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  • #31
    Originally posted by Smiley View Post
    Explain more about this mistranslation as I'm quite curious to hear about it. Since the internet is a game of telephone lots of sites were covering on this "sun mechanic" but of course if it stemmed from a mistranslation then that's something to look into. Lord knows I wouldn't doubt it. In the past people were falsely claiming that Sherry was confirmed in the game so I know how messy this can be.

    Also in regards to the ethnic minorities you understand that this sort of thing happens now where the teasers show off something and then add more down the line. We didn't start seeing women ganados until late in the game. I remember playing an early RE4 build back in the day that had no woman ganado and the only implication we had as to what happened to them came from that impaled soul Leon makes a quirky sex discrimination comment about. As far as 5's concerned Kijuju is a fictional setting in Africa so no one was batting an eyelash asking themselves where the other minorities were based on the region. The controversy stemmed from "white protagonist killing blacks". Next thing you know a supporting black character is bumped up to a lead and we see a lot more white villagers. Going off the teasers it does leave you to speculate. If this was populated by other ethnics why not have them in the teasers?
    It was just mentioned in a later interview that it was a mistranslation, after the later interview asked about it.

    And that's not true. The first BH5 teaser did not show any specific ethnicity or any other details apart from zombie-like running enemies. The first trailer showed several ethnicities and females, I don't know why you keep saying they were not shown in teasers, because there was only one actual teaser (doubtful they even had decided on what the enemies were meant to be at that point, zombies or Ganado) and the multiple ethnicities were represented in every single trailer.

    The BH4 thing you mention was actually a regional censorship issue. Female enemies were always in BH4, the same build you mention had the female Ganado in other regions. In the final build of almost every region, after they got everything verified by rating boards, female enemies were standard.

    The "controversy" is all made-up hokey bullshit. The developers did not give a fuck nor were they even aware that racism was perceived to be an issue by dumb asses. Sheva was "bumped up" for different reasons. Not to stave off a few idiots.
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    • #32
      "That's why I'm your partner. To help put them at ease."----

      Edit: I want to play a game with people. It's not quite "Where's Waldo" but similar rules apply. Count all the non-black people you see in the second RE5 link I provided. Now if you own RE5 play that and do a follow up.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Smiley View Post
        "That's why I'm your partner. To help put them at ease."----
        Cool story bro. What's your point?

        I think most people are too quick to jump on this imaginary bandwagon where every decision CAPCOM makes is the result of some conspiracy operated by corporate bastards.
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        • #34
          Oh no, it's not that. I certainly wasn't upset that the RPD only gave us one black zombie in RE2. It's just that I have eyes. But we're on the defensive today aren't we?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Smiley View Post
            Oh no, it's not that. I certainly wasn't upset that the RPD only gave us one black zombie in RE2. It's just that I have eyes. But we're on the defensive today aren't we?
            Defensive would be me making an effort instead of just reiterating plain information. There's no evidence to suggest racism ever crossed the minds of the developers and influenced the game, and by their own admission, Sheva's role changed for gameplay reasons rather than to satisfy people with a certain pigment.

            The reasoning and logic you're giving for such a situation isn't really any different from the people who accuse the game of being racist in the first place. Drawing connections where there are none.
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            • #36
              No evidence? I'd say the game itself is evidence enough. And even when you take the game play into account Sheva was one supporting character, and she wasn't originally BSAA either. But out of all the characters you could make into Chris' co-op partner why not the one that can "ease the tension". XD

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                No evidence? I'd say the game itself is evidence enough. And even when you take the game play into account Sheva was one supporting character, and she wasn't originally BSAA either. But out of all the characters you could make into Chris' co-op partner why not the one that can "ease the tension". XD
                So, no evidence then. Guess we can leave it at that. You can continue with your Africa = Black People logic.

                By the way, the whole "put them at ease" thing was because of an anti-alien sentiment that was growing over Kijuju as a result of the Type 2 Plagas administrations, as those infected with the parasite have strong violent tendencies towards outsiders (this was revealed in BH4). BH5 makes a point of it in its opening scene where Chris is given glares all-round.
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                • #38
                  Evidence=game=none? Is that how you comprehend things? ;>_>

                  If I was really inclined as to go into conspiracy territory it would be delving into how Wesker is the most dastardly slave owner imaginable. His perfect world of brainwashed blonde haired blue eyed supporters (see: Jill) followed by his league of African slaves.

                  Next I will prove how Capcom secretly wants to kill Leon and remove him from the series.
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                  • #39
                    You have yet to provide any concrete evidence outside of conspiracy theorist level of thinking, dude. Just assumptions and "hey they're black must be true lol", then ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

                    If I was really inclined as to go into conspiracy territory it would be delving into how Wesker is the most dastardly slave owner imaginable. His perfect world of brainwashed blonde haired blue eyed supporters (see: Jill) followed by his league of African slaves.
                    That's not really conspiracy territory, that's "fucking stupid" territory. Even as a joke.
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                    • #40
                      I'm sorry, but you're just not connecting the dots Mr. Bot.

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                      • #41
                        There second trailer is definitively full of black folks...if there are non Black Majini in there someone is going to have to point them out to me. Which isn't to say Capcom was being racist - they probably thought, 'Africa, that has black people, right?' and left it there. It's not as Japan runs into Africa that often.

                        Which isn't to say they didn't change the enemies and add Sheva to stop those allegations. We know from the artbook Chris wasn't always meant to have a co-op partner, after all. It certainly isn't impossible that Capcom were surprised by the reaction and decided to take steps to calm those complaints - steps that worked, for the most part. The whole controversy was barely mentioned during the launch.

                        And yes, I seem to recall Capcom denying they'd changed things to calm it all down and the implemented changes were stuff they'd been working on at the time. At least, I seem to recall that. But they couldn't exactly say, 'Well, we were scared shitless people would sue or boycott us over this, so we changed it'.

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                        • #42
                          Aaaand there we go.

                          There second trailer is definitively full of black folks...if there are non Black Majini in there someone is going to have to point them out to me. Which isn't to say Capcom was being racist - they probably thought, 'Africa, that has black people, right?' and left it there. It's not as Japan runs into Africa that often.
                          There are a few peppered in throughout the trailer, not as much as later trailers and onwards. Which is understandable since the first E3 trailer was still ridiculously early in development and it would have been weird if the opposite had been true and the entire populace was white or Middle East looking. Co-op wasn't added as late as people like to make it sound, either. Chris didn't have a partner only in the very early builds of the game. Sheva was a character they redesigned multiple times (in both appearance and story) from the beginning of development and the scenario had already outlined that Jill was "dead" so they couldn't make her the co-op partner without changing most of the story. On the other hand, Sheva was already envisioned as a support character throughout the game, so rather than introduce a throwaway character, they just made Sheva the co-op partner.

                          But yeah. Africa is immensely diverse. The mistake people make is assuming that it is Black Continent or something. Ironically more racist than the game supposedly is.
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                          • #43
                            Oh definitely. What's even more disturbing is the level of violence they charted out for Chris in the game. Adding Sheva just places an emphasis over black-on-black crimes. But when it came to Chris they even gave him a curb stomp maneuver that he could perform on the Africans.

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                            • #44
                              Im ready for it in 2015 xD

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                              • #45
                                Are we still debating on this racism bullshit? RE5 is not racist by any means, get over it people.

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