don't care what the hell they put in this movie, rocket ships flying through a futuristic Avalon, or people being able to communicate with their minds, nothing could possibly save this movie from being a giant dung heap.
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Originally posted by Member_of_STARS View PostWHy would anyone be defending something which relies purely on visual effects and caters to casual, mainstream gamers who remember only a couple of names and scenes from the games theyve played (and thrown away), among the people who cant appreciate quality anyway?
I think it's ridiculous that people think that people who can enjoy a movie like this have either no taste or don't know what Resident Evil is.
The films have wide spread appeal - that's understandable, and it's why the movies make so much money in the first place (Afterlife has been a commercial success as far as I'm aware). Liberties need to be taken with the storyline, which, naturally, pull it more and more away from the original games.
That being said, the fact that you expect Afterlife to bring things back to the original storylines after what we got in "Genesis", Apocalypse and Extinction is laughable in itself. Why go see a movie that you know you're going to hate?
I feel sorry for people who claim to have AMAZING TASTE in film but can't sit down and enjoy what is no doubt a popcorn movie that really isn't meant to evoke or stimulate any thoughtful response from the viewer.
Ironically most of my qualms about the film were to do with the shoehorning of videogame elements into the film without any proper explanation, but the movie itself was still quite bearable.
Anyway.... (Spoilers ahead)
I just got back from my viewing in IMAX 3D. The 3D was definitely over the top and very gimmicky but I kind of liked it that way. There was one particular sequence where a chunk of sputum appeared to be on my glasses and I reached to wipe it off. It was a bit of a strange moment.
+ Liked the fact that Claire wore what she wore in RE2 (kind of)
+ Chris was okay
+ Music was pretty amazing
+ Opening scene was very odd, but had some kind of appeal for me
+ Executioner looked just like it did in RE5
+ Overall the pacing was much better put together than Extinction in particular.
- No future proofing at all. Jill and Chris have no reason to know eachother, Redfields didn't seem to know who Wesker was, thus there is no rivalry developed between Chris and Wesker. I don't even think that Claire knows who Chris really is - the movie makes it seem as if Chris was lying or something.
- Executioned was a terrible shoe in to reference RE5. No explanations given as to why that thing was there or how it acted.
- Same deal with Plagas 2.0 zombies.
- No proper explanation for Chris' imprisonment
- Guns don't work when wet. =/
- More boring stock characters who were introduced then died
- Wesker was too boyish and not threatening.
- Overuse of those ridiculous mega bombs
- We need to start seeing TriCell, or Excella or something.
- Wesker spewing out random tentacle devourers? Seemed kind of odd.
But yeah. I mean, it's not anything groundbreaking, but it was a fun movie to go and see with your friends. I did moan and groan at some scenes and some horribly transposed lines from the games, but otherwise I still enjoyed it for what it was
I would think that after four installments, when the inevitable sequel comes out most of you who hate it will know to stay away. There's no point putting yourself through these "terrible" movies if you think you know what to expect already. Things won't change.
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I just watched the ridiculous RE5 ripped fight scene again. How the hell do Claire and Chris not shoot and hit each other? They are aiming right at each other and standing just yards apart for god's sake! Wesker may be fast enough to dodge, but I doubt they are!"I've got 100 cows."
"Well I've got 104 friends."
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So, I've sat down and thought about it a while and I'll go with, 'It could have been worse but only if it started shooting rabid bees into the cinema while it played.' Which is better than Apcolypse, where the bees would have, I feel, improved the experience. All in all I'll rate it worse than Genesis, better than Apocolypse and about the same as Extinction.
I know it's meant to be a brainless popcorn flick, and I didn't exactly have high hopes when I was dragged, screaming and begging the Dark Lords to strike me down, into the cinema. Still, it was a bit...too brainless, even for a popcorn flick. The first one pulled it off. The sequals...really haven't. I'm guessing the heavy focus on Alice means they have no room for plot? Anyway, details.
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So...yeah. An implosion bomb or something? Really? You just had spare cash in the special effects budget, didn't you? A normal explosion would have worked just as well. The fact that explosion bomb is apparently a tiny device next to hanger is kinda of a what? moment too. Still, it did set up for the equally what? ending.
The Clone Army was never a good plotline. There was no where good it could go. Being destroyed ten minutes into the movie was not the best plan in the world, really, given how big a deal was made of it. It really looked like they had no idea what to do with and so it was scrapped.
How the hell does Alice survive the plane crash? Wesker is so badly hurt he needs his super human mutations to keep him alive, and they start taking over. Alice is mortal, again, and apparently survive the same plane crash completely unscaved. Obviously, again, Anderson had no idea either and just screamed, 'A WIZARD DID IT!' at the production crew.
It's nice to see all the greenery back. What with the third movie telling us it was all dead. I swear, there are so many plotholes in these movies that it's more like a plot net...
OK, Plagas zombies burrowing. OK. How? I hate to mention it, but Predetor Face doesn't mean you can dig through concrete. They don't have claws or acid...so, yeah. There really was no need to add them in. If you wanted a burrowing animal the RE games do have several, such as Grave Digger, which you could base it on. Same goes for Executioner. Who made him, as he was obviously made? Why was he there? Seriously, did anyone think about this shit and just not put it in the movie or did Anderson just keep screaming a, 'A WIZARD DID IT! MORE ALICE WILL MAKE IT BETTER!'
Coins as ammo. Why? OK, so you can't find bullets and you somehow manage to set up a pair of shotguns so they can be rapidly reloaded with coins and a charge of gunpowder, which is pretty impossible and why people use shells...where do you get the gunpowder? Do you seriously expect me to believe Alice can make military grade gun powder easily?
When the zombies get in A) Since when have they started running and B) how the blue fuck did they all find there way to the top of the building in 0.7 seconds? Talk about a pacing issue...still, it's nice to know that someone told Anderson the Walking Dead was set in a prison so it would be perfect for his movie.
I admit, I was tuning out at this point, whimpering and crying for the brain cells I could feel commiting seppuku rather than trying to deal with any more plot failures, but how exactly did they find the Arcadia boat thingy? As far as I saw they just took a dingy and sailed over to it, but they shouldn't have known where it was.
Claire's amnesia was nice and...totally pointless. I guess it actually having any relevance to anything ever would have taken too much time away from Alice? They even made it so the Redfields did stuff that mattered, like not die at Wesker's hands and shoot him! That's enough non-Alice stuff for anyone.
Wesker. Just...Wesker. Others have mentioned his accent's rapid changes, the dodgyness of his fights and death(s) and the interesting reasoning behind why he was stalking Alice by satelite...but not doing anything to try and get her otherwise. I'll just leave it there.
Why are Umbrella still catching people? OK, when Wesker gets brain hungry I can see it, but...they were catching people before that, as seen with Claire and Co. Why? They don't need more bio-weapons, they don't need more cash. They need survivors for breeding, if nothing else. At least in Extinction the evil experiements made a certain sense, since they were on zombies. People are a distinctly finite resource now. Keeping them all in tubes for experimenting seems like a bad plan.
I must admit, I could not see why, exactly, people are so sure Wesker lives. I couldn't see the parachute that was meant to come off, only chunk of air craft. Maybe I'm missing something. I hope not...
So, yeah. I have a headache.Last edited by Darkmoon; 10-17-2010, 07:47 AM.
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Originally posted by James View PostI think this is a bit hypocritical when you honestly sit down and objectively consider the quality of the original game's storyline anyway. They're our favourite, or one of our favourite series, for sure, but things aren't as amazing as people seem to think they are.
I think it's ridiculous that people think that people who can enjoy a movie like this have either no taste or don't know what Resident Evil is.
Liberties need to be taken with the storyline, which, naturally, pull it more and more away from the original games.
RE Degeneration was awesome.
That being said, the fact that you expect Afterlife to bring things back to the original storylines after what we got in "Genesis", Apocalypse and Extinction is laughable in itself. Why go see a movie that you know you're going to hate?
I feel sorry for people who claim to have AMAZING TASTE in film but can't sit down and enjoy what is no doubt a popcorn movie that really isn't meant to evoke or stimulate any thoughtful response from the viewer.
Ironically most of my qualms about the film were to do with the shoehorning of videogame elements into the film without any proper explanation, but the movie itself was still quite bearable.
I would think that after four installments, when the inevitable sequel comes out most of you who hate it will know to stay away. There's no point putting yourself through these "terrible" movies if you think you know what to expect already. Things won't change.
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Originally posted by Member_of_STARS View PostI was never a fan of the first RE and they fixed all the issues I had with it with REmake, which most of RE fans thought was a fantastic game. Not to mention the fact that 9 years of plot development created hundreds of thousands of pages of discussions, theories and actually interesting threads. Hundreds of fansites and the games in their era were detailed in plot and had enough depth for people to like them for something more than just cool sunglasses or megamuscles. So no. Im not being hypocritical and neither am I lying to myself.
I like movies. From comedy to drama. From low budget to high budget. I appreciate movies for their entertainment value. Its the oldest excuse in the book- "the movie was awesome because youre entertained for 1.5 hours". If you need entertainment so bad that you have to go and see any movie, you cant manage your time and/or you dont have hobbies.
El oh el.
RE Degeneration was awesome.
I didnt "go" see this movie.
I know whats a good popcorn flick and what isnt. I dont pride myself in having a "better taste" in movies. I see and have seen hundreds of movies from crap to fantastic. That doesnt mean I am unable to recognize whats bad and what isnt.
Theres nothing ironic about it, unless youve misused the word. The use of videogame elements with no background, no actual necessity and no point is what the movie consisted of, next to "cool speshul fx". If I wanted to go see a movie for its special effects, I would fire up Crysis and shoot me up some 10´000 barrels.
I havent seen a single RE movie in its theatre release. And most of us (who hate the movies) and have seen them in their release just want to see how bad they can get.Last edited by James; 10-18-2010, 09:32 AM.
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