Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

[Dracarys]

still won't turn a human into a plant anytime soon.

REmake does not say they are plants, only you do.

Hmm, lets look at this from a perspective of reality and being sensible.

Is the REmake file saying

A) A virus from a plant is causing a reaction in human tissue cells that is seen in plant cells.

or

B) Lisa is a plant

Gee, which one of these is the more sensible answer.

[News Bot]

REmake does not say they are plants, only you do.

Hmm, lets look at this from a perspective of reality and being sensible.

Is the REmake file saying

A) A virus from a plant is causing a reaction in human tissue cells that is seen in plant cells.

or

B) Lisa is a plant

Gee, which one of these is the more sensible answer.

1) Progenitor Virus came from an arthropod at the time of REmake. You don't seem to be aware that an arthropod is not a plant. Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropod

2) RNA viruses do not contain plant cells.

It's adorable how far you are willing to go to defend nonsense or make shit up, but it's getting tiresome and not one person agrees with you because you are simply incorrect.

[AsteroidBlues]

'Plasmolyzing'?

That doesn't even sound like a real word. I know it is one but damn, it sounds goofier than...something really goofy. Was out in the sun for a few hours so my mind...its plasmolyzing.

So you have a plant brain... Interesting.

I don't see why this argument is still persisting, I think News Bot is right in this matter. Every anomaly in fact that Dracarys has attributed to western localization is indicative of crappy translating, and nothing more. They didn't change these things just to make it easier to understand for western fans, they just fucked up.

[Dracarys]

1) Progenitor Virus came from an arthropod at the time of REmake.

Source? From the man who claims Capcom do not retcon.

[News Bot]

Source?

Saving the full thing for an upcoming editorial, though the first reference to it can be found in the "Inside of Bio Hazard Directors Cut", and again in "Biohazard 2 Prologue of Terrors". (neither are my source, they are just the only ones publicly available)

And I have never once said that CAPCOM never retcon. I have proven that some things simply weren't retcons. Nice generalization and word twisting though. This isn't much of a retcon considering it was relegated to three Japanese books, one beta file and never actually materialized in the games themselves, until CODE:Veronica (with a name change).

[Dracarys]

"Inside of Bio Hazard Directors Cut", and again in "Biohazard 2 Prologue of Terrors".

From the titles of those books sounds like 1997-98 material. What is that 4-5 years prior to REmake? DOesn't really hold any weight to the "Progenitor Virus came from an arthropod at the time of REmake" claim.

[News Bot]

From the titles of those books sounds like 1997-98 material. What is that 4-5 years prior to REmake? DOesn't really hold any weight to the "Progenitor Virus came from an arthropod at the time of REmake" claim.

Hence "first reference". I'm not going to reveal something I'm working on, or my source, just for you.

Nice how you manage to try and find something new to moan about when your arguments get shot down.

[Dracarys]

Sorry but if not gonna show it off then gonna have to go wit RE5 being the first canon reveal of Proginotor origin so REmake fits with it perfectly.

My argument gets shot down? By this fact you refuse to prove? No.

[Drake]

I think what he's trying to establish is that, until after REmake, the T-Virus originally came from arthropods. Of course I'm not trying to put words in his mouth, so don't put too much credit into this post, but that's what I think.

In regards to the whole REmake translation thing, I have to agree with News bot here. It clearly stated in the original Japanese script that the skin tore, which is a far call from their cells undergoing plasmolyses, which is biologically impossible to occur in a human being.

[Vito]

To be fair News Bot I do remember you saying the series didn't have retcons.

[News Bot]

Sorry but if not gonna show it off then gonna have to go wit RE5 being the first canon reveal of Proginotor origin so REmake fits with it perfectly.

My argument gets shot down? By this fact you refuse to prove? No.

Well we have you relying on speculation (which is incorrect) and claiming some biologically impossible nonsense. Sounds like someone who should get exclusive information!

To be fair News Bot I do remember you saying the series didn't have retcons.

Referring to specific things, though. Such as Wesker's revival. Not a sweeping generalization of 16 years of writing, such as the origins of the Progenitor Virus being changed (though people who only play the games wouldn't know it as a retcon), or REmake taking precedence over BH1. Plus, when I likely made said statement, I didn't have the information available to me back then that I do now.

[Dracarys]

It clearly stated in the original Japanese script that the skin tore, which is a far call from their cells undergoing plasmolyses, which is biologically impossible to occur in a human being.

Plasmolysis would cause the tissue to tear, by the english text naming the process it is giving more detail how the tissue tears. Same result, more detail. IN the RE universe a virus from a plant causing this is not even close to a stretch.

WHy is there talk of 'biologically impossible' in the RE series. Have you seen some of the crap it has came out with?

[News Bot]

Plasmolysis would cause the tissue to tear, by the english text naming the process it is giving more detail how the tissue tears. Same result, more detail.

In plant cells. Viruses do not contain plant cells. It is biologically impossible. A cross-species virus (such as Influenza) cannot inherit cells from different species, and it wouldn't cause new hosts to "absorb" cells from old hosts through the virus. It is literally impossible and a glaring example of you not having any idea what you are talking about. Please provide a source

WHy is there talk of 'biologically impossible' in the RE series. Have you seen some of the crap it has came out with?

Doesn't mean you can rewrite the series with a convoluted explanation that defies both reality and fiction in order to suit a mistranslation that the writers don't acknowledge.

[Drake]

Perhaps, but it is also wrong. Plasmolysis cannot occur in human beings. You may refer to the action of skin tearing as "The tissue underwent a tearing akin to plasmolysis in plant cell, as cell activation occurred" but you cannot directly state that "Plasmolyzing of tissue during cell activation" occurred, since such an event is, as I've said, biologically impossible for humans to undergo.

A Wife with a Master's in biology and anatomy is my back up on that.

[Wrathborne]

Eep, this shit looks like its getting real now.

Can we just agree that Slant Six and various translators havens done their job right and move on?