Resident Evil 6 confirmed...

[News Bot]

I dunno, I don't see where the retarded part comes in. I still hold onto the fact that execution matters a lot when it comes to storytelling in games. You can get away with a lot of things if you pull it off right. I didn't find Lott or Lily annoying in GS, since they showed up like 3 times, and Lott was a pretty interesting character given the whole "superior people" indoctrination. They never gave it much attention though. So they were fine by themselves, but fuck their voices.

Are you saying the older main line games are better because they are more complex? Complexity doesn't really determine whether a story is good or not. Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots is complex. It is still a piece of shit.

Nobody's giving Sugimura more credit than he is due, just saying that they simply aren't that bad and the execution and direction seems to hurt the series storylines more than the scripts. You think a creature with an electrical current is stupid, I pointed out how it's perfectly fine, you still think it's stupid. I personally don't understand your annoyance with that in a series where "genetic experimentation" can cause a salamander or a human to grow to mountain size or someone can have literally no mouth or throat yet still speak clearly... and with a virus that is known to completely destroy the host's brain cells.

I find all of the scenarios enjoyable as a single mythology. I don't view them as much as singular stories. That's probably where we differ.

[REmaster]

True, it's from here.

Hmm, I'm not so good with Japanese but I'll take your word for it lol. Thanks for letting me know, I was starting to second guess myself

[News Bot]

Hmm, I'll take your word for it lol. Thanks for letting me know, I was starting to second guess myself

The exchange was pretty much;

"We should have a female Tyrant."
"Okay."

All Sugimura really did to accommodate it was add in a bit in the scenario about Morpheus having undergone a "transformation" before the game and being dis-proportioned. Really worthless. They would have got away with it if the female Tyrant was just another specimen.

[Reston]

MGS4 was a piece of shit but GS was good.

LOL.....

..... Right.

[News Bot]

MGS4 was a piece of shit but GS was good.

LOL.....

..... Right.

Yup.

Might as well be RETROACTIVE CONTINUINITY: THE GAME. The game and its "Database" also contradict each other to the point where it is almost mind-numbing.

I suppose the story is fine if you like comic books.

































(nanomachines)

[Mr_Zombie]

MGS4 was a piece of shit but GS was good.

LOL.....

..... Right.

Well, he is right. MGS4 is just one giant retcon where every plot hole (and there's a myriad of them, most of them introduced in the game) is simply explained by nanomachines.

Gun Survivor, on the other hand, is just a very simple low-budget story with great but underused backstory.

[Reston]

Yup.

Might as well be RETROACTIVE CONTINUINITY: THE GAME. The game and its "Database" also contradict each other to the point where it is almost mind-numbing.

I suppose the story is fine if you like comic books.

































(nanomachines)

It's no different then Resident Evil and everything being explained through the use of viruses.

EDIT: And contradicting, yes. It does contradict itself. And so does Resident Evil many times over. But I forgot who I was talking to.

[News Bot]

It's no different then Resident Evil and everything being explained through the use of viruses.

EDIT: And contradicting, yes. It does contradict itself. And so does Resident Evil many times over. But I forgot who I was talking to.

The thing is, the use of viruses isn't hidden or strapped-on randomly to explain everything. They are a pivotal part of the series and it is mostly built around them. Nanomachines were thrown in because Hideo Kojima doesn't have a fucking clue what he writes. He lost a lot of his motivation with MGS2, which was pretty good and is one of my favourite games in almost every respect. His last decent script was MGS3. From that point on, the Metal Gear series is a joke and hard to take seriously, which is infuriating when it maintains such a pretentious presentation.

And BIOHAZARD doesn't actually contradict itself. I don't know how many of these (oh, and "plot holes") I've debunked now.

[Grem]

And BIOHAZARD doesn't actually contradict itself. I don't know how many of these (oh, and "plot holes") I've debunked now.

In a way, the series doesn't really contradict itself, yes. But all the plot twists were handled poorly.

I mean, look at Wesker's resurrection. Capcom told us "he faked his death and injected himself with a supervirus". Ok....fine. Now, why did Wesker feel the need to kill himself in front of the STARS members even if he didn't want any of them to survive? Why did he need to kill himself physically to make Umbrella believe he's dead (I don't see anyone monitoring him)? Why did he risk to inject himself with a virus he didn't really know? This is just complete nonesense.

And that's just one thing.

Take the Tyrant. It felt like a prototype in RE1. But, in all the following sequels we've got lots of perfect mass produced Tyrants. And the explanation for this? Oh, there is a russian guy somewhere cloning himself. So what's the deal with the T-002, then? Why are they making it like it's the ultimate bioweapon in the first place if there are tons of perfect Tyrants out there in the world? Why T-002 is so important in Bio1? I'm sure there is a "good" explanation for this, but the "explanation" doesn't fit at all with the original intent behind all of this.

The series in itself is, in a way, coherent as a whole. But when you start to connect the sequels with RE1, you can feel that it doesn't really fit. I'm sorry. They can find all explanations possible, you can clearly see that RE1 was made in a way that did not suggest all the things that happened later on. And that's where the series fails storywise.

[Reston]

The thing is, the use of viruses isn't hidden or strapped-on randomly to explain everything. They are a pivotal part of the series and it is mostly built around them. Nanomachines were thrown in because Hideo Kojima doesn't have a fucking clue what he writes. He lost a lot of his motivation with MGS2, which was pretty good and is one of my favourite games in almost every respect. His last decent script was MGS3. From that point on, the Metal Gear series is a joke and hard to take seriously, which is infuriating when it maintains such a pretentious presentation.

And BIOHAZARD doesn't actually contradict itself. I don't know how many of these (oh, and "plot holes") I've debunked now.

You're really trolling right? I mean, come on.

"The thing is, the use of viruses isn't hidden or strapped- on randomly to explain everything."

Really? LMFAO. The entire genesis of the game is explained through viruses. The Umbrella Corporation is a pharmaceutical disguise for the creation of bio-organic weapons through the use of viruses.

Ozwell Spencer helped designed the Umbrella Corporation in order to create a new genetic race of super humans through the use of the Progenitor Virus meanwhile also deceiving a lot of people as to his true agenda by saying, "yeah let's do it for bio-weapons".

Zombies, B.O.W's, Secondary Infectants, are all created through the use of viruses and the writers use it to explain everything.

And not used to explain everything? How do you explain the trolls, loch ness monster, vertigo, or Osmund Saddler shooting bullets through his fucking hand after ingesting it? Oh that's right, RE had the perfect answer "We'll say it's parasites." Please explain to me in details how this is all possible. Oh wait, it's a game.


" They are a pivotal part of the series and it is mostly built around them. "

Viruses are a pivotal part of te series and it is mostly built around them. Hmmmmm, you're right.

And so was nanomachines.

MGS1 had nanomachines. FOX-DIE, Grey Fox, Liquid and Solid Snake, etc. Les Enfant Teribles Project (by the way, you're precious Wesker Project blatantly ripped off, lmfao).

MGS2 had nanomachines. Fortune. Vamp. Solidus's tentacles. The suits. The A.I's. Just because the game didn't explain everything right there does not mean it was not planned to be.

And MGS4 had nanomachines. And of course it used nanomachines for it's answers because it was caused by nanomachines! What did you want them to do? "Yeah Snake injecting himself with a virus and it allowed him to come back to life, because you know, viruses totally keep you alive".

You see, unlike Resident Evil, MGS actually had a conclusion. Granted Hideo is now going back and creating the Big Boss stories but that is acceptable. Does not make him any less lazy or more lazy then anyone who wrote a script for BIOHAZARD games.

" Nanomachines were thrown in because Hideo Kojima doesn't have a fucking clue what he writes. "

You mad?

Nanomachines are capable of doing a lot of things but that will turn into a whole nother subject which I will not get into.

And I think Kojima knows what he is talking about more then you do anyways. You're just coming off as someone who seems spiteful of someone else. Deal with it.

"He lost a lot of his motivation with MGS2, which was pretty good and is one of my favourite games in almost every respect."

I actually agree with you that MGS2 was one of the better games. But I do not agree with you that he lost a lot of his motivation with that game. That game was awesome. Had Tactical aspects. Espionage elements. Action. It lived up to it's potential. At least in my book. Obviously people cannot fathom a game with decent twists but whatever.

"His last decent script was MGS3. From that point on, the Metal Gear series is a joke and hard to take seriously, which is infuriating when it maintains such a pretentious presentation."

MGS4 was the conclusion of the timeline so far. He had a lot of explaining to do. Most of it was attempting to create something scientific with technology and a bit of imagination. It's the same with Resident Evil/Biohazard. And I played Portable Ops and it was garbage. Peace Walker was decent but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

" And BIOHAZARD doesn't actually contradict itself. "

LMFAO! Did you not just a few weeks ago go on a "soap opera" about how the guy who wrote Wesker Report made no sense as to what he was talking about? The Wesker Report 1 is a contradiction. The Outbreak game endings compared to Resident Evil 3: Nemesis's ending is a contradiction. Which missile is it? Was it many or was it one? I already know your answer, "Technically it was both", pffffttt.


" I don't know how many of these (oh, and "plot holes") I've debunked now. "

Oh so we're back to this again, Bot? Nice quick jab at me, btw.


Alright, if I get in trouble for telling it how it is, oh well....

You never debunked anything as far as I am concerned.

When it came to me,

You never debunked anything and the fact I called you out on the whole limiter coats used on the T-103 variation of the Mr. X's and-- In fact, I am still waiting for you to provide all the scans you "Stated as sources" in it's original article. Until then, it's your opinion. And I have my opinion. But yeah, still waiting...

When it comes to other people,

You told people who had opinions that they were wrong. You come across as pompous and ignorant when you try to tell everyone they are absolutely wrong and that you are right. In fact you never once go, "Well I think... or I don't agree..," it's always you talking down to other people.

If you want to sit around and translate old articles and magazines to thirst your own curosity and provide cool tidbits for other people, you have every right to and please by all means, continue. I don't think anyone (nor myself) have any complaints. After all, it's a RE Community or it's supposed to be.

I'm sorry I don't have the time to go buy every single piece of old article, magazine, book, all in Japanese and then pay people to translate it for me. Sorry, I'll admit it. I don't.

However as an OPINION and OBJECTIVE POV, I'd say that you should stop being so stuck up and claiming you're the law and all knowledgable expert of Resident Evil (you don't need to say it for it to be true or not, it's how you come across).

The fact that you had to add that last part that I quoted in there proves it.

People ask why forum activity becomes low. It's because of people who do what you do. It's one of the reasons I stopped coming around. You can no longer have a conversation with anyone without someone jumping in and claiming to be all knowledgable in the subject.

And I'll say it again. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. I have no qualms for stating the obvious.

But comparing MGS to RE and saying MGS4 is garbage and GS is not, is complete bullshit. Two different genres, two different perspectives, two different ideas. One uses nanomachines. The other uses viruses.

[News Bot]

Viruses (and parasites, sure) are the backbone of the BIOHAZARD series. Nanomachines were a tiny part of MGS1 that did minor things like charge a CODEC battery, barely in MGS2 (mentioned only a few times to explain how the characters communicate without actually talking). In MGS4 they manage to suddenly cure cancer and regenerate brain tissue.... right. They were thrown in, like it or not, because Kojima had no idea how to explain anything he wrote into MGS2, because he intended to end the series with MGS2... then wanted to end it with MGS3. You are right about nanomachines in the real world having quite a lot of potential, the same can be said for viruses and gene therapy. However, it is undeniable that them suddenly being the explanation for everything is a pretty cheap way to handle it since they were never important before. Kojima makes things up as he goes along, and that ended up being his weakness.

Also when I said he lost his motivation with MGS2, I meant afterwards. The backlash against the complicated and pretty hard to understand plot (and Raiden) took its toll on him. He's admitted this several times. He wanted his team to take over after MGS2, but then came back for MGS3. After MGS3, the same thing repeated, and he ended up churning out Portable Ops (another worthless retcon-a-thon) and MGS4. Peace Walker is a little different. It's quite good and isn't a contrived, hole filled mess like the previous two.

You never debunked anything and the fact I called you out on the whole limiter coats used on the T-103 variation of the Mr. X's and-- In fact, I am still waiting for you to provide all the scans you "Stated as sources" in it's original article. Until then, it's your opinion. And I have my opinion. But yeah, still waiting...

You "called me out" on a meaningless detail due to a contrived concept of what a retcon actually is. To me, a retcon is something that has been outright changed later on (the reason I am not a fan of most comic books). To you, apparently a retcon is an addition of a minor piece of information. If you're going to disagree on what a retcon even is then there is no point in debating that with you.

MGS4 makes little sense in any context. I'm surprised they didn't use nanomachines to explain Liquid's retarded arm that could change vocal chords in MGS2, but not in MGS4. Nanomachines were actually theorized since MGS2's release to be the cause, but the actual explanation was just... ugh. "LOL FAKING IT WASN'T REALLY LIQUID", "LOL NOT ACTUALLY FAKING IT IT WAS ACTUALLY TAKING HIM OVER SO HE CUT IT OFF AND GOT A PROSTHETIC ARM". Sure. And you are right, Wesker's Report does contradict itself (just on one detail now, evidently). I'm the one who was annoyed about it. It's a little different though. A different person wrote Wesker's Report. The same person wrote the entire MGS series and still managed to end up making no sense and contradicting himself endlessly. This isn't about Kojima as a person. It's not even about his abilities as a writer. It's the story itself being a mess. I still greatly admire Kojima and he was the first developer that made me want to be a developer and writer myself.

And you're right about me talking down to people. That's just me. I'm very blunt and impatient on forums, but the polar opposite anywhere else. I do accept when I'm wrong though, and do so regularly with Prime Blue.

(by the way, you're precious Wesker Project blatantly ripped off, lmfao).

Okay. How exactly? The Wesker Children were not clones. They weren't based on a legendary soldier. They were just children born to parents with superior intelligence who were then educated/indoctrinated, genetically modified and then administered a virus to make them physically and mentally superior and filter out the ones who actually had superior DNA. It is actually closer to Hitler's ideals than anything else. There is absolutely no connection with Les Enfants Terribles, let alone it being "blatantly ripped off".

Regardless, this thread isn't about MGS4's shit story. I never compared MGS4 directly to GS either. I simply said that complexity isn't necessary to make a good story and gave MGS4 as an example of a story where complexity made it stupid and contrived more than anything. MGS4 is a perfect example of my other point as well by the way, about execution and direction aiding the story. The game is bearable only because it has some masterful directing in other areas and decent execution.

In a way, the series doesn't really contradict itself, yes. But all the plot twists were handled poorly.

I mean, look at Wesker's resurrection. Capcom told us "he faked his death and injected himself with a supervirus". Ok....fine. Now, why did Wesker feel the need to kill himself in front of the STARS members even if he didn't want any of them to survive? Why did he need to kill himself physically to make Umbrella believe he's dead (I don't see anyone monitoring him)? Why did he risk to inject himself with a virus he didn't really know? This is just complete nonesense.

And that's just one thing.

Take the Tyrant. It felt like a prototype in RE1. But, in all the following sequels we've got lots of perfect mass produced Tyrants. And the explanation for this? Oh, there is a russian guy somewhere cloning himself. So what's the deal with the T-002, then? Why are they making it like it's the ultimate bioweapon in the first place if there are tons of perfect Tyrants out there in the world? Why T-002 is so important in Bio1? I'm sure there is a "good" explanation for this, but the "explanation" doesn't fit at all with the original intent behind all of this.

The series in itself is, in a way, coherent as a whole. But when you start to connect the sequels with RE1, you can feel that it doesn't really fit. I'm sorry. They can find all explanations possible, you can clearly see that RE1 was made in a way that did not suggest all the things that happened later on. And that's where the series fails storywise.

I don't see what's hard to understand about Wesker's actions. They intentionally left his death or survival in the original game vague, Mikami hinted at his possible survival soon after the game's release. He wanted to make sure Umbrella thought he was dead. Not returning to the R.P.D. would've ensured that since he would be reported as MIA, with the mansion's destruction adding to it. And the Prototype Virus which he was told would give him superhuman abilities was useless unless he injected it shortly before dying.

And you mis-interpret the whole Tyrant issue (the same way I used to, in fact). The T-002 was the "perfect" prototype, the T-001 being a failed attempt. Sergei had just 10 clones made of himself, which were researched by Umbrella elsewhere, coming up with the T-103 in the process. Since the T-103 was still incomplete, they required the combat data of the T-002 which was already scheduled for mass production so they could refine the T-103 and mass produce it instead. All of the "perfect Tyrants" are based on the T-002's combat data. It confused me for a long time too.

[Smiley]

Well, he is right. MGS4 is just one giant retcon where every plot hole (and there's a myriad of them, most of them introduced in the game) is simply explained by nanomachines.

Gun Survivor, on the other hand, is just a very simple low-budget story with great but underused backstory.

When it comes to video games it takes a lot more than just the plot to determine its value as a good game or not. Not many people will defend RE4 for its story, but the same cannot be said about game play.

In that regard of game play, voice acting, content, structure you would have gotten your money's worth playing MGS4 than you would playing GS.

I played GS in about an hour. That was bull**** even for a used price deal.

And as far as plot and continuity goes you can write essays about the continuity and plot between games like RE and MGS. Do retcons happen? When it comes to a long lasting series they will. And in this modern day and age of reboots, prequels, alternate universe, etc. you can drive yourself mad if you try to force a canon upon a long series worked over by a lot of people.

Kojima has said in the past he was ending it at 2. The fans wanted more and the developers wanted Kojima. So he made 3 even at the expense of retcons. Still wasn't enough. Those intentional left out explanations needed explaining and would have been damned no matter how Kojima went about explaining them. The hype is simply to big for some people. That's when 4 comes in.

So take it as you will.

On a side note I loved X-men: First Class. It retcons almost every event in each X-men film but as far as story, acting, action, characters and tone went the movie easily surpassed a great deal of hero movies out this summer.

[Reston]

"Viruses (and parasites, sure) are the backbone of the BIOHAZARD series. Nanomachines were a tiny part of MGS1 that did minor things like charge a CODEC battery, barely in MGS2 (mentioned only a few times to explain how the characters communicate without actually talking). In MGS4 they manage to suddenly cure cancer and regenerate brain tissue.... right."

You're again comparing two different genres. MGS is better written and better paced. RESIDENT EVIL is not. They introduced nanomachines in MGS1, explained it further in MGS2 with an emphasis on what was possible (after all MGS2 had a lot of complexity), and MGS4 they took it a step further by using nano machines and advanced A.I.'s.

And you're gonna say, "...right"? Resident Evil is about bringing stuff back from the dead and you're gonna cry over regenerating brain tissue and curing cancer.

And how is MGS4 anymore insane then MGS2 which you love so much? Vamp runs on water and runs up a pipe. He even floats in the air. See, you contradict yourself.


"They were thrown in, like it or not, because Kojima had no idea how to explain anything he wrote into MGS2, because he intended to end the series with MGS2... then wanted to end it with MGS3."

So do you have a source that says they were thrown in because Kojima had no idea how to explain anything he had wrote in MGS2?

And Kojima always says that. He said that back during MG2 for God's sake. And he said the same thing after MGS3 and the same thing with MGS4. It's a running joke.

"You are right about nanomachines in the real world having quite a lot of potential, the same can be said for viruses and gene therapy. However, it is undeniable that them suddenly being the explanation for everything is a pretty cheap way to handle it since they were never important before. Kojima makes things up as he goes along, and that ended up being his weakness."

No different then writers for Resident Evil games making up lame excuses as they go along to say "Well to make a troll you use a parasite". They even use a chem chart that is for urine and try to say it's for a virus. Come on, quit praising Resident Evil for being so "perfect".

"You "called me out" on a meaningless detail due to a contrived concept of what a retcon actually is. To me, a retcon is something that has been outright changed later on (the reason I am not a fan of most comic books). To you, apparently a retcon is an addition of a minor piece of information. If you're going to disagree on what a retcon even is then there is no point in debating that with you."

No. I called you out to prove to me and everyone else that the T-103 limiter coats were always bullet proof from the days of Resident Evil 2 development. You said they were bullet proof. I said they were not. You said you had proof that it was. I said show it. You gave me a list of RE books but you didn't show me the exact source citation. And you won't debate cause you know you got called on your BS.

Debating with you is like talking to a brick wall and expecting to knock some sense into it.

"MGS4 makes little sense in any context."

And Resident Evil does? People coming back from the dead after being impaled? A corporation even being around after a nuclear strike on an American nation? A President sends one emo loser into the woods to look for his daughter and when HE CONFIRMS he has Ashley they send in two choppers? Chris punching a boulder? Chris and Wesker fighting in a lava pit?

Yeah, okay. Keep drinking the cool-aid. I only bring this up because you live in your fantasy world where Resident Evil is perfect in everyway and you fail to accept the fact it's full of sillyness.

I'm surprised they didn't use nanomachines to explain Liquid's retarded arm that could change vocal chords in MGS2, but not in MGS4.

Actually that had to do with a VA who died and Hideo had to make changes to the story. But whatever floats your boat.

Nanomachines were actually theorized since MGS2's release to be the cause, but the actual explanation was just... ugh. "LOL FAKING IT WASN'T REALLY LIQUID", "LOL NOT ACTUALLY FAKING IT IT WAS ACTUALLY TAKING HIM OVER SO HE CUT IT OFF AND GOT A PROSTHETIC ARM".[I]

Again. See above post.

Sure. And you are right, Wesker's Report does contradict itself (just on one detail now, evidently).

No. It contradicts itself alot. But please, continue to dream on.

I'm the one who was annoyed about it. It's a little different though. A different person wrote Wesker's Report. The same person wrote the entire MGS series and still managed to end up making no sense and contradicting himself endlessly.

Just because you could not fathom it does not mean it does not make sense to other people. You even said before that you loved MGS2. What's with the flip flopping?

This isn't about Kojima as a person. It's not even about his abilities as a writer. It's the story itself being a mess. I still greatly admire Kojima and he was the first developer that made me want to be a developer and writer myself.

You admire the man but you basically just called him lazy, you said his story makes no sense and he contradicts himself endlessly. And you admire the man? Geez, with the way you post and talk down to people I thought someone like that you'd hate.

And you're right about me talking down to people. That's just me. I'm very blunt and impatient on forums, but the polar opposite anywhere else. I do accept when I'm wrong though, and do so regularly with Prime Blue.

Then maybe you shouldn't be on forums. This is not a wiki for Resident Evil. Not everyone's post has to be fact and confirmed by your translations. We're allowed to have opinions and not have to be subjected to your superior elitist and snobbish attitude. Seriously, grow up.

And I highly doubt you're the polar opposite anywhere else. And if you are, you need to seriously consider reversing yourself around. It's a freakin game and you're treating it like politics and religion.

Okay. How exactly? The Wesker Children were not clones. They weren't based on a legendary soldier. They were just children born to parents with superior intelligence who were then educated/indoctrinated, genetically modified and then administered a virus to make them physically and mentally superior and filter out the ones who actually had superior DNA. It is actually closer to Hitler's ideals than anything else. There is absolutely no connection with Les Enfants Terribles, let alone it being "blatantly ripped off".

Well thank you but I knew the information already. You do know other forum users have some sort of intelligence also?

Similarities: If you removed the virus aspect you said so yourself, "physically and mentally superior". The point of the Les Enfants Terribles was to create the perfect soldier, one who is "physically and mentally superior". Derp.


Regardless, this thread isn't about MGS4's shit story. I never compared MGS4 directly to GS either. I simply said that complexity isn't necessary to make a good story and gave MGS4 as an example of a story where complexity made it stupid and contrived more than anything.

No, this thread is not about Gun Survivor either. It's about Resident Evil 6.

[News Bot]

You're again comparing two different genres.

No. YOU came off with the comparing nonsense. Please find the part where I mention MGS4 and GS in the same post before you do.

Complexity doesn't really determine whether a story is good or not. Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots is complex. It is still a piece of shit.

This is all I had to say on MGS4 until you made a debate out of it and actually started comparing out of fucking nowhere. Did I strike a nerve? Because I wasn't talking to you nor was I making a comparison, I was asking Prime Blue if he thought complexity made a story better and then offered up an example why that's not strictly true. Try reading, please.

No. I called you out to prove to me and everyone else that the T-103 limiter coats were always bullet proof from the days of Resident Evil 2 development. You said they were bullet proof. I said they were not. You said you had proof that it was. I said show it. You gave me a list of RE books but you didn't show me the exact source citation. And you won't debate cause you know you got called on your BS.

I gave you precise book names and page citations. What exactly do you want?

Then maybe you shouldn't be on forums. This is not a wiki for Resident Evil. Not everyone's post has to be fact and confirmed by your translations. We're allowed to have opinions and not have to be subjected to your superior elitist and snobbish attitude. Seriously, grow up.

And I highly doubt you're the polar opposite anywhere else. And if you are, you need to seriously consider reversing yourself around. It's a freakin game and you're treating it like politics and religion.

I am neither superior elitist nor do I have a snobbish attitude. That is your opinion because I disagree with you and you don't like what I do. I just put fact over opinion. If I think your opinion is stupid I will probably say so, and I will point out if you happen to be wrong. Maybe if you get offended so easily you shouldn't be on forums? I accept opinions. Does that make them right? No. Are opinions fact? Fuck no. Do I have to agree with opinions just because I accept them? LOL. Fact and opinion are pretty separate. Thinking a story is good or bad is an opinion. Actually specifically detailing information or listing contradictions is fact. I generally stick to the latter, and the results point to some stories (like MGS4), being poor and others (like BH) being good for what they are. If I know something to be fact, it will be stated as such. If I find interesting info, I post it. If someone is wrong, I correct them, offer the evidence, the source and the reasons why. Maybe there will be a conflict of information and it will turn into a debate. You're the only one with some notion that I think the BH series is perfect. I point out and list its flaws just as much as I praise it. I do the same for pretty much everything, and as you've pointed out, I do the same for some of my favourite games and I'm still critical of people I admire. It's part of the enjoyment. You are the one who is accusing me of saying things I blatantly am not such as calling Kojima "lazy" or implying that MGS2 is bad. Seriously, get lost with that.

Well thank you but I knew the information already. You do know other forum users have some sort of intelligence also?

Similarities: If you removed the virus aspect you said so yourself, "physically and mentally superior". The point of the Les Enfants Terribles was to create the perfect soldier, one who is "physically and mentally superior". Derp.

Still nowhere close to a rip-off. The concept of being physically and mentally superior isn't unique (BIOHAZARD had artificial births and cloning in 1997/1998, btw) and both projects are completely different in every aspect. You just spoke straight out of your ass. Nice try though.

Not going to bother replying to the rest of that post unless you actually use quotes.

[Reston]

No. YOU came off with the comparing nonsense. Please find the part where I mention MGS4 and GS in the same post before you do.

I did? Did you not say in one post that MGS4 was complete garbage and that in another post GS was good for it's story? Yes, I put them together because that's basically what you said. I am referring to the fact that you're comparing MGS and saying its garbage and your quest to act as if Biohazard is superior.

This is all I had to say on MGS4 until you made a debate out of it and actually started comparing out of fucking nowhere. Did I strike a nerve? Because I wasn't talking to you nor was I making a comparison, I was asking Prime Blue if he thought complexity made a story better and then offered up an example why that's not strictly true. Try reading, please.

No you did not stirke a nerve. I simply was giving a objective point of view. But apparently I struck a nerve with you. But here you go again, you always try to change the discussion to something else.

I gave you precise book names and page citations. What exactly do you want?

I think I already stated what to give me as your proof. Try reading, please. (Scans of the pages with the original japanese text).

I am neither superior elitist nor do I have a snobbish attitude. That is your opinion because I disagree with you and you don't like what I do. I just put fact over opinion.

And you're right about me talking down to people. That's just me. I'm very blunt and impatient on forums,

So you're not an elitist snob but I am right about you talking down to people. Hmmmm, okay. And no, you just put your biased opinion over everyone else and claim it to be fact. Nice try though.

If I think your opinion is stupid I will probably say so, and I will point out if you happen to be wrong. Maybe if you get offended so easily you shouldn't be on forums? I accept opinions.

Actually chief, you don't accept anyone's opinions. You said so yourself you talk down to people on forums. This is a community. Not Botocrachy.

Does that make them right? No. Are opinions fact? Fuck no. Do I have to agree with opinions just because I accept them? LOL. Fact and opinion are pretty separate. Thinking a story is good or bad is an opinion.

Glad to know you're back to lecturing people again. Took you only an hour or so. And no, you don't have to agree with people but the problem is you're always talking down to people. And you're right, you THINK MGS4 is garbage. AND YOU THINK GS is good. But I don't agree with your assessment on that. See how easy that was! You're learning to be a human being and accepting of other people's opinions! ::Clap::



Actually specifically detailing information or listing contradictions is fact. I generally stick to the latter, and the results point to some stories (like MGS4), being poor and others (like BH) being good for what they are. If I know something to be fact, it will be stated as such. If I find interesting info, I post it. If someone is wrong, I correct them, offer the evidence, the source and the reasons why. Maybe there will be a conflict of information and it will turn into a debate.

There is never a debate because you're the authorative voice on Biohazard. Apparently you have some time machine where you obtained every single insight on everything related to Resident Evil. But all you offered up was opinion.


You're the only one with some notion that I think the BH series is perfect.

Ah, no. Sorry. If you think I am the only person who think's that you need a reality check.

I point out and list its flaws just as much as I praise it. I do the same for pretty much everything, and as you've pointed out, I do the same for some of my favourite games and I'm still critical of people I admire. It's part of the enjoyment. You are the one who is accusing me of saying things I blatantly am not such as calling Kojima "lazy" or implying that MGS2 is bad. Seriously, get lost with that.

But you did call him lazy. Scroll up and re-read your own posts unless you went and edited that to take it out. And I have to get lost with nothing. You're simply taking more offense to this now like you did last time. Get over it.

Not going to bother replying to the rest of that post unless you actually use quotes.

That's cool.