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  • "Control" Plaga solved... I think.

    Probably the biggest clusterfuck to arise from the BH4/BH5 era. In BH4, great importance is put on a "sample" which becomes pretty synonymous with every major story-driven scene in the game, and is mentioned so many times alone by Albert Wesker that Richard Waugh found it amusing during voice recordings. In Separate Ways, we learn that this is a "master Plaga" specimen. Ada escapes with it and gives it to another organization different from Wesker's (whether or not it is Umbrella's rival company "The 3rd Organization" or another one entirely is a contentious matter still to be looked into).

    In BH5's files, we have the "control Plaga", very similar to the "master Plaga" previously. Different names though. Surely they're different? No. They're the same fucking thing, just translated differently by the translators on each game (Shinsaku Ohara for BH4, Miguel E. Corti and SDL PLC for BH5). Both names it is given in the English versions of BH4 and BH5 are alternative and inaccurate translations. The original Japanese term is "shihaishu". The name of the parasite is actually most accurately translated as "dominant species" (or "dominant strain").

    The origins of the dominant species are never actually explained in-game, however Krauser does mention that it was developed by Saddler (raised/cultivated in the Japanese version, same meaning). In the BH4 Kaitai Shinsho guide, it is revealed:

    The dominant strain Las Plagas was developed out of repeated genetic modifications, in order to maintain the awareness of the host human
    in Archives II, it is revealed that it was developed specifically by Luis.

    The objective; obtain a sample of the 'dominant strain Plaga' being developed by Luis at the Los Illuminados cult. Ada intercepted an e-mail requesting medical assistance sent by Luis to a university friend, and from this correspondence learned that he wanted to leave the cult as a personal decision.

    So, she decided to approach him and offer him a deal; she would protect him if he would steal a sample from the cult.
    Finally, what about the twist ending of Separate Ways where Ada betrays Wesker? It's also explained in Archives II.

    Upon hearing information about a parasite in Europe that gave superhuman strength to its host, Wesker planned a mission to steal a sample of this "Plaga" parasite from the cult of Los Illuminados. In 2004, he ordered Jack Krauser and Ada Wong to go there to steal a sample of the dominant strain Plaga. Although meticulously planned, Krauser was cut down by Leon and Ada betrayed him, resulting in only obtaining a subordinate strain Plaga sample. However, through another means of acquisition, he successfully obtained a "dead dominant strain Plaga."
    So there we go. The "dominant species Plaga" is a genetically modified Plaga parasite designed to give the host control over the parasite.

    Still working on trying to confirm if there was anything natural about the dominant parasite at all, or if only the "sample" was modified. There are some hints in various material that Saddler was somehow special from the rest and had control over other hosts of the dominant species Plaga. There is also the fact that he is the only dominant species host who is able to manipulate the Plaga within Leon and Ashley, none of the other hosts (Salazar, Mendez, Krauser) ever exhibit this ability. Ada calls it a "secret art" in her report, which seems to be tied with the Salazar family's ability to control them when they fossilized and sealed them centuries ago.
    Last edited by News Bot; 09-20-2011, 09:44 AM.
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    Going to have to disagree with you there.

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    • #3
      Very interesting read.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Smiley View Post
        Going to have to disagree with you there.
        ...is there actually a reason to disagree with him, or are you just trying to send him into a foaming rage?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
          ...is there actually a reason to disagree with him, or are you just trying to send him into a foaming rage?
          You can't be blind dude.

          You're free to post in his topics - just keep the tone serious, don't try to derail it into 'is this topic even valid, no one cares' arguments and the like. Same goes for him.
          He's been looking for ways to troll and avoid being moderated for it.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
            ...is there actually a reason to disagree with him, or are you just trying to send him into a foaming rage?
            There is, but I wanted to keep the post serious as you requested and not try to strike up an argument. I didn't want to add anything further after the name calling he's done over in my topic and make this heated like last time.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Smiley View Post
              There is, but I wanted to keep the post serious as you requested and not try to strike up an argument. I didn't want to add anything further after the name calling he's done over in my topic and make this heated like last time.
              No, you're a troll. You have been doing it for a while now with absolutely no provocation. If you really disagreed, you would say why. If your next post in this topic isn't about what you disagree with, then don't bother posting at all.
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              • #8
                Children, as in the other topic, play nicely of go to time out.


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                Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                There is, but I wanted to keep the post serious as you requested and not try to strike up an argument. I didn't want to add anything further after the name calling he's done over in my topic and make this heated like last time.
                Posting why you disagree isn't causing an argument, unless it's some random crap about the stars alignment disagreeing with him. Believe it or not, sometimes people can actually discuss this stuff without a moderator wanting to kill them, so long as they keep arguments valid and personal comments non-existent.
                Last edited by Darkmoon; 09-20-2011, 03:30 PM.

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                • #9
                  I wonder if just Saddler's Plaga was unique in that Mendez, Salazar and Krauser all had control plagas and yet seemingly could not control the ganado.

                  Perhaps Luis modified Saddler's plaga before he took it into his body. Then he developed a duplicate sample which he intended to give to Ada in return for protection. Or perhaps it was genetically modified to adhere to the pulsating mass he carried on the end of his staff.
                  Last edited by TheBatMan; 09-20-2011, 03:52 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Well we know that Mendez could control the Ganado, and Salazar says that he can as well. We don't see Krauser controlling them, but he was more concerned with the increased strength it gave him.

                    Still some clarification needed on Saddler's one and if it is special somehow.

                    I do like how I was technically right all along about the "modified subordinate Plaga" thing if this plays out how I imagine it will, haha.
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                    • #11
                      I always figured at least Krauser's Plagas would be controllable. It makes sense to implant something that allows you total control over someone you don't trust, especially if it also boosts there strength and makes them believe they're really Sephiroth. Although, honestly, Saddler always struck me as the sort who would have control over everyone if he could.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
                        I always figured at least Krauser's Plagas would be controllable. It makes sense to implant something that allows you total control over someone you don't trust, especially if it also boosts there strength and makes them believe they're really Sephiroth. Although, honestly, Saddler always struck me as the sort who would have control over everyone if he could.
                        Agreed, with Krausers outsider status, I would figure they would want some insurance in case he became trouble for them. And considering Saddler is basically a megalomaniac, I'm surprised he didn't have utter control over everyone. Lure them in with promises of strength and power, shackle their will and make them your slaves. Seems like something he would do.

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                        • #13
                          Saddler's "secret art" is most likely what separated him from the others and gave him complete control. Problem is, we know fuck all about the "secret art" outside of Ada's theory that it might involve Saddler's staff (which is a mystery) and the same principle as dog whistles, and was originally used by the Salazar family.

                          The "secret art" is probably how they were even able to genetically modify and produce the dominant species Plaga.
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                          • #14
                            It'd be interesting to see the effects the T-virus could have on a dominant plagas.

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                            • #15
                              It's where I keep expecting RE to go. 'What happens when you inject the T-Virus in a Plagas and them ram it down someone's throat? We here at Not Umbrella Inc felt it was our civic duty to find out, so we de-populated several nearby villagers to do so.'

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