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  • So because Capcom was lazy with their canon it's excusable for Umbrella Chronicles to pick pieces of canon from it. Just laying that out there for the absurdity.

    I mentioned Jill's age and the number of issues with UC only to prove a point. Capcom makes mistakes. Glaring mistakes. Whether they're important to you or not is pretty irrelevant. They can botch up dates, ages and events. So it's clear that if you're going to be dismissive about ORC you might want to take a step back and look at your canon again. It has flaws. You can admit to them and you can dismiss them over trivial things like laziness or being official games. But they still exist, and every fan knows you're better off playing the original games to get the real solid experience of what happened. (Actually I can't say the same for RE1 because again that game has no canon ending to it )

    Frankly I don't care who considers it canon or uncanon. This is a game pinning you in the role of Umbrella villains in arguably one of the best scenarios of the timeline. It has the same goals as the other spin offs. New way to play RE to attract new fans and have a new experience for the older ones. But unlike UC where they re-tell a story and botch it up you have a game that re-tells a story and encourages you to go wild and make your stamp on it. I mean you're U.S.S. operatives taking on the baddest of the bad in monsters and also going against those meddling kids. Are you going to play this as delicately as you can to not mess up the timeline or are you going to be doing some hardcore villain shit? I already know what I have in store.

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    Last edited by Smiley; 11-09-2011, 09:49 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Smiley View Post
      Are you going to play this as delicately as you can to not mess up the timeline or are you going to be doing some hardcore villain shit? I already know what I have in store.
      HARDCORE VILLAIN SHIT. Oh yes. That's my main motivation to get this game.

      "I miss the days when we just cared how cool an enemy was rather than critiquing and analyzing everything to death." - Shield Key

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      • Just a reminder - if the point of you posting is to wind someone else up...don't. I will be generous with the Infractions from here on in. I don't do third warnings.

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        • No needling here Darkmoon. We can agree to disagree on the matter.

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          • I wasn't aiming at you this time Smiley. From what I can see you have a legitimate personally view point you're explaining and backing up. Without trying to wind up other members. Which is nice to see.

            So you're safe...this time.

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            • I mentioned Jill's age and the number of issues with UC only to prove a point. Capcom makes mistakes. Glaring mistakes. Whether they're important to you or not is pretty irrelevant. They can botch up dates, ages and events. So it's clear that if you're going to be dismissive about ORC you might want to take a step back and look at your canon again. It has flaws. You can admit to them and you can dismiss them over trivial things like laziness or being official games. But they still exist, and every fan knows you're better off playing the original games to get the real solid experience of what happened. (Actually I can't say the same for RE1 because again that game has no canon ending to it )
              You're totally right. Alexander's Memo says that the t-virus existed almost a full decade before it actually did, for example. We still don't know if this was an error or a left-over from the old scenario where the "T-Virus" was actually the Epsilon-type of the "Clay Virus" (which was renamed as "Progenitor Virus" for CV onwards) which was discovered in the 60s.

              We don't deny any mistakes exist. It's a big series with a lot of inter-connecting scenarios and a lot of different writers. The only complaint I personally have over ORC is that the writers are making it very clear that they are not conducting basic research despite insisting they're so awesome. Nemesis in particular, information taken from a bootleg Chinese guidebook (which they didn't even fully read) + a nonsensical change to "condemned guy lol" which would make the creature's existence impossible since normal human hosts die. Information regarding Nemesis' creation can be found detailed in Biohazard Archives, which is a sourcebook for the series that the Japanese development teams have used in the past. But Slant Six thinks they're too good for it, but gives themselves ridiculous amounts of credit. Hell, a quick reference to Nemesis' origins as a mass produced Tyrant can be found in Umbrella Chronicles. Such ignorance of such a basic fact despite insistence that everything has been nitpicked to perfection just doesn't sit well.

              That's all I'm really saying.
              Last edited by News Bot; 11-10-2011, 08:29 AM.
              PROJECT Umbrella - The BIOHAZARD/RESIDENT EVIL Compendium

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              • I understand that. Since it seems an effort is made though to pass aspects of it off as canon I'm not sure how you'll go about including any of it in your timeline. Perhaps in the end you'll write it all off as a non-canon once you get your hands on it.

                The game will market itself to be awesome in all directions though to make as many people interested as they can. Even if they found a bad source and made an error from it, the idea here is that they tried to make some of it canon for the people who aren't exactly up to screwing around with the timeline. Ironic perhaps.

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                • The problem is that they say that they are including background information and such, such as the Raccoon City mayors and "Operation Watchdog" (the Monitors' mission was never named before), that are interesting to story whores like me, haha. I'd just prefer it not being a big pick-and-choose fest like, for example, Wesker's Report. But it seems that's what the plot of the game will be.
                  PROJECT Umbrella - The BIOHAZARD/RESIDENT EVIL Compendium

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                  • Well i wont buy the game now .. at least not at full price

                    it will only have 19 min of cutscenes ........

                    i bet you this game is only like 4 hours long.... not worth full price .. i was so excited about this game but ....meeh

                    TheGamingLiberty.com: 'The British Board of Film Classification has issued Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City a 15’s certificate due to it’s depictions of strong bloody violence and it’s use of strong language.'

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                    • Maybe they just mean prerendered cutscenes? That wouldn't include in-engine scenes.

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                      • Didn't the last trailer last like 3 minutes? I really doubt there'll be only 19 minutes.

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                        • Yeah I am pretty sure it is 19 minutes of prerendered cutscenes.
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                          • hmm okay you got me more calm now
                            i really thought it was 19 min for all the cutscenes.

                            that wouldent have been enough at all.

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                            • haha, N4G is still going?

                              Originally posted by rehunk88 View Post
                              that wouldent have been enough at all.
                              Why not? Want to back that up at all?

                              How many minutes cutscenes did L4D have after all?
                              Last edited by Stu; 11-17-2011, 03:53 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by rehunk88 View Post
                                hmm okay you got me more calm now
                                i really thought it was 19 min for all the cutscenes.

                                that wouldent have been enough at all.
                                I wish it was 19 minutes for all of them.
                                PROJECT Umbrella - The BIOHAZARD/RESIDENT EVIL Compendium

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