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  • #61
    I see you went for a mix pick it apart, quote out of context and ignore it.
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    • #62
      Newsbot : Come on, after 20-21 years old you most generally stop growing. You even start losing centimeters when you reach your 40's or so.

      6 or 7 cm taller after 30 years old is ridiculous.

      Again, my anger is not about how they are taller, but how they keep changing things for no reason. I want coherence with the characters. I may be the only one to get angry over such minor details but I'm like that.

      And no, I didn't know why people used feet and inches, because it's never used in my country (on a daily basis, at least).
      Last edited by Grem; 03-16-2011, 08:05 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KylieDog View Post
        I see you went for a mix pick it apart, quote out of context and ignore it.
        Oh go fuck yourself and cry more. Go find that source while you're at it.

        Come on, after 20-21 years old you most generally stop growing. You even start losing centimeters when you reach your 40's or so.

        6 or 7 cm taller after 30 years old is ridiculous.

        Again, my anger is not about how they are taller, but how they keep changing things for no reason. I want coherence with the characters. I may be the only one to get angry over such minor details but I'm like that.

        And no, I didn't know why people used feet and inches, because it's never used in my country.
        Actually, exercise and nutrition promotes minor height growth in adulthood. An increase in flexibility can also lead to lengthening of the bones and skeletal structure. A simple change in posture (and thus, straightening of the spine) can also bump a person's height up. Again, it's not impossible. Maybe if they grew an inch then it'd be a little weird, but centimeters in that amount of years is nothing.

        There are even exercises for increasing height: http://www.walktallshoes.com/grow-taller-exercises.html

        (I should also point out that it's a video game series. Adding a few measly centimeters to the height of characters is just a way of showing that they've changed physically. Again, it is a VERY minor issue.)
        Last edited by News Bot; 03-16-2011, 08:15 PM.
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        • #64
          Ok, maybe there's way to get taller. I don't know. But I don't understand, you said that if they grew one inch it'd be wierd, but they did, didn't they?

          I don't really know how it works in inches, but I recall for example Wesker being 6' in RE1 and 6'3'' in RE5. That makes 3 inches taller, right?
          Last edited by Grem; 03-16-2011, 08:17 PM.

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          • #65
            Wesker's height in Biohazard is 183cm and his height in Biohazard 5 is 190cm. Still just a 7cm increase.

            EDIT: Wait I was thinking of something else there hahaha. Yeah you're sort of right. Brain melted and just rebooted. @_@ Disregard the inches. My mind somehow confused the correlation between inches and cm with cm and mm because I was thinking of 10 inch increases. Fuck me. This is what happens the moment you interchange different measurement standards at once, haha.

            Still, very minor and acceptable increases.
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            • #66
              Well, that's the problem when you try to make convertions with two different units, it always result in a mindfuck lol

              Still, I'm kind of stubborn and wouldn't change my mind on that.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Grem View Post
                Well, that's the problem when you try to make convertions with two different units, it always result in a mindfuck lol

                Still, I'm kind of stubborn and wouldn't change my mind on that.
                Well I guess you're entitled to that, but factually there's no standing problem with it. Wesker's increase is a bit bizarre, though. He generally looks a lot more slender in BH5 compared to his other appearances.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Grem View Post
                  First of all, I like the remote Desktop and the Adam blog and I don't think they contradict anything.
                  Secondly, I don't think 2008 "fits" better as a whole, but just regarding the characters. You guys choose to believe whatever you want, I don't force anyone to embrace my vision.

                  But for me, in fiction just like in real life, The characters and their information are set in stone. They do not grow magically, they do not loose 1 year. I keep an overal coherent vision regarding the characters in my mind. It's not just a matter of "two digits" error, it's a matter of coherence. Then fine, 2009 is just 4 digits, don't you agree? Nope.

                  So, when they choose to make Chris 4cm taller or 1 year younger than he's supposed to be, it does not work. It's been more than 10 years that the characters kept coherent evolution regarding those matters and then RE5 completely fuck that up for no reason. I simply call that bullshit and nonesense, so if you want to mindlessly agree with any information labelled as "official" then it's your problem.
                  I'm very much into character development into fiction (even though RE is a bit weak in that department) and that's why I want it to be consistent and when I see the idiocy of RE5 it simply pisses me off. Hopefully, I was pretty clear, now.
                  That's all well and good but why do you not for a second believe that Capcom may simply have just made an error with the character ages? Why are the ages and height so important as to overrule a host of supplemental stuff that explains over 70% of the game's plot?
                  There are mistakes in game. Remember Umbrella Chronicles saying Umbrella was formed in 1963? RE0 Marcus was killed 20 years ago and not ten? Etc etc. Different versions tell us different things and we have to use the source books like Archives to sort it all out. But if you are willing to ignore all this because you refuse to see an obvious error on screen then you are going to be all over the place with regards to plot and your vision, no disrespect, is wrong, but that's down to you at the end of the day.

                  A few years back I used to be a big advocate of Marcus being killed in 1978 as opposed to 88. The evidence just made more sense for it to be in 78. That was my vision and that was that. But over time I came to realise that I was cheating myself because like it or not 'my version' was wrong and I wanted to experience the story 100% correctly, regardless of the events and dates I disagreed with.

                  Originally posted by KylieDog View Post
                  The day/month dated files all run up to the July-Sept time gap which fits Jills age limits, the reaper scenerio dated as May where they were just discovered but never followed up on and just left loose in the missile area makes better sense if it was more recently before RE5 takes place, reapers left loose for almost a year seems unlikely.

                  Additionally from the same file it seems they were already doing test loads for Uroboros which when leaked caused the Reapers, if Uroboros was done then why did Wesker not launch close to then, why wait 10 more months (if RE5 was March 2009), it doesn't make sense to wait with no reason which again favours the July-Sept timeframe.

                  Chris remarks the medicine used on the Nypidia tribe was still fresh in smell or recent, I forget the exact quote but the village youth journal was wrote in April which if RE5 is 2008 would be more recent and in line with the comment, to expand on this the Type 3 plaga file says more follow up tests would be needed to fix the problem but since we never see evidence of this in the game you would presume they didn't get the chance to again favouring a smaller timeframe between the date fo the file and RE5. The idea of them all running loose so close to the oil factory with all the employess for almost a year (if was 2009) with no one commenting seems a bit off too, the village youth obviously reads/writes english so where is he learning that if they are isolated enough to be unnoticed for so long?

                  There are no files in the game that are dated June-March (if leading up to March 2009) which seems rather odd, 10 months and no files. Again supports 2008 since the files lead up to a July-Sept timeframe.


                  Now none of this is concrete evidence, however it does all support 2008 and backs up the only solid way to to tell the year in the game, the ages (which as Prime Blue showed have been pretty accurate throughtout the series, LiN excluded).

                  Also, from a same source that says 2009 (just to show some of the books to be contradictive within themselves), according to chapter 2 here Jills death is 2 years before RE5, the only time a measurment is said rather than 'some years ago' or whatever is said in the main game.

                  Aside from the last point above all my reasoning for 2008 is from in game material, all the 2009 reasoning is from out of game marketing and promotional material, the problem being with this is that people are just picking and choosing what parts of promotional material to call canon or not for no reason other than if it supports their claim or not, for example the BSAA desktop is but then the live-action videos are ignored, one part of the Bio5 guide is referenced that says 2009 but another part (that I linked to) is ignored. These are not strong arguments when you pick and choose like that. No one is to say the Adam blogspot is canon when they go and ignore other similar promotion like Leon and Claire twittering for Darkside Chronicles promotion. It is all marketing and just because some parts are better done than others does not put it to fans to decide what is canon. Hence why I stick to in-game info for my reasoning.


                  If Capcom really wanted to change it to 2009 instead of 2008 like suggested it wouldn't be hard to edit the ages on the profile images, the only solid evidence of any year. They could have also corrected it in the Gold Edition just supposing it was too late to change the original game when they decided, but didn't.


                  Anyway, I've presented a good argument for 2008, pick it apart, quote out of context, ignore it, agree with it, whatever. I don't feel like continuing this further, make your own opinion based on the evidence.

                  The dated files all fit 2009 perfectly fine as well.

                  The Reapers could easily have been released when the base was infected in 2009 to slow Chris and Sheva down. Don't forget they were let loose on the Tanker as well.

                  Uroboros had many variants before it was perfected. The 2008 version could well have been a prototype as files indicate the early versions were too poisonous for humans to be effective.

                  The Tricell tents next to the village and the smell of disinfectant is the 'follow up tests'. Type 3 was due to go on the black market along with Type 2 in 2009 after the field tests had been completed. The village is isolated in the marshlands and well away from populated areas, the perfect place to conduct a long running illegal test yes?

                  The lack of dated files for those months doesn't really prove anything. RE4 was in Autumn 2004 yet there was no dated files in the build up.

                  The book is referring to Chris when he says 'a while back' I received some Intel that my old partner could still be alive. That could easily be months ago.

                  Leon and Claire's tweeting was dismissed simply because they cannot live tweet on events that took place in 1998 and 2002. Had they been tweeting an upcoming mission at a near time just as Adam's Blog did, then I wouldn't have a problem accepting it, although admittedly the notion of them using twitter for such a purpose is rather ridiculous.
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                  • #69
                    Oh, don't worry, I have no intention to ignore the plot, at all. I've never wanted to, to begin with.

                    It was just the year in relation to the characters in RE5, but I can easily imagine RE5 taking place in 2009, etc...but they have to change their mistakes regarding my favourite characters, that's all lol

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                    • #70
                      Let's try and keep it civil in here guys. I don't enjoy throwing out infraction points. (Or do I?... Dun dun dun)

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                      • #71
                        So Capcom pretty much doesn't check all the files and additional material that they put on other games, when making a new one. --_--

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by chris_survivor View Post
                          So Capcom pretty much doesn't check all the files and additional material that they put on other games, when making a new one. --_--
                          Or minor age mistakes just aren't their top priority when developing a game.
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                          • #73
                            With all those burning questions and contradictions, I wonder why no one so far has put any effort into getting an interview with those responsible for the series. I mean, CAPCOM has been open to these things in the past, having organized some Q&A sessions themselves and letting reHorror speak with Hiroyuki Kobayashi (granted that's not fake). I could imagine if the elite among the community put together questions, it would be a true revelation to get some actual answers from someone in the know.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Prime Blue View Post
                              With all those burning questions and contradictions, I wonder why no one so far has put any effort into getting an interview with those responsible for the series. I mean, CAPCOM has been open to these things in the past, having organized some Q&A sessions themselves and letting reHorror speak with Hiroyuki Kobayashi (granted that's not fake). I could imagine if the elite among the community put together questions, it would be a true revelation to get some actual answers from someone in the know.
                              Things have changed since then and now almost all fan-based requests and whatnot go through Capcom-Unity, which is laughable at its best.
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                              • #75
                                Wasn't Biohaze supposed to get an interview with Jun Takeuchi for winning that RE5 fansite contest or something?

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