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  • #16
    Originally posted by Prime Blue View Post
    These are still just put together by employees from Studio BentStuff, Enterbrain and Karitajian, and thus don't go beyond anything shown in the English guidebooks. Unless one of the writers comes out and says that CAPCOM provided them with all production notes, it is all just information deduced from the games. Nice to read, but little more than that.
    And the fact that the first Archives (which was 100% information taken from the guidebooks released up until then) was used by the subsequent development teams as the base for all of the information related to the series after it was released doesn't mean anything? That information exclusive to the books suddenly popped up in future games was a coincidence or they got lucky? As I recall, the majority of the files in UC and DC are just virtual copy-and-paste jobs from Archives. Who they were put together by is largely irrelevant when it comes to the information contained within, on top of being personally endorsed by CAPCOM (when no such relationship exists with English guidebooks by any stretch of the imagination, BradyGames and Prima do what is known as "talking shit").

    Just because we don't have them coming out and saying (honestly now, that's a cheap cop-out because you know it will never happen) that they provided them with production notes doesn't mean they're irrelevant or simply deduced. The design notes for the characters and enemies in BH3 were published unaltered in the Biohazard 3 Complete Conquest guide, for example. To even try and say they might not have access to the material when it's extremely clear that they do is pretty bleh.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by News Bot
      And the fact that the first Archives was used as the base for all of the information related to the series after it was released doesn't mean anything? As I recall, the majority of the files in UC and DC are just virtual copy-and-paste jobs from Archives. Who they were put together by is largely irrelevant when it comes to the information contained within, on top of being personally endorsed by CAPCOM (when no such relationship exists with English guidebooks). Just because we don't have them coming out and saying (honestly now, that's a cheap cop-out) that they provided them with production notes doesn't mean they're irrelevant or simply deduced. The design notes for the characters and enemies in BH3 were published unaltered in the Biohazard 3 Complete Conquest guide, for example. To even try and say they might not have access to the material when it's extremely clear that they do is pretty bleh.

      Just because we don't have them coming out and saying (honestly now, that's a cheap cop-out because you know it will never happen) that they provided them with production notes doesn't mean they're irrelevant or simply deduced. The design notes for the characters and enemies in BH3 were published unaltered in the Biohazard 3 Complete Conquest guide, for example. To even try and say they might not have access to the material when it's extremely clear that they do is pretty bleh.
      Speculation, no way to know that. The only indication we have the first Archives book can't be utterly dismissed is an RE5 developer having the book on his desk. But that just isn't proof that all random bits and bobs slapped together by Japanese journalists over the course of a decade are worth anything more than random bits and bobs slapped together by English journalists. Heh, for all we know, they could have used the book for the birthdates...
      The guidebooks are nice to read, but nothing more than that. This doesn't mean that they only contain wrong information, it's just that there is no way to know where it came from. The company provides concept art, but that has nothing to do with scenario drafts. Information in the guidebooks could be made up, could be not. I think I remember you changing your mind on that supposed Plaga plothole several times based on different guidebook passages. You can of course fully rely on that information, but don't be surprised when the next publication completely crushes the previous explanations. It's all just theorizing, and a pretty big waste of time. Primary sources are the only thing to be considered reliable, and even those contain errors. That's because it is a game series, not historical science.

      Originally posted by News Bot
      (which was 100% information taken from the guidebooks released up until then)

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      As I recall, the majority of the files in UC and DC are just virtual copy-and-paste jobs from Archives.
      You sound as if you wrote it yourself. ;)

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      • #18
        Information in the guidebooks could be made up, could be not. I think I remember you changing your mind on that supposed Plaga plothole several times based on different guidebook passages.
        Just once, when Archives II provided the real answer. The first translation wasn't very good, and from what I recall, you never bothered translating it yourself to correct. ;)

        You sound as if you wrote it yourself. ;)
        Lol no. Do you own any of them? Take a look and compare them to Archives. Same with the files.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by News Bot View Post
          Lol no. Do you own any of them? Take a look and compare them to Archives. Same with the files.
          Be more specific and I might.

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          • #20
            This may sound like a Ada fanboy talking, but I was always hoping that it was Ada that was the assassin that killed Suzuki. I was hoping that she would somehow turn up in the game. Only for my hopes to be dashed. I was very intrigued by the updates to that site, I checked that damn thing everyday like it was religion, hoping to see something new.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Agent_Wong View Post
              This may sound like a Ada fanboy talking, but I was always hoping that it was Ada that was the assassin that killed Suzuki. I was hoping that she would somehow turn up in the game. Only for my hopes to be dashed. I was very intrigued by the updates to that site, I checked that damn thing everyday like it was religion, hoping to see something new.
              If I remember right, Ada is Chinese. I don't think a Japanese company would ever give a Chinese character a Japanese codename – that just wouldn't go well with them being able to actually tell the two races apart. ;)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Prime Blue View Post
                Be more specific and I might.
                I honestly don't know where to begin. As an example, the 'Select Police Force' thing is taken from the BH3 Complete Conquest guide, but it's really the 'Raccoon S.W.A.T.', select police force is a description in the guide rather than a name. All of the character and enemy descriptions are taken virtually unchanged from the guides, as is the timeline (Archives' timeline, which is the basis for the BH5 timeline, was taken from the CVX guide, minus the footnotes).

                There's tons more, but I'd need to go over each individual book again, haha. I might make a topic about it in the future and list them.

                Also, is it confirmed in any source that Ada is Chinese? I can't quite remember.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                  I honestly don't know where to begin. As an example, the 'Select Police Force' thing is taken from the BH3 Complete Conquest guide, but it's really the 'Raccoon S.W.A.T.', select police force is a description in the guide rather than a name. All of the character and enemy descriptions are taken virtually unchanged from the guides, as is the timeline (Archives' timeline, which is the basis for the BH5 timeline, was taken from the CVX guide, minus the footnotes).
                  No, I meant the copy-pasted Archives files in the Chronicles games.

                  Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                  Also, is it confirmed in any source that Ada is Chinese? I can't quite remember.
                  One character in the drama album guesses either Chinese or Taiwanese. Given the stereotypical surname, she's probably Chinese. Unless she really is the master spy we are led to assume and took on a Chinese surname to conceal her Taiwanese roots (plot twist!).

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Agent_Wong View Post
                    This may sound like a Ada fanboy talking, but I was always hoping that it was Ada that was the assassin that killed Suzuki. I was hoping that she would somehow turn up in the game. Only for my hopes to be dashed. I was very intrigued by the updates to that site, I checked that damn thing everyday like it was religion, hoping to see something new.
                    If I remember correctly, beta art for Excella was shown shadowed as a sort of reflection in the screen. So no, the assassin wasn't Ada.
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                    • #25
                      No, I meant the copy-pasted Archives files in the Chronicles games.
                      I don't have the Japanese files, but the English ones for the enemies and characters are virtually all just shortened from Archives. It's late and I don't really have the energy to go through every page of Archives, so you'll just have to trust me on this one haha.



                      We're having the BH4/BH5 enemy profiles in Archives II translated by the end of the month, so I'll get back to you on if they're the same as the ones in the Kaitai Shinsho guides.

                      Also 'Ada Wong' is confirmed to be a simple alias. But apart from that, isn't she only stated as being 'Asian'?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Prime Blue
                        As far as I remember, Chris is 25 in both Resident Evil and CODE:Veronica and there never was a concrete age stated for the "Umbrella's End" scenario.
                        It's stated that Chris is 30 on the character selection screen of UC for the Umbrella's End chapter ;-)
                        Therefore, it's impossible for Chris to be 32 during Lost In Nightmare and 35 during RE5.

                        Anyway, just as it was stated before, RE5 was meant to take place in 2008, but Capcom didn't bother to change the ages of their character, simple as that.

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                        • #27
                          So where can I find this? I have no idea what your talking about and its not on the Project Umbrella site. Why keep it a secret from other fans? If I knew something you guys didnt I'd be the first to share it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by CrimsonElder View Post
                            So where can I find this? I have no idea what your talking about and its not on the Project Umbrella site. Why keep it a secret from other fans? If I knew something you guys didnt I'd be the first to share it.
                            The reason you can't find it is because it's not available on Prime Blue's website anymore. However, we still have all the reports and important files on the site. Just look under "Supplemental Material -> Translations -> BSAA Website". We don't withhold or hide things on Project Umbrella.
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                            • #29
                              Are you sure it's under Supplemental Material? I cant find Translations under there.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by CrimsonElder View Post
                                Are you sure it's under Supplemental Material? I cant find Translations under there.

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