What would you like to see in resident evil 1.5 demo?

[Black~Crow]

I heard that the demo might exist, but what do you expect to see in it? Many zombies to shoot? play as Leon and have elza as a back up just like in resident evil zero?

What do you think of a fan made resident evil 1.5 demo?

[Darkmoon]

The demo is a lie. Sad, but true. After over a decade if there had been any official release of this sorta, even a run of a few hundred discs, it would have been located and bought long since.

If such a demo had ever made it out, I imagine it would be similar to the other RE Demo's - you play a small selection of rooms near the start of the game, most likely. Since, apparently, Elza and Leon never met in 1.5 you'd most likely play as Leon. Probably end when find the wounded cop whose name I've forgotten temporarily...DJ? Something like that.

No point of a fan made demo - too many people would confuse it with the real thing, and besides...if you're gonna do that you might as well do a full 1.5 conversion

[rehunk88]

Who cares anyway.. its a version you will never see just like resident evil 4s first version.
its.. ideas that got thrown out becuse they dident work.

[Guest]

What about this one ? This looks like a demo. It looks like only Elza is playable if it is Demo.

This pic is from 97 TGS I believe.

[kevstah2004]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXpfN7gTkg

it was playable somewhere else too, irc.

[Darkmoon]

There's the game show demos (plural, I think) but they were never released to the public, and no one seems to have a copy - there's less mention of these than there are of the actual beta.

Who cares anyway.. its a version you will never see just like resident evil 4s first version.
its.. ideas that got thrown out becuse they dident work.

We're a lot more likely to see 1.5 out that Outbreak File #3. And the ideas that didn't work?
Grenades - RE4
Armour - RE4
More Modern Setting - Outbreak, Survivor, Dead Aim, RE5

Yeah. There are obviously issues with 1.5, but take decelerations of it's awfulness with a pinch of salt - if internal politics got things altered no one is going to admit to it, and most of the excuses given for it's crapping don't make sense. For example, it was too close to RE1...with it's modern setting, grenades, armour and Umbrella being destroyed.

I think the most likely explanation is the one where they believed 1.5 would have meant the series ended at RE3, but again, it doesn't entirely work. Umbrella is never take out in the game. RE3 could certainly have gone ahead, with Nemesis being used as damage control, CODE: Veronica and most of the other side games would also need small alterations to there plots...but not much. But that doesn't mean they didn't believe that at the time.

[rehunk88]

hmm darkmoon what was capcom`s reason to start over.. and not release that version ?

[Guest]

hmm darkmoon what was capcom`s reason to start over.. and not release that version ?

I can answer that question. The reason why Capcom scrapped this version was. They felt like it played much like their first game and they thought fans were expecting more.

I like the final BH2 but I would enjoy playing this as well. Capcom could release this as bonus game for 15 anniversary but they won't do cause it looks like they sweard for the life to not release it

[Darkmoon]

Yeah, there are several reasons given by various staff over the year. The two main ones are that 1.5 felt too much like Resident Evil 1...to which they decided to remove several new features such as grenades, armour and a larger variety of zombie types (the Fat Cop zombie, for example, was apparently able to pin you to the ground but was slower than normal) and a more modern setting to be replaced with a building with echoes of the original mansion, even down to it's somewhat illogical design and slightly mad puzzles. In other words, a game much closer to Resident Evil 1. So that one's bollocks.

The other is that the story would have ended the series as trilogy. Again, it doesn't entirely hold water - since we never got to be directly involved in Umbrella's downfall until Umbrella Chronicles the big change in the story, that S.T.A.R.S was initially believed and Umbrella was in the process of collapse during RE1.5 doesn't change the plot much - which means that explanation isn't terribly air tight either. There are certainly plot elements that would have had to change, such as where the UBCS came from, but not a great deal. Since Capcom only just gave us the big battle with Umbrella, well after the fact, it would be fairly simple.

The third explanation, and the one that holds least water for me, is that the game was just crap. There were certainly some poor elements - the RPD's blue theme was somewhat monotonous, in my eyes. But the game was good enough to reach, possibly, anywhere up to 80% completion before being redone. They'd recorded dialogue and had the cutscenes commissioned and completed.

And let's face it - this is Capcom. They thought the Chronicle series was a good idea. They re-use assets all the damned time. They've just released a full price game made up mostly of recycled resources from a mini-game! There are no signs 1.5 approached anything like that level of awful.

No, I think the second is the most likely - they genuinely thought at the time that the serious would be finished if they went with 1.5's story, possibly because of story elements that we don't know. That would have meant the cash cow drying up early, and between the sales of RE1 and the excitement for 2 I think they wanted the cash cow to live a long, long live.

As with most things to do with Capcom, I attribute the game's cancellation to greed. Of course, why it hasn't been released in some form since seems to be pride - several of the developers seem legitimately annoyed that there decisions to redo the game into RE2 has been challenged, as they see it, and I've been given to understand it's pretty much a taboo subject at Capcom HQ with some people.

[P.I.M.P.]

1.5 had more features than 2 that we have

zombies were able to climb up and down, blood would spray on the character and cant memba wat else ther was

1.5 would never come out....i jus hope the mods ppl will make will be sutn lik it....even a new storyline is what i need

[rehunk88]

Thanks darkmoon and gametak3r i kinda feel now that
its okay what they did because re 2 did turn out great as it is
but i feel like its a shame they dident stick to there first idea with re 4 that would have turned out good.

[Zombie_X]

I have always found CAPCOM's excuses to be major BS. I mean wouldn't a sequel that is similar to the first be better? 1.5 seemed to have much better atmosphere to me. RE2 always seemed to be kinda cartoony and too action packed, though I do love RE2. Also having armor/grenades seems more realistic since you are in a police station after all. More zombie types is also a better change IMO and should have been included.

[rehunk88]

and funny same with re 5 if they had made it the way they wanted to first re 5 could have been a amazing game but instead we got yeah what you all have seen by now XD