It's amazing how everything you say shows off what an arrogant twat you are.
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Originally posted by Jill's boobWhat did they do that is "almost the impossible" other than survive extraordinary circumstances?
He was a generic character who laughed at the Tyrant. Jill is no better, since it's very unlikely, even today, for a woman to be part of a police special forces among men.
When I said they could almost do the impossible, I didn't say they did. I was implying that they were created as action heroes who could possibly do the impossible and guess what? Oh yes, in RECV and RE3 they do almost the impossible...
And I'm still not sure what "master knife combat" she displayed in RE2?
Your comment about RE2 Leon not having any special skills...I guess being shot through the chest and quickly recovering to continue the mission at hand is not something in the realm of your definition of "typical action hero doing the impossible."
At least, he's the only character who gets hurt between the two first RE games. That makes him even more a believable character. He has flaws (gullible), he gets shot and has no special training.
I confirm he's the most believable, relatable and oridinary protagonist in the entire series.Last edited by Grem; 09-24-2010, 05:38 AM.
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Oh, wow. Insults. Over video game characters. I have such a feeling of grown upness and maturititity in this thread now. Yup. Let's end it here, though guys, before the maturity ups the tone too much. And I have to ban you.
Let's be clear here...the weapon usage of every character except, possibly, Chris and Jill is whacky. Leon uses a flamethrower, which is hardly standard police equipment. Claire uses a grenade launcher. Rebecca, a teenaged chemist, uses ungodly weapons too. Then...looses them all. The Outbreak characters use a variety of guns, even the characters that have no obvious experience with weapons.
Personally, I'm OK with it. It pushes the boundrary on suspension of disblief, certainly. But most guns and weapons are designed for army grunts to use, so they tend to be as simple as possible and reliable as possible. You don't want a weapon that takes sixty hours of training to use, and takes ten minutes to set up. It's not impossibe that a smart civilian could work out how to use most of them.
The RE games are over the top, sure. The qualifications the cast had in the origional were actually impossible to achieve. You simply couldn't do it by there age. There is simply a certain level of pushing the boundary of suspended belief that you can't go beyond without popping the bubble, and for me, that was Leon's ninja like antics. Yeah, it's potentially possible to do the stuff Leon did. So is putting all the pieces of a computer in a box, shaking it and having an assembled PC come out. It's hard for me to believe that goverment training turned Leon from a rookie cop into someone capable of incredibly complex moves. Which is a shame, as I really like Leon in RE2. But that's my personal issue. Your mileage may well vary.
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Originally posted by Becky's Butt View PostIt's amazing how everything you say shows off what an arrogant twat you are.Originally posted by 5 Minutes View PostI wouldn't say arrogant, more like a lonely pervert ...
I think Jill's Boob is a pretty cool guy. eh makes sense and doesnt arrogant of anything...
Originally posted by Grem View Postthat I'm sure..., I was implying that..., I confirm...
But a quick run down of my counterpoints to what you said:
- All characters in the series do almost the impossible, except that I already said in RE1 & RE2 they seemed "normal." You argue that in RE3 & RECV they start to do the impossible. I agree, that's why I previously said (and I'll type it again so it sinks into your head) in RE1 & RE2 they seemed essentially normal. And if you're going to use RE3 Jill and RECV Chris as examples of those 2 characters doing the impossible, then you need to take your precious Leon and examine his feats in RE4. Oh no, then your point isn't valid!!!
- Claire carrying a knife. It seems to be something she does to imitate her older brother. Wow, so farfetched! And she was riding a motorcycle, alone, on a night drive (for who knows how many miles) to see her brother. Should she not have had any personal protection for a solitary road trip? She is a 19-year-old girl after all. But nice try on your argument. Maybe you thought she was going to philosophy class? (Oh, and nice backpedal from your initial assessment that she was a "master knife user" to "no college students carry knives on their vest." What's your next shift in stance going to be?)
- Leon gets hurt in RE2 and has flaws and is the most believable...blah, blah, blah. Let's see, Chris and Jill can be hurt and/or poisoned in RE1. Jill is infected in RE3. So there goes your theory about Leon being the only character to get hurt. (And for believability purposes, even if it is only a gameplay mechanic: recovering from poisoning > recovering from gunshot wound to the chest.) As for flaws...Rebecca is a scared, nearly helpless character in RE1 (timidness); Barry goes against his better judgment and works with Wesker out of fear for his family's safety (selfishness); Jill goes along with Barry even though he's acting strangely (poor judgment/cluelessness); Chris is sometimes dumb as rocks in RE1 (retardedness); etc. They're all flawed too! Richard dies via Yawn or Neptune in RE1...therefore I confirm he's the most believable, relatable, and ordinary protagonist in the entire series.Last edited by Jill's Boob; 09-24-2010, 11:25 AM.
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Yeah, the Claire intro to Code: VERONICA was a crowning moment of failure. It was entirely worthy of mockery. The only plus to it was that it got a good chunk of the awful out of the way with nice ans fast. The love sub-plot is still there though...
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Originally posted by Scream View Post...Maybe if they didn't put giant walking statues in the game it could of been taken a tiny bit more seriously.
LOL Seriously, when are people gonna learn? The moment Capcom put DIJ in a RE game... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! Anything. He's a damn mouse that writes a diary for fucks sakes.
At this point even freakin Tofu makes perfect sense.Stuff to remember: Avoid forums if you're having a bad day.
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Originally posted by Scream View PostWell after RE5 I would of thought this was obvious. But he was responsible for RE4 so it's his own fault I guess. Maybe if they didn't put giant walking statues in the game it could of been taken a tiny bit more seriously.
Plus any chance the series had to be taken seriously was shot in the head with Code Veronica.Last edited by Becky's Butt; 09-30-2010, 12:18 AM.
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