Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

[Smiley]

I think the fact that I'm not the only one who has pointed out your babble is evidence enough that maybe you might be a little bit wrong, or at the very least cranking up the hyperbole for no other reason than to bitch.

And yes, none of the mainline games are objectively bad. You may not like the particular gameplay style, but they are all well-designed and solid games. And if "a certain user" is referring to me, that would probably be because ORC is exactly what I said it was going to be from the very beginning. There wasn't much to see regarding that game, and in reality, it turned out worse than I ever thought it would. Not sure what you're trying to say there other than the fact that my "rash claims" (what claims?) were totally vindicated in the end. On the other hand, BH6 is a much bigger game made by far more experienced, better and proven developers, and very little has been seen so far, and you like to attack it at every turn for frankly laughable reasons that you've been called out on for by a few people now.

You never used "other people disagree with me" to influence you in the past. Why bother with it now on me? Oh wait. Cause it's ORC and you disagree with me too. Convenient. Although having a user say they agree with me is nice.

I'm sure your standards for objectively determining whether a game is bad or not is just fine and dandy so I'll let that slide and assure you that a "bigger" game doesn't always equate to a better one.

This man.

He gets it.

Even if we were to take out any notion of spin off and main game then my examples are still on the table. Looking forward to Rising doesn't mean I should expect or encourage MGS5 to break from its series' stealth based game play and become an action hack'n'slash. The same of course factors to ORC and RE6 in terms of game design.

I'll be sure to let you guys plug RE6 more because even though ORC is the name of the game for this topic I'd love to know what you are all interested in for this main sequel.

[News Bot]

You were the one who "plugged" BH6. Not one person was talking about it until you decided to bring it up for the sake of showing how negative you are towards it. You got called out on that. Don't throw in hyperbole at every opportunity if you don't want people disagreeing with you.

[AsteroidBlues]

Don't pick on Smiley too much, he's just afraid that RE6 is going to blow his mind when he's already made it public that he'll hate it. If we're not careful, we may drive him to playing RE6 in the closet, hiding from the world and his shame. Don't drive him to that lowly state.

[Smiley]

Being open to the game surprising me is just another way of saying I hate it? I did not know that, but it sounds interesting. Just like plugging a game that I apparently said was bad.

But I love being called out on things I guess I must have said. Meanwhile, I'm still enjoying the irony all around. Until I see a good reason why RE6 is that amazing of a game consider me skeptical. Till then ORC is out and I've seen it deliver as a squad based shooter set in Raccoon City.

[News Bot]

You brought it up out of nowhere, just to say that it is "crippling the franchise". Sorry, but that's not "being open". You're free to backpedal all you want and change your original intention, but that's what you said. You're the only one continuing the argument with really bizarre logic, everyone has pointed out your initial fallacy and accepted whatever you're trying to say. Don't bring up how irrational it is that people are discussing BH6 when you are the one who brought it up for the sake of being negative, not skeptical, outright bitchy over literally nothing. It's getting sad at this point.

[Smiley]

It wasn't out of nowhere I'm afraid. Perhaps if you missed the rest of my post which is not uncommon. Who includes "everyone"? And why are you intent on claiming that I think a sequel I have not yet played is of bad quality just cause it's distanced itself from the main series?


The irony continues with the subject of irrationality, negativity and "bitching". We've seen plenty on your end with ORC. And you seem to have a hard time showing how RE6 is an improvement. Where as ORC shows that even the spin offs of this franchise can be just as successful and amazing if they focus their efforts elsewhere. But yes the RE6 praise seems lost on you as though you don't really know why it's supposed to be a quality title. The amount of people working on it doesn't say it's amazing. All I'm asking for is why you conveniently place the "bitching" and "negativity" to be a problem as soon as a main title like RE6 is brought up?

[News Bot]

Still going at it I see. Your backpedaling was accepted, you can drop it now.

All of my complaints against ORC are and were completely legitimate and happen to be mirrored by the majority. My main gripe with the game was with its storyline and its "canon" status. Not only was I 100% right about it being a non-canon parallel "what-if" spin-off set in an alternative universe, but the director and producer happened to use my exact words, as did another CAPCOM writer. Outside of its purported place in the canon, I didn't even care about the game in general. But thank you for reminding me that I was right from the beginning.

[Smiley]

Mirrored by the majority? Again you seem to fall on that little gem despite trying to use the majority as reason for why ORC is successful, Revelations was not, and why the direction of RE6 is more action oriented. You seem out of whack with mass appeal only suiting you for your convenient needs.

Your canon gripe wasn't needed either as you were essentially freaking over what was a non-canon entry and developed such a way. You held page long arguments over a "canon" status that needn't mattered. No more bitching than the rest.

And here with RE6 you're not showing much reason to give the game praise other than numbers. I implore you to come up with more. Why should someone as I so taken with a spin off action title invest in RE6? Now take that and answer why a someone invested in the RE series before it should jump on board for the direction RE6 is taking. If I'm to understand that you're in favor of it then I must ask why.

[News Bot]

Yes. Mirrored by the majority. You know, the fact that ORC is critically panned and hated by most gamers to the point where its sales shocked most people? Yeah. Not everyone who bought ORC liked it, and the difference in audience between ORC and Revelations is a completely different topic, so why you're trying to bring that up I don't know. One is released on two well-established consoles with massive userbases, with most of the BIO fanbase already installed. The other was released only a month before the more widely available game. Nothing convenient about it, just facts as they are.

My page long arguments were in response to someone devoutly saying the game was canon. I pointed out how they are wrong, nothing more. Precisely what I do in virtually every disagreement. You can look back through this thread if you wish. I didn't just pop up randomly with GRRRR THIS GAME IS CRIPPLING THE FRANCHISE WITH ITS NON-CANONNESSSSS. I'm a fan of most material in the series whether it is canon or not. ORC just happens to be a poor game. That's my opinion, I don't prance around shoving it down everyone else's throat at every single opportunity like you do with BH6. And even when I do provide criticism on ORC, it is all valid and based on something substantial rather than you getting pissy over the lack of fixed camera angles or something.

You came into this topic to attack a game unrelated to the topic and also threw in a cheap insult while you were at it. You were called out on it. Now nobody cares.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your drivel in that post because it seems you are unable to drop something you wanted dropped in the first place.

[Smiley]

I see. I now understand exactly what you mean. And you know what? You're right. ORC is a poor game. One I made a million on.... But poor nevertheless.

RE6 is where it is at. It's canon. And made by many people. Thank you NewsBot. I am wrong. Consider everything I said null and void. I'm in full support of RE6. I'll make my official stance of the game in its topic. Till then....

[REDACTED]

[Canas Renvall]

Alright kiddies, that's enough. No more fighting, it's getting a little out of hand. Stay on topic or I'm going to have to bust out the Infract-o-Ray.

Also, out of pure curiosity, what's the joke with you and ORC making you millions, Smiley? Everyone seems in the know but me.

[Smiley]

There's no fighting. We actually came to a mutual agreement. I was in the wrong on this one. ORC is [REDACTED] and RE6 is a godsend.

[Canas Renvall]

Stop mocking him, you're fooling nobody Smiley. And I mean it to both of you. If I see any more arguing or anything about this, infractions will be handed out.

[Smiley]

No more arguments from me. I'm quite serious. Can a man not have a change of heart? That I "have" to like ORC and "hate" RE6?

[Canas Renvall]

Yes, you can. But the way you're presenting it, at least in that video, seems highly mocking and condescending. Saying people will buy anything with the RE name on it is a bit polarizing, if not insulting. I, for one, didn't buy ORC and I consider myself a fan of the series.