Resident Evil 6

[ElusionM]

There is always the possibility that Ada IS CARLA.

I won't go into details (due to lack of time), but quick notes for now:

-Ada Wong is not an official name, RE3 epilogues confirm that that is not her real name. So it's possible her real name is Carla Radames (with Ada being extracted from the rADAmes)

-All characters change clothes in both of their respective scenarios. Likewise, Ada can be wearing blue in Serbia, red in Tall Oaks, and blue again in China. I know it's just a game, but why would Carla have the SAME clothes on for 6+ months, especially since Capcom is actually giving the characters different clothes canonically (heck, Chris has been shown in THREE different outfits already so far, all canon).

-Blue dressed "Ada" has a grappling hook of the same design Wesker gave to Ada in Raccoon City, and the same one she uses in RE4
-"Ada Wong" is confirmed to be a BSAA agent(Damnation). This implies Chris is very close to Ada. Which is why when the blue dressed "Ada" in the Captivate trailer comes in contact with Chris and the BSAA, and she tells them about the C-Virus, the whole squad LOWERS their weapons once they realize it's just "Ada", i.e. "friendly".

-However, Ada later shows her true colors and betrays Chris and the BSAA, and as an unofficial resignation, she kills his squad and leaves with the words "Here's something to remember me by" (taunting with a "goodbye, but don't forget me" message).

-Chris' whole "I have to accept responsibility, it's my fault" etc can be interpreted as Chris had hired Ada into the BSAA, and he holds himself responsible because he never looked through Ada's true intentions and because of that, he basically had hired a mole/traitor. This can also be why he takes the whole thing so personally, whereas Piers does not. "I'm right there with you Captain, but YOUR PERSONAL vendetta isn't going to get us anywhere".

"After what she's DONE TO US, how many of our men are dead because of THAT BITCH!?" - the way Chris says this implies a deeper connection to the "bitch", i.e. more of a "after all we have done for her, how can she still do this!?"

-Neo-Umbrella was The Third Organization, and Alex Wesker must be the one running it. The BSAA is the world's largest and most active anti-bioterrorism organization, with connections to the UN even. So Ada, being the spy she always was, found this a great way to gain knowledge and access to materials via BSAA FOR Neo Umbrella.

Chris finds out she works for Neo Umbrella and even says it to Leon, which Leon responds to with a rather retarded "Yah, i Know mon'"

Simmons was framing Ada, but I think Ada is finally going to give up her false name and come out with her real name, Carla Radames. To her, the only way to get out clean is to get rid of the name Ada Wong and go with Carla Radames. Simmons is just a third party moron who is grasping for personal gains.


Which is also why I bet Leon kills Ada, because her truth is finally unveiled and Leon (finallydammit) over being obsessed with her.

Yeah, it's all theories. None of this has to be true, but spare me the "Ada never does pure evil" bullshit. People can change. Changing Ada is the least of change's worries, since she is just a scripted writer whose character can be changed anytime.

Will try doing a more detailed, properly constructed argument later if I have time.

[LVL100 Merchant]

There is always the possibility that Ada IS CARLA.

I won't go into details (due to lack of time), but quick notes for now:

-Ada Wong is not an official name, RE3 epilogues confirm that that is not her real name. So it's possible her real name is Carla Radames (with Ada being extracted from the rADAmes)

-All characters change clothes in both of their respective scenarios. Likewise, Ada can be wearing blue in Serbia, red in Tall Oaks, and blue again in China.

-Blue dressed "Ada" has a grappling hook of the same design Wesker gave to Ada in Raccoon City, and the same one she uses in RE4
-"Ada Wong" is confirmed to be a BSAA agent(Damnation). This implies Chris is very close to Ada. Which is why when the blue dressed "Ada" in the Captivate trailer comes in contact with Chris and the BSAA, and she tells them about the C-Virus, the whole squad LOWERS their weapons once they realize it's just "Ada", i.e. "friendly".

-However, Ada later shows her true colors and betrays Chris and the BSAA, and as an unofficial resignation, she kills his squad and leaves with the words "Here's something to remember me by" (taunting with a "goodbye, but don't forget me" message).

-Chris' whole "I have to accept responsibility, it's my fault" etc can be interpreted as Chris had hired Ada into the BSAA, and he holds himself responsible because he never looked through Ada's true intentions and because of that, he basically had hired a mole/traitor. This can also be why he takes the whole thing so personally, whereas Piers does not. "I'm right there with you Captain, but YOUR PERSONAL vendetta isn't going to get us anywhere".

"After what she's DONE TO US, how many of our men are dead because of THAT BITCH!?" - the way Chris says this implies a deeper connection to the "bitch", i.e. more of a "after all we have done for her, how can she still do this!?"

-Neo-Umbrella was The Third Organization, and Alex Wesker must be the one running it. The BSAA is the world's largest and most active anti-bioterrorism organization, with connections to the UN even. So Ada, being the spy she always was, found this a great way to gain knowledge and access to materials via BSAA FOR Neo Umbrella.

Chris finds out she works for Neo Umbrella and even says it to Leon, which Leon responds to with a rather retarded "Yah, i Know mon'"

Simmons was framing Ada, but I think Ada is finally going to give up her false name and come out with her real name, Carla Radames. To her, the only way to get out clean is to get rid of the name Ada Wong and go with Carla Radames. Simmons is just a third party moron who is grasping for personal gains.


Which is also why I bet Leon kills Ada, because her truth is finally unveiled and Leon (finallydammit) over being obsessed with her.

Yeah, it's all theories. None of this has to be true, but spare me the "Ada never does pure evil" bullshit. People can change. Changing Ada is the least of change's worries, since she is just a scripted writer whose character can be changed anytime.

Will try doing a more detailed, properly constructed argument later if I have time.

It's a cool theory, but I think it puts too much stock in how much of Damnation will affect 6 (I don't think Damnation will be particularly important to 6, similar to how Degeneration mostly just ended with a teaser of Tricell for 5). Also, in the E3 trailer we definitely see the photograph of the woman labeled "Carla Radames" who is definitely not Ada. Plus, there's also the video recording of the Carla Radames test subject.

[ElusionM]

Actually, the staff for Damnation recently confirmed the movie will be well integrated with RE6, especially when it comes to the BSAA and Ada. The timing is far too convenient for them to "reveal Ada as a BSAA agent", right before the game where BSAA suffers major casualties.

As for the photograph of Radames, many people have photoshopped her with shorter hair and she looks too much like Carla in RE6, who basically looks like an identical clone of Ada (as in, no difference at all between the two other than clothes and earrings).

The video recording is still arguable, even though it mentioned Carla Radames in the opening. But we shall see.

[shanemurphy]

I think the video we saw in the trailer is just the first showing of the cocoons, introducing the player to this staggering new threat's possibilities.

[ValentineLover]

I think that CAPCOM is just trying to mitigate the leak by going as if it never happened. And given your thoughts its kinda working.

[News Bot]

There is always the possibility that Ada IS CARLA.

I won't go into details (due to lack of time), but quick notes for now:

-Ada Wong is not an official name, RE3 epilogues confirm that that is not her real name. So it's possible her real name is Carla Radames (with Ada being extracted from the rADAmes)

-All characters change clothes in both of their respective scenarios. Likewise, Ada can be wearing blue in Serbia, red in Tall Oaks, and blue again in China. I know it's just a game, but why would Carla have the SAME clothes on for 6+ months, especially since Capcom is actually giving the characters different clothes canonically (heck, Chris has been shown in THREE different outfits already so far, all canon).

-Blue dressed "Ada" has a grappling hook of the same design Wesker gave to Ada in Raccoon City, and the same one she uses in RE4
-"Ada Wong" is confirmed to be a BSAA agent(Damnation). This implies Chris is very close to Ada. Which is why when the blue dressed "Ada" in the Captivate trailer comes in contact with Chris and the BSAA, and she tells them about the C-Virus, the whole squad LOWERS their weapons once they realize it's just "Ada", i.e. "friendly".

-However, Ada later shows her true colors and betrays Chris and the BSAA, and as an unofficial resignation, she kills his squad and leaves with the words "Here's something to remember me by" (taunting with a "goodbye, but don't forget me" message).

-Chris' whole "I have to accept responsibility, it's my fault" etc can be interpreted as Chris had hired Ada into the BSAA, and he holds himself responsible because he never looked through Ada's true intentions and because of that, he basically had hired a mole/traitor. This can also be why he takes the whole thing so personally, whereas Piers does not. "I'm right there with you Captain, but YOUR PERSONAL vendetta isn't going to get us anywhere".

"After what she's DONE TO US, how many of our men are dead because of THAT BITCH!?" - the way Chris says this implies a deeper connection to the "bitch", i.e. more of a "after all we have done for her, how can she still do this!?"

-Neo-Umbrella was The Third Organization, and Alex Wesker must be the one running it. The BSAA is the world's largest and most active anti-bioterrorism organization, with connections to the UN even. So Ada, being the spy she always was, found this a great way to gain knowledge and access to materials via BSAA FOR Neo Umbrella.

Chris finds out she works for Neo Umbrella and even says it to Leon, which Leon responds to with a rather retarded "Yah, i Know mon'"

Simmons was framing Ada, but I think Ada is finally going to give up her false name and come out with her real name, Carla Radames. To her, the only way to get out clean is to get rid of the name Ada Wong and go with Carla Radames. Simmons is just a third party moron who is grasping for personal gains.


Which is also why I bet Leon kills Ada, because her truth is finally unveiled and Leon (finallydammit) over being obsessed with her.

Yeah, it's all theories. None of this has to be true, but spare me the "Ada never does pure evil" bullshit. People can change. Changing Ada is the least of change's worries, since she is just a scripted writer whose character can be changed anytime.

Will try doing a more detailed, properly constructed argument later if I have time.

Ada is not Carla.

1) Ada is an "official" name. Being an alias doesn't mean much when she uses it everywhere, with everyone. Being an alias was something added by Mr. Kawamura to add a little bit more mystery to her character (confirmed by himself).

2) There's no clothes changing. Ada wears red every time she appears. Carla wears blue everytime she appears. For them to be the same, Ada would have to change her clothes every single time she appears in not one, but three places (Edonia, Tall Oaks, China)

3) The hookshot is quite a bit different from the one Wesker gave her. It's an imitation.

4) Ada is not a BSAA agent, nor is she confirmed to be. She is said to be a BSAA agent, but it's a pretty outright lie. Leon would know and Ada would not be so secretive.

5) Reading into her lines too much.

6) Chris thinks it's his fault because they're his men and he sees himself as responsible for their safety.

7) The Third Organization is Wesker's secret organization. It stopped existing in 2006. The rival company also does not appear to exist anymore, but could potentially be Neo-Umbrella. Ada works for a completely different organization from either of these.

8) Simmons is framing Ada and they are both very antagonistic towards each other. Meanwhile, Carla is quite content with it and is already known to have a history with Simmons in some capacity.

9) Ada doesn't know who Carla is. She reads a file about her, and she looks nothing like Ada. She's Caucasian. In both the file and the trailers, there is a scene of a human form resembling Ada emerging from a Chrysalid. This is Carla, already known to be a "clone" (more like doppleganger) from leaked documents.

10) Ada and Carla are listed as two separate characters.

Ada never does pure evil. Not a single person has ever given a compelling example for this. Doesn't matter whether she is a "scripted writer", making a retcon out of her personality is simply very unlikely to happen given that consistency is probably the only thing the BIO series writers have going for them.

I think the video we saw in the trailer is just the first showing of the cocoons, introducing the player to this staggering new threat's possibilities.

We already know what the Chrysalid enemies look like. They are about as humanoid as a wet sausage.

[LVL100 Merchant]

What the shit? Someone has the full game already or some bizarre new demo (looks like it features the full beginnings for Leon and Chris, plus options for friendly fire, infinite ammo, split-screen, etc). Spoilers, obviously:

http://youtu.be/OY7M6PEkSUE

http://youtu.be/ZjYtiq7uXG8

Spoiler:

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Looks like Chris's and Leon's campaigns actually start in China, not Edonia or Tall Oaks. Maybe in medias res? The start of Leon's campaign actually looks like it's in the area from the E3 stage demo, but the events that transpire are RADICALLY different.

Looks like it might not be a press/reviewer copy either (which I wouldn't even think would be available until September).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605603-resident-evil-6/63558337

EDIT: Actually it is some official press demo, and perhaps the one that PS3 owners might be getting September. Leon's portion is once again terrible marketing since mostly nothing happens and it's even worse here than in the E3 demo because Spoiler:

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Helena looks to be immobile for much of it, so player 2 is just left watching in co-op

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Got the info, and I quote: (I'm translating from Arabic to English)

"We got the demo from the company itself, Capcom. This preview version is specialized for developers. And ONLY developers. This demo will be available for the public in September. We're showing this two months ahead. Pease enjoy it.

Pease support this video by giving likes and favorites, we got huge give-aways from Capcom, we got Street Fighter, Operation Raccoon City, and much more!"

You're very welcome.

[ElusionM]

It's 4:39, so I'll respond to your post later during the day NewsBot. In the meantime, here's the explanation of the new demos that were released exclusively to the Arabs playing it:

"We got the demo from the company itself, Capcom. This preview version is specialized for developers. And ONLY developers. This demo will be available for the public in September. We're showing this two months ahead. Pease enjoy it.

Pease support this video by giving likes and favorites, we got huge give-aways from Capcom, we got Street Fighter, Operation Raccoon City, and much more!"

So apparently, those are the demos that will be released to the public in September. That means the campaigns don't start there, it's just cut versions for the demos. (Chris might start in China, but Leon definitely starts in Tall Oaks).

[LVL100 Merchant]

It's 4:39, so I'll respond to your post later during the day NewsBot. In the meantime, here's the explanation of the new demos that were released exclusively to the Arabs playing it:



So apparently, those are the demos that will be released to the public in September. That means the campaigns don't start there, it's just cut versions for the demos. (Chris might start in China, but Leon definitely starts in Tall Oaks).

No way they're going to save an herb-using tutorial for that far into the game (plus the scene opens with a Capcom logo splash and credit crawl). All three campaigns will probably Spoiler:

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start in China for a short bit, but revert back to Edonia/Tall Oaks.

[aris13]

That means the campaigns don't start there, it's just cut versions for the demos.

This may be the case for Chris but Leon's opening had credits.

[ElusionM]

This may be the case for Chris but Leon's opening had credits.

I don't know, I really don't see Capcom giving 3-4 hours of flashbacks for all the characters. It's really going to affect the pacing of the overall game.

Oh, and looks like they edited the scene where Leon and Helena fall into the mall and are surrounded by hundreds of zombies. Now the zombies are below them. Glad they did that, because in the original the only way they would have gotten was by some BSAA chopper bombing the whole place up, which would have been a bit over the top.

Along with the whole beginning really; IIRC before Helena wasn't as injured.

Lol at the cheesy convo though, and the over use of QTEs even to grab hands, smh -_-

EDIT: Leon tells Helena "It's not over yet", implying this can not be the beginning of Leon's scenario. I'm guessing they show credits multiple times, for all Serbian, Tall Oaks, and the China scenarios regardless of whether you already saw them earlier or not.

[LVL100 Merchant]

EDIT: Leon tells Helena "It's not over yet", implying this can not be the beginning of Leon's scenario. I'm guessing they show credits multiple times, for all Serbian, Tall Oaks, and the China scenarios regardless of whether you already saw them earlier or not.

How does that imply it couldn't be the beginning? It's simply hinting at the events that occurred earlier in the story chronologically (but more so foreshadowing what's going to happen later). Having multiple credit crawls for a single scenario and in-depth herb/inventory tutorials and control scheme instructions so far into the game doesn't make any sense. For reference, none of the Xbox 360 demo sections have tutorial elements at all. If the university part of the game with the president being killed was really the beginning of Leon's story (and it can't start any earlier than that because he wouldn't have met Helena yet), why aren't there any tutorials or instructions there?

[ElusionM]

Because they have changed A LOT of things, tutorials are the least of the things to ponder about. Look at this Leon's demo, it's COMPLETELY changed storywise and gameplay compared to the one shown on E3.

On top of that, when the boss jumps down, Leon says "Back for more". Implying they had already fought the boss.

[LVL100 Merchant]

Because they have changed A LOT of things, tutorials are the least of the things to ponder about. Look at this Leon's demo, it's COMPLETELY changed storywise and gameplay compared to the one shown on E3.

On top of that, when the boss jumps down, Leon says "Back for more". Implying they had already fought the boss.

Yeah, of course. And the boss is also conveniently placed out of sight, leaving the player speculate who or what it is as they play through the events leading up to the reveal. It's an in medias res hook used to provide tension, and it makes the player more aware of the game's overarching events than the heroes (which is something Resident Evil pretty much never does).

Also, I don't think anything's "changed." All they did was take an existing map and retool it for an exciting and explosive use of marketing for on stage use at E3. That bit was likely never meant to be in the final product (which is good because the level design clearly wasn't meant to be used for that kind of gameplay in the first place).

[Dark_Chris]

It probably will be similar to Uncharted 2 openning.
First mission -> Tall Oaks + China up to first mission -> Updated frist mission -> Rest of the game.