Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

[Spera01]

I still stand by the fact that with every trailer I see, my excitement for this game gets lower and lower. I'll still be buying the game of course, but my god, was that trailer trying way to hard. Especially with the awful metal in the background.

[rehunk88]

im sure this game will sell really good :3

[Det. Beauregard]

I still stand by the fact that with every trailer I see, my excitement for this game gets lower and lower. I'll still be buying the game of course, but my god, was that trailer trying way to hard. Especially with the awful metal in the background.

I know, right? There's good metal out there, but that sure as hell wasn't an example of it. These types of slaughter-fest games just love to include angst-ridden music like that to pump up the kiddies.

[Darkmoon]

im sure this game will sell really good :3

Eh, I'd be rather surprised if it did. It has everything going against it. Negative reviews, not enough Resident Evil to appeal to the old school fans (and Capcom has long since driven us to a point where most of us won't buy something on release simply because it has 'Resident Evil' in the title any more) not a good enough action game to draw players away from Call of Battlefield and the like. Exceptionally low production values (seriously, fucking up such basic things as the cars and guns is terrible for a project that has millions spent on it) and, worst of all, Resident Evil 6 is only, what, 8 months away? With Revelations (by all accounts a good game) just released and RE6 not far down the road most fans have the 'RE Itchy' scratched.

Frankly, I can't think of a reason ORC isn't boned. Very few people even seem interested, let alone buying on release.

[rehunk88]

Im so sick of hearing the old school fans xD just be glad they keep making resident evil games ... you sound like the people stuck in the 80s.... ooh the action in movies is not like it was and blabla resident evil will never be as it ones was thats a fact
this game is made as a spinoff just like outbreak was a spinoff

if you are a real resident evil fan you will buy it !

end of story.

if your not buying it then why are you even here ?

[Dracarys]

Eh, I'd be rather surprised if it did. It has everything going against it. Negative reviews, not enough Resident Evil to appeal to the old school fans

I wish people would stop claiming this. There are plenty of 'old school fans' who are looking forward to this. I believe the group you mean are "Those fans stuck in the past" who this isn't even aimed at anyway, though this doesn't stop them spouting doom and how everything is does is crap or stupid, even though the old games did some of it too, totally not a double standard created out of blind hate. It has high pre-orders in the US and based on general trends will do half a million week one in US alone, though as release draws near this estimation will rise.

[rehunk88]

I wish people would stop claiming this. There are plenty of 'old school fans' who are looking forward to this. I believe the group you mean are "Those fans stuck in the past" who this isn't even aimed at anyway, though this doesn't stop them spouting doom and how everything is does is crap or stupid, even though the old games did some of it too, totally not a double standard created out of blind hate. It has high pre-orders in the US and based on general trends will do half a million week one in US alone, though as release draws near this estimation will rise.

I agree with Dracarys 110%

[Darkmoon]

Im so sick of hearing the old school fans xD just be glad they keep making resident evil games ... you sound like the people stuck in the 80s.... ooh the action in movies is not like it was and blabla resident evil will never be as it ones was thats a fact
this game is made as a spinoff just like outbreak was a spinoff

if you are a real resident evil fan you will buy it !

end of story.

if your not buying it then why are you even here ?

No, I won't. Because I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, I'll tell Capcom what I want, and what I want is horror. I'm not asking for a return to tank controls and fixed camera angles. I'm asking for horror. Something that REAL Resident Evil fans remember Capcom at least trying. Something that Resident Evil made it's name with. It's what made Resident Evil famous, allowed it to grow, set it apart in the market and even today, even when they won't make horror games, Capcom slaps a horror theme on the top because they know, know full fucking well, why people buy the series.

Capcom won't listen to REAL Resident Evil fans whining and bitching. Wanna know what they will listen to? My wallet slamming shut because they keep trying to dish up action games. And because I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, I'll keep not buying the fucking games until Capcom puts some Horror back in. I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, and I'll buy a REAL Resident Evil game - not this trivial piece of poorly though out, poorly implemented piece of shit.

And don't bother trying to tell me I'm not a fan because I don't like fucking ORC, OR that I have no right to be here because of it. I'm a Resident Evil fan and I'll talk about what I please here, but I'm bright enough to not buy something just because it's Resident Evil. I won't buy Resident Evil: Barry's Pretty Princess Make Up Party Edition any more than I would if it was Mary Kate and Ashley's Pretty Princess Make Up Party Edition and I hope to God neither would you.

So stop trying to derail the fucking thread by telling me I'm a bad fan because, shock of shocks, I pointed out why this thing has a good chance of flopping despite the fact it managed to get RE tagged on to it when you decided it will sell well.

And as tempted as I am to let some of the other members give there opinion on you and your decision on what makes a true fan (HINT: Agreeing with rehunk) that's the end of this. As per usual, I will delete further off topic conversation. As per usual, I welcome you taking the debate to either private massager, the wall system or even a topic of it's own. As usual, you will likely post again anyway, get 10 infraction points and whine that I'm picking on you because I'm stopping you from further derailing a topic.

[Dark_Chris]

I wish people would stop claiming this. There are plenty of 'old school fans' who are looking forward to this. I believe the group you mean are "Those fans stuck in the past" who this isn't even aimed at anyway, though this doesn't stop them spouting doom and how everything is does is crap or stupid, even though the old games did some of it too, totally not a double standard created out of blind hate. It has high pre-orders in the US and based on general trends will do half a million week one in US alone, though as release draws near this estimation will rise.

Plenty of old school fans?! Yeah sure *roll eyes*....If you judging this by look at the Capcom Unity threads than maybe you are indeed right, but Capcom Unity is a zoo full of retards. Remember that!

No, I won't. Because I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, I'll tell Capcom what I want, and what I want is horror. I'm not asking for a return to tank controls and fixed camera angles. I'm asking for horror. Something that REAL Resident Evil fans remember Capcom at least trying. Something that Resident Evil made it's name with. It's what made Resident Evil famous, allowed it to grow, set it apart in the market and even today, even when they won't make horror games, Capcom slaps a horror theme on the top because they know, know full fucking well, why people buy the series.

Capcom won't listen to REAL Resident Evil fans whining and bitching. Wanna know what they will listen to? My wallet slamming shut because they keep trying to dish up action games. And because I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, I'll keep not buying the fucking games until Capcom puts some Horror back in. I'm a REAL Resident Evil fan, and I'll buy a REAL Resident Evil game - not this trivial piece of poorly though out, poorly implemented piece of shit.

And don't bother trying to tell me I'm not a fan because I don't like fucking ORC, OR that I have no right to be here because of it. I'm a Resident Evil fan and I'll talk about what I please here, but I'm bright enough to not buy something just because it's Resident Evil. I won't buy Resident Evil: Barry's Pretty Princess Make Up Party Edition any more than I would if it was Mary Kate and Ashley's Pretty Princess Make Up Party Edition and I hope to God neither would you.

So stop trying to derail the fucking thread by telling me I'm a bad fan because, shock of shocks, I pointed out why this thing has a good chance of flopping despite the fact it managed to get RE tagged on to it when you decided it will sell well.

And as tempted as I am to let some of the other members give there opinion on you and your decision on what makes a true fan (HINT: Agreeing with rehunk) that's the end of this. As per usual, I will delete further off topic conversation. As per usual, I welcome you taking the debate to either private massager, the wall system or even a topic of it's own. As usual, you will likely post again anyway, get 10 infraction points and whine that I'm picking on you because I'm stopping you from further derailing a topic.

sorry for the (now edited away) double post.

[Darkmoon]

I wish people would stop claiming this. There are plenty of 'old school fans' who are looking forward to this. I believe the group you mean are "Those fans stuck in the past" who this isn't even aimed at anyway, though this doesn't stop them spouting doom and how everything is does is crap or stupid, even though the old games did some of it too, totally not a double standard created out of blind hate. It has high pre-orders in the US and based on general trends will do half a million week one in US alone, though as release draws near this estimation will rise.

Well, as I pointed out to my esteemed colleague above, I'm not exactly asking much. If you feel I'm stuck in the past for simply wanting horror back, then you feel free. It's fair enough that you like it. There are plenty of others, too. But I would put money down that most of the people who've been RE fans for, oh, let's say 10 years will not likely be all that excited about ORC.

As for my complaints about ORC happening in the older games...
1) I don't remember them having weapons and cars from the future.
2) Even when they had significant changes to the norm (Survivor, Gaiden) they still retained many elements of the other games. They didn't change into all out action assault fests.
3) They at least had a crack at being scary, even if the most terrifying thing in Gaiden is the sound track.

That's what I'm ticked off about. That and it doesn't add to the story, only takes away from it (of course, my opinion) for the sake of being able to yell 'Pew pew!' more often.

sorry for the double post.

No worries, it does happen. Next time just edit it away, as I'm about to.

[rehunk88]

Next time dont delete my posts it was a fair post you cant handle it then dont come here and talk about it....(darkmoon)
anyway

This is the future of resident evil capcom found out there is more money in shooters than there is in horror. and we have to live with that.

[Bertha]

As for my complaints about ORC happening in the older games...
1) I don't remember them having weapons and cars from the future.

I can agree with everything else, but this. I'm sorry, but I also don't remember having the technology to build cities like Terragrigia in 2004 (earlier since if I remember correctly it took 11 years to construct). There are so many sci-fi/highly advanced tech in the series that simply don't make sense to bitch about a game that obvisouly isn't trying to reflect the old games. Look at all the underground facilities and their tech. Did we really have any of that in 98? Maybe we did, maybe we didn't. It's a stupid argument to bitch about "Oh that's a Hummer 2! THIS GAME IS HORRIBLE BECAUSE THAT ISN'T ACCURATE!" It's like saying the games have lost their sense of realism. Newsflash: the games were never realistic to begin with, and if you think they once were, you're completely dillusional. People are tearing down Slant Six, but Capcom doesn't really seem to give a flying fuck about what gets created either. They've had ample opportunity to fact check the game and say "Hey yeah no....sorry but that's not actually anything we created, so take it out."

I'm still confused as to why people think OpRac was supposed to be something other than an action shooter, and continue to bitch about it. If I wanted to play horror, I'm not going to be playing through a modern RE title. Hell...I'm probably not going to play any RE title if I want horror. OpRac is a spinoff to simply make more money and draw more potential buyers, and most people seem to think it's not going to sell well anyway. You all should be thankful that this game looks to be such shit, with so many "fans" distancing themselves from it. If it flops, you'd think you would be one step closer to making Capcom realize this is not what we as a fanbase want from the series.

[Dark_Chris]

Bertha: Now you are wrong. Just take a look at Dubai! They built whole islands with skycrapers on them. Terragrigia isn't that much unbelievable.

[Darkmoon]

Next time dont delete my posts it was a fair post you cant handle it then dont come here and talk about it....(darkmoon)
anyway

This is the future of resident evil capcom found out there is more money in shooters than there is in horror. and we have to live with that.

And don't ignore my instructions. You wanna head off topic, fine. You got three whole options.

I can agree with everything else, but this. I'm sorry, but I also don't remember having the technology to build cities like Terragrigia in 2004 (earlier since if I remember correctly it took 11 years to construct). There are so many sci-fi/highly advanced tech in the series that simply don't make sense to bitch about a game that obvisouly isn't trying to reflect the old games. Look at all the underground facilities and their tech. Did we really have any of that in 98? Maybe we did, maybe we didn't. It's a stupid argument to bitch about "Oh that's a Hummer 2! THIS GAME IS HORRIBLE BECAUSE THAT ISN'T ACCURATE!" It's like saying the games have lost their sense of realism. Newsflash: the games were never realistic to begin with, and if you think they once were, you're completely dillusional. People are tearing down Slant Six, but Capcom doesn't really seem to give a flying fuck about what gets created either. They've had ample opportunity to fact check the game and say "Hey yeah no....sorry but that's not actually anything we created, so take it out."

I'm still confused as to why people think OpRac was supposed to be something other than an action shooter, and continue to bitch about it. If I wanted to play horror, I'm not going to be playing through a modern RE title. Hell...I'm probably not going to play any RE title if I want horror. OpRac is a spinoff to simply make more money and draw more potential buyers, and most people seem to think it's not going to sell well anyway. You all should be thankful that this game looks to be such shit, with so many "fans" distancing themselves from it. If it flops, you'd think you would be one step closer to making Capcom realize this is not what we as a fanbase want from the series.

Yeah, I wrote that badly. Futuristic weapons I can cope with. It's that Slant Six are using actual, real guns from the wrong time period and actual, real cars from the wrong time period that's pissing me off. Along with using the wiki for information it speaks of shockingly low production values that are, frankly,terrifying. Capcom has never been perfect, but they usually get details like this right or simply make up a gun.

Honestly, I try not to bitch about ORC too much. It's a shoddy cash in, and frankly I try not to think too much about it. I'm more ticked off with certain members informing me as to what I can and can't post, and who and what makes a true fan. Which is stupid on my part, all things considered. I really should be calmer. But eh. I'll live.

...others may not.

[Smiley]

It will sell because it meets the criteria Capcom and Slant Six are looking for. Co-op to ensure more sales from players and releasing it on consoles and PC. The preorder bonuses are also a nice touch ranging from Raccoon City signs to T-shirts to DLC codes.

The tournaments have gained attention, and the advertising is there.

Frankly Revelations might be a good game, but being on the 3DS is the only drawback for most fans because the hand held itself needed special treatment to make it appealing. They had to make a quick price drop and analog attachment to bring in more sales. That's the only way I got my hands on one and it goes without saying they need to make new games and not rely on re-releases or spin offs.

As you said RE6 is eight months away presumably. I doubt it'll make the November deadline, and even then ORC will likely have a price drop to some degree so people can satisfy their zombie cravings with that game in the meantime. Knowing that RE6 is trying to draw a Call of Duty crowd, you can expect that target audience to at least consider ORC as a gateway to get into the series since it has the elements they're looking for in terms of action and multiplayer.