Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

[Darkmoon]

And horror is definitely not MIA in BH6. We know that much already from hands-on impressions. But it will probably be a bit limited to one scenario. However, that scenario will be almost as long as BH5, so that makes up for it.

It may come as a surprise to exactly no one that the latter option is a blast and preferable to going it alone in almost every way. But what may come as a shock is that even with a friend at your side in a game set mostly during broad daylight, RE5 still manages to produce plenty of scares.

Again, I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment before.

[News Bot]

Again, I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment before.

I thought the Umbrella Africa Laboratory section was pretty scary. And the Reapers. That's about it though.

[Mr. Spencer]

I thought the Umbrella Africa Laboratory section was pretty scary. And the Reapers. That's about it though.

Ah yes, Reapers. I have dismissed that claim.

[Darkmoon]

The Reapers were only scary, for me at least, in a 'Well shit, here comes another checkpoint reload.' They felt more cheap than terrifying.

The labs were kinda interesting, and I got nervous at the big room o'lickers, but firepower soon prevailed.

[Pikminister]

.... but firepower soon prevailed.

It always does in ACTION games.... doesn't it?

Still, those ORC numbers are not even close to RE5's when it first charted on NPD.

[Dracarys]

EDIT: Here some good news... ORC might've sold well out of the gate, but shooter fans are getting wise about what a pile it is:

Those games have all outsold ORC by a large number, is only natural they are on top. I find it impressive that on first week sales which for Xbox must have been ~200k at the time it even made the list considering some of those games have userbases over 10 million.

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone, people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play. Even RE5 haters usually admit the co-op was fun. Revelations proves it is not the RE name that sells, 3DS consoles are topping the charts in sales yet nobody cares about Revelations despite reviewing well and clearly being a well made game with decent production values, unlike ORC. Funny fact: RE5 sold more copies last week than Revelations did.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also, when UC released rail shooters barely featured on Wii, after that became a hit everyone started releasing rail shooters and it even became a joke that any 'popular' game series released on Wii would be a rail shooter version, by time DSC released the market for them was long tired.

[Mr. Spencer]

Nice to see people still playing Reach.

[Smiley]

Those games have all outsold ORC by a large number, is only natural they are on top. I find it impressive that on first week sales which for Xbox must have been ~200k at the time it even made the list considering some of those games have userbases over 10 million.

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone, people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play. Even RE5 haters usually admit the co-op was fun. Revelations proves it is not the RE name that sells, 3DS consoles are topping the charts in sales yet nobody cares about Revelations despite reviewing well and clearly being a well made game with decent production values, unlike ORC. Funny fact: RE5 sold more copies last week than Revelations did.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also, when UC released rail shooters barely featured on Wii, after that became a hit everyone started releasing rail shooters and it even became a joke that any 'popular' game series released on Wii would be a rail shooter version, by time DSC released the market for them was long tired.

Spin offs are not as big as the main sequels when it comes to RE. Frankly RE4 ported on the Wii did a much better job than any of the Chronicles games. And I'd have rather seen another game using those Wii mechanics (in similar vein to RE5 on PS move) rather than using the Wii for rail shooters.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for the bugs. At best I can say RE6 should be bug free with the amount of resources it has so it's got that going for it. Would be nice if the single player experience turned out like Revelations. As long as we're getting a forced co-op buddy it would help if they didn't interfere with the game play portion too much. Only make them a necessity to fight and survive as long as another player is controlling them.

[[STARS]TyranT]

Playing Resident Evil 5 not using the upgrade feature the game offers is a much better way of going through the game, you'll fear the Lickers later when your ammo is low and your only doing miniscule damage to them.

[News Bot]

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone

Gun Survivor sold moderately well. Because it was Resident Evil. Same with the other sub-par entries in the series. Revelations isn't selling very well due to poor marketing and the fact that it's on the 3DS.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also

Congrats but that's how it is. People were expecting something good out of UC after the performance of BH4 (which was immensely popular even after several years once it was released on the Wii). They didn't get it, so they didn't get the sequel to a sub-par game.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for the bugs.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for being a sub-par game.

[Pikminister]

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone, people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play.

You can call it whatever you like, but the fact is ORC sold like it did because of the RE name on the box & coming out on the two consoles where "people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play". If that game lacked that brand name and had been called what it actually is: "Generic shooter with piss-poor AI and decent co-op" it would've flopped. Even on a console where, again, "people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play".

Revelations proves it is not the RE name that sells, 3DS consoles are topping the charts in sales yet nobody cares about Revelations despite reviewing well and clearly being a well made game with decent production values, unlike ORC. Funny fact: RE5 sold more copies last week than Revelations did.

The only thing Revelations sales prove is that once again Capcon-Unity went with the lousy "word of mouth" strategy that Sven stands by (he recently was asked about the lack of PR for Revelations and he regurgitated the same "word of mouth" baloney as doing the trick for him). And such a strategy is foolish considering that the 3DS barely is a 1 year old system with 5 million users. With the vast majority of them either not familiar with the Resident Evil brand name or with different taste in games (they buy mainly Nintendo IP's only).

Considering the situation with the 3DS limited user base & Capcom's refusal to spend a dime promoting it, Revelations was NOT proof of anything related to the RE brand name. And you can hardly compare the chances of a RE game having an impact on a system with 5 million users to how a RE game would fare on 2 consoles with 60+ million users each. Using some perspective helps in cases such as this one.

Besides, Revelations sales are not bad considering the situation. And since that game is considered among the games to own in the 3DS library of games, it's future is rather bright. The more people that buy a 3DS, will eventually give Revelations (the demo at least) a swing. And hopefully, give the game the much needed legs for the rest of the system's lifecycle. A price drop near Christmas would also be a big help.

[Smiley]

In a way you can say that for most RE games I'm afraid. The franchise has branched off in so many directions that we're beyond the point of inserting a game play format into the Resident Evil brand. All we really need are some dungeon crawlers now.....

Sometimes it's just a matter of the game not caught up enough to others like it. If not for the Resident Evil relation then a game like RE5 which was not as redefined probably wouldn't have done as well as it did. Especially when Gears of War excelled in that type of co-op based game play.

So it's really kind of a moot point. Capcom may care about the sales, but fans know what kind of games they like and whether a Resident Evil version of that met their satisfaction or not be it spin off or main sequel.

[Dracarys]

The only thing Revelations sales prove is that once again Capcon-Unity went with the lousy "word of mouth" strategy that Sven stands by (he recently was asked about the lack of PR for Revelations and he regurgitated the same "word of mouth" baloney as doing the trick for him). And such a strategy is foolish considering that the 3DS barely is a 1 year old system with 5 million users. With the vast majority of them either not familiar with the Resident Evil brand name or with different taste in games (they buy mainly Nintendo IP's only).

Considering the situation with the 3DS limited user base & Capcom's refusal to spend a dime promoting it, Revelations was NOT proof of anything related to the RE brand name. And you can hardly compare the chances of a RE game having an impact on a system with 5 million users to how a RE game would fare on 2 consoles with 60+ million users each. Using some perspective helps in cases such as this one.

Besides, Revelations sales are not bad considering the situation. And since that game is considered among the games to own in the 3DS library of games, it's future is rather bright. The more people that buy a 3DS, will eventually give Revelations (the demo at least) a swing. And hopefully, give the game the much needed legs for the rest of the system's lifecycle. A price drop near Christmas would also be a big help.

Not to be rude but you're posting a lot of crap here.

Revelations got lots of advertising, here is a UK TV ad that was played a lot around and before release. Extended UK advert, Netherlands, Australia, France teaser, France full, Japan, Spain, US and so on. Plus there was also the viral campaign on the web and plenty of gaming sites ran banner adverts around the time. Nintendo was in charge of advertising and gave it a pretty big push, even gave it limited run special cases for first orders.

The 3DS has been the top selling piece of gaming hardware since the price cut, it has around 15-16 million userbase now. Lot of people who owning and are buying 3DS consoles every week, lot of people not caring about a high quality RE game.

RE5 just outsold it in weekly charts, where is RE5s current advertising?

[TheBatMan]

Not really a fair comparison though is it?

Your saying the 3DS has a userbase of 15-16 million and not many of them like Resident Evil, fair enough. But the PS3/XBOX 360 crowd has what, 80-90 million userbase?

Considering the main consoles have roughly five times as many users as the 3DS and you can get a game like Resident Evil 5 for about £10 now, what's the big deal that it outsells Revelations? Perfectly logical if you ask me when going with those figures. Plenty of hardcore Resident Evil fans exist out there that would love a copy of Revelations but refuse to shell out for a 3DS jut to get it, so what chance has it got for the casual fan base?

If Revelations were out on the home consoles, the sales would be handsome, no doubt about it.

Resident Evil continues to sell because of the brand, simple as that. How many squad shooters are available on PS3/360? There mut be dozens, and of far better quality than Op Raccoon City, yet people have obviously been buying it. Can you truly believe that if Op Raccoon City was unrelated to Resident Evil it would be the highest selling game bar Mass Effect 3 and Fifa Street considering the quality of the final product?

[Dracarys]

Totally fair comparison.

REmake/0 both sold far better than Revelations in the same amount of time and the GC had a smaller userbase when they released. Same with Dreamcast and CV. In contrast PS2 sold ridiculous amounts of consoles yet didn't produce RE sales like RE5 has. The RE name is only bigger since back then which casts an extra big shadow over Revelations poor sales. Size of userbase only matters in extremely small numbers when it comes to sales and 3DS is past that as a smaller userbase GC proved.

Most of the people buying RE5 now are likely new console buyers, people who owned 360 or PS3 for years will have long bought it if wanted it in 99% of cases. So given that 3DS is currently the top selling hardware weekly and it has far far less worthwhile games making Revelations a shining beacon...why is it not selling better than the old RE5, or ORC. Everything favours Revelations, growing userbase, lack of competition from other games, production values and review scores far above ORC, starring character popularity.

It is pretty evident that the RE name even with all the benefits behind it is not the main sales drive. Gameplay is, that is why ORC has already sold better, because people like the gameplay and game type. ORC haters need chew and swallow that bitter pill. The more it is claimed ORC sells on RE name the more the point is self defeating because of Revelations.