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  • #16
    John (Clemens, I believe?) =/= Robert Kendo, esp. with this new info. They don't even look much alike imo. Kendo is just loosely physically based on the old John design, but they are now distinctly two separate entities as far as I'm concerned.

    And William was transformed in a tyrant to the final battle???
    That's weird...I've always thought he was going to transform into this...
    http://www.bioflames.com/compare/bh2_umbtrain_25.jpg
    That is Birkin. Either there's an unknown tyrant boss we've never seen, or they just used the term tyrant to describe Birkin. I think he's still referring to Birkin. Unless Elza's scenario gets a separate tyrant boss. I would assume Birkin though for now, until/unless new info or media supports a tyrant other than him (yes, I know technically he's a G mutation, not a Tyrant). There's still enough unknown info though to not know for sure.
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    • #17
      I know Kendo and John are different persons, I just refer him as "Kendo Guy".
      And I believe this Birkin is not a Tyrant or refered as Tyrant.

      He said it was an anti-T ammo, not anti-G.
      Maybe this is some old build. As the background found on Trial Edition is different.

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      • #18
        4) Brad Vickers was a coward and sided with Irons in response to S.T.A.R.S., that's why he's still there in BH3.

        Hmm, speaking of that, was Brad ever in the picture where it shows Chris/Jill/Barry arguing with Irons over his desk? Great read.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by alinhoalisson View Post
          I know Kendo and John are different persons, I just refer him as "Kendo Guy".
          And I believe this Birkin is not a Tyrant or refered as Tyrant.

          He said it was an anti-T ammo, not anti-G.
          Maybe this is some old build. As the background found on Trial Edition is different.
          I thought John was supposed to be dead in the Mansion? Would have been interesting to see him kicking around RE2.

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          • #20
            So, the background in the BH2 Erial Edition of Chief Iron's room with "Kendo" sitting at the desk, is that supposed to be John?

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            • #21
              Yes, it's John, the same guy that is on screenshots and the third trailer of RE1.5. When Sherry says "Elza, I found a secret".

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              • #22
                No it's not, it's Robert Kendo's model.
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                • #23
                  After watching this artwork, I thought that there was a huge chance that John was a bad guy/traitor, as he looks like some kind of thug/enforcer. Because he is Elza's supporting character, I thought that he betrays her during the game (a la Barry Burton).
                  But know, in light of this revelation, this artwork makes more sense

                  But wait! Liza's first artworks show an innocent young girl, then some kind of super-spy agent and the finalized artwork display a young woman with an attitude/distrust face. Could it be that both supporting characters ware some kind of bad guys?
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                  • #24
                    Again, the John (Clemens) mentioned in the question is the researcher, Ada's boyfriend from BH1. He is of no relation to the John which aids Elza in her story. Just to clear up any confusion.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                      Again, the John (Clemens) mentioned in the question is the researcher, Ada's boyfriend from BH1. He is of no relation to the John which aids Elza in her story. Just to clear up any confusion.
                      "Again?" There was no original clarification. The question just says "What was the rejected design?" and the info would be presumed to be about BH2/1.5 stuff considering the source and the topic name.

                      Would have to see what question and answer 32 was. Seems odd and confusing he would mention BH1 beta stuff about John from BH1 then one sentence about "zapping mode" version John of 1.5.

                      So the part about John supporting the main character and giving them anti-t-virus ammo to kill the tyrant is from BH1? If so, there's really nothing new about 1.5 in what you posted. The fact John in 1.5 could live or die depending on actions was confirmed long ago by Inflames's source and (I would have thought to be) common knowledge.

                      Two different Johns is confusing!

                      I can see the distinction in the answer reading it over a few times. The first part says he dies at the end, then changes to "zapping mode" version (implying 1.5) and says that John can live or die depending on choices.
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                      • #26
                        Actually, I assume "zapping mode" refers to the version just after 1.5, as there was no zapping feature in 1.5 (this is confirmed in another question). The fact that he uses Ada instead of Lisa seems to imply that this scenario was drawn up shortly after Noboru Sugimura was brought in, but there's also mention of Ada originally meant to show up in the female character's scenario briefly. Personally, I assume that Lisa was a VERY early name and they changed it to Ada somewhere down the line to draw the connection to the original game. He isn't talking about the John that helped Elza at all.

                        The stage configurations are largely unchanged from the current ones. However, the original police station was made ultra modern and had become a regular office building. In addition, you can enter a production line or factory warehouse and there were scenes such as the load-carrying tray for the trailer parked outside. The scenario did not have a zapping system like the present, but a single one. There was a scene where Ada appeared for an instant in the main female character’s scenario, as well as police officer Marvin, who gives you the card key in the police station, being a partner who cooperated as Leon’s senior until the end.
                        From a few other questions, he states that Marvin was meant to be with Leon up until the end (presumably he can live or die, there's also a sub-plot where Marvin is infected, that's where the t-virus vaccine item is from, while the G-virus vaccine would've been for Sherry).

                        The new info is that there was originally meant to be a sub-plot in 1.5 with John, Ada's lover from the first game. He was meant to be a shadowy character helping the main characters to make up for going along with Umbrella. He would have supplied the player with anti t-virus ammo to kill the Tyrant at the end of the game, the same role Ada plays in the final version by dropping the rocket launcher. He could live or die depending on the player's choices.
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                        • #27
                          Well, he tells he supported the main character, wich never happens on Bh1.
                          And they're talking about BH2 facts, like William's infection or if some S.T.A.R.S. members appears.

                          I think he's talking about the real ending.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by alinhoalisson View Post
                            Well, he tells he supported the main character, wich never happens on Bh1.
                            And they're talking about BH2 facts, like William's infection or if some S.T.A.R.S. members appears.

                            I think he's talking about the real ending.
                            He said that he supports the main character in the rejected sub-plot from behind-the-scenes, not the first game.

                            A lot of you have really over-complicated this now, lol.
                            Last edited by News Bot; 05-11-2011, 11:33 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Almost 15 years of Resident Evil 1.5 and the game's still a mistery.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by alinhoalisson View Post
                                Almost 15 years of Resident Evil 1.5 and the game's still a mistery.
                                A lot of the 'mystery' behind 1.5 is nonsense, to be honest. We already know pretty much all there is to know about it. What some people seem to think is that it was a full game and was a lot larger than what we already know, when we already have virtually every piece of information on it possible. Rose-tinted glasses be damned.
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