The True Essence of a Resident Evil Fan?

[Guest]

I'm a fan of Resident Evil series.
But "if you're a real RE fan, buy everything" was a bit exaggerated.
We like RE games, but we're not forced to buy everything they release if we don't like it.

[REmaster]

I'm a fan of Resident Evil series.
But "if you're a real RE fan, buy everything" was a bit exaggerated.
We like RE games, but we're not forced to buy everything they release if we don't like it.

Right, because that just makes you a whore. Not to say that you're a whore if you buy any RE game/movie that you like(regardless of others opinions), but when you buy RE products that you dislike just for the word "Resident Evil" on the cover, then it becomes a tad silly. I should know, I'm a recovering RE whore.

Over that past few years while the series has struggled with an identity crisis and my funds have become significantly lower, I have a similiar approach to the series as Darkmoon does. If something is shit in my opinion, I will not buy it, for two reasons.

1. I barely have enough money after bills to buy RE stuff I actually LIKE.

2. If you hate the direction in which the series has headed, giving them money will not help. Not giving them your money may also not help-

[REmaster]

I hate to double post but my computer is broken and crappy PS3 internet has a message box text limit.

Anywho, not giving them your money may also not help, but shows that you're standing your ground while also giving you the nice and warm sensation of "sticking it to the man".

I would hope that myself or anyone else would not be labeled as anything less than true fans of the series, just because of a personal preference.

Aside from that, it doesn't matter how much stuff you collect to show others that you're a fan/feed your own obession, it's what's inside your heart that counts *Awww* As others have noted, I found this thread to be suprising considering we're all obviously fans here in one way or another.

Sure some fans are more dedicated than others, but a fan is a fan. However, this also goes both ways. He/She who claims they are a "loyal" fan and buys any pile of crap that Capcom produces(when He/She is fully aware that it's crap), is not being very "loyal" to thine own self.

Peace out.

[Guest]

I hate to double post but my computer is broken and crappy PS3 internet has a message box text limit.

Anywho, not giving them your money may also not help, but shows that you're standing your ground while also giving you the nice and warm sensation of "sticking it to the man".

I would hope that myself or anyone else would not be labeled as anything less than true fans of the series, just because of a personal preference.

Aside from that, it doesn't matter how much stuff you collect to show others that you're a fan/feed your own obession, it's what's inside your heart that counts *Awww* As others have noted, I found this thread to be suprising considering we're all obviously fans here in one way or another.

Sure some fans are more dedicated than others, but a fan is a fan. However, this also goes both ways. He/She who claims they are a "loyal" fan and buys any pile of crap that Capcom produces(when He/She is fully aware that it's crap), is not being very "loyal" to thine own self.

Peace out.

I agree, what I think the true fans should be are the ones who buy CANON material (games, books, etc), go through wikias and watch explanatory videos. In other words, the true fans should be the ones who do anything to upgrade their acknowledge of the series. By doing that, you should know any single fact about Resident Evil and if you do, you can call yourself a real RE fan.

[News Bot]

Anyone who goes through the Resident Evil Wikia and regards it as an accurate source really needs to re-evaluate their situation.

[I_Am_Nemesis]

I doubt this disagreement will ever be resolved, purely because everyone has their own opinion of what a "real" RE fan is. For example are you a real fan if you just play the games but dont collect merchandise? or you dont read the comics? or Are you a real fan if you believe that the new style of RE is shit and the old school games are much better?

Fact is there are so many different types of fans because Resident evil has become such a huge franchise now, theres the films (which i personally dont love but enjoy from time to time except for the last one, that was just a terrible film), the books, the figures, the games, the comics, memorabillia, clothing and now even manga.

It would be pretty Hard to define what a true RE fan is.

[alexdz]

go through wikias

I think you mean go through wikias, try to correct the mistakes, get pissed off when they change it back and start going to better sites.

[Guest]

I never said it was an accurate source...
I just use it to fulfill what I lost.

For example RE5's story.
As I said, I do anything to upgrade my acknowledge.

[Grem]

I will only talk about the games.

Even at the time when RE2 was released, there was already a debate on what really is RE. RE1 was a really different experience than RE2 and a lot of "new" fans came in with the sequel. Eventually, whether it's RE or another series, it's all the same. There will always be "purists" who think they "know" what makes a "real" chapter of their beloved series. It's clearly not that simple.

It's legitimate to think that the old RE's were the "true" installments, even if it's incorrect to say so. Because RE4 clearly threw away of lot of things from past games, people who loved what made RE so fun back then are pissed. But RE4 is legit in its own right because it takes enough elements from past games but reinvent the franchise. It's like RE4 is a new RE1 if you wish. All the games that followed RE4 took this game as a model, so RE4 became the new face of RE.

The real problem is that RE has two identities and this is shown in Revelations when they want to please both fans from old school RE and newer ones.

But even so, a real fan to me is someone who really enjoy the universe and knows the old games aswell. We can prefer old school style or action style, it doesn't matter, but you must know all the games of the series and the general story to be a real fan. If not, you're just a fan of one specific entry of the franchise, not the entire series.

[Mrox2]

I sense sarcasm here, and I hope that's the case.


Well... see, I started with 4 and had a blast with it (I played it when I was 12). But once I played the older games (especially REmake and RE2) I was pretty horrified when I realized the direction 4 took the series. I still like to think I'm a "true" fan in my own right, despite not being there from the start (hell, I was 4 when the original came out ).

Im a fan Why ?
Same as me Exactly ! U know i first saw the first game in age "4-5" , even that my brother "from another father xD" Bought me the disc , kind of he knew i would love it , i wanted it soo badly , but my bro "Whos 3 Years older than me" Didn't want him to keep it with us "i guess he was scared lol" The hell i was younger than him and loved to have it "even though that i played it once and couldn't move from the dinning room lol" ....
Soo i couldnt get it because of him :/
But then again my big bro bought us the awesome Gun survivor "Which i really loved and still , yes im wierd" then the first time we played it me and bro and him and his daughters xD Fun times ! , she was saying that these zombies drunk a infected Pepsi Lol Funny xD i thought too !
Ugh what the machines are doing in a church "Scary" , i never knew that these zombies are RE2 Ones , How creepy they were ! "And still"

Anyway im the exact as you , same with the RE4 Thing too ! but then i gone back and said , oh how did i miss all of these ! Played 3 , then said why not 2 , then got to play the lovely 1st game oh , Maybe before few years , and i love them , im not an actiontard like todays most gamers ...
Im Different , i always look forward horror games , i never like action that much , only few like GTA , Vice and these epic games ....
I love RE1,2,3 & That Rare and Epic awesome Code veronica , My favs are 3,2,CV , REmake shall be 1st but since i havent played it ... lol i think i said too much ehehehe !

[makta]

Lol, are you guys serious? It's a videogame series. Gees... You like it, you're a fan, you don't like it, you're not a fan.

[News Bot]

This topic needs an immediate lock. The entire subject is tedious and irrelevant.

[Grem]

It's an interesting debate, in my opinion. We see a lot of people saying "[insert any recent RE game] is not RE, I'm a true fan, Remake and CV are the best lulz" and when we look at their age on their youtube accounts they have 17 or 18 years old sometimes. That does not make any sense.

[Enetirnel]

It's an interesting debate, in my opinion. We see a lot of people saying "[insert any recent RE game] is not RE, I'm a true fan, Remake and CV are the best lulz" and when we look at their age on their youtube accounts they have 17 or 18 years old sometimes. That does not make any sense.

Age doesn't always factor into it. I just turned 20 this month, I was first introduced to the series by my Father and Uncle playing RE1 and they let me play it afterwards. I would have been about 4 or so, but I still enjoyed either watching or playing them myself. Smiley and I have a friend on here, Steve-0 from V-Acts who is a younger guy but he enjoys the classic games over the newer ones.

I find the recent ones to have been boring, lacking the same sort of atmosphere the older ones had - the more recent ones that have that atmosphere in my book are the Outbreak games (as I'm not forking out money to buy a 3DS to get Revelations as after playing RE4, RE5 and modding both games - every time I look at any new game, all I see is reuse all over the place in terms of animations, model parts, sound effects, music and so-on. Such as hearing music from Demento composed by Zero's composer - Seiko Kobuchi used in 4 - she wasn't credited, Outbreak File #2 - she wasn't credited for that either until finally she was credited in the OST but there's another song or two that uses SFX and loops she made for Demento that are actually made out of her voice).

So that's just one example of something that constantly annoys me with the newer titles, I went through Lost in Nightmares' with Smiley and kept shouting about 3.5 and Demento in the outside area... Or to hear from people, such as Seiko and to hear other staff specificially call the "Ganados" in 4 "zombies" before we had even gotten the retail 4, which Seiko hadn't seen - the response was always "I thought the enemies were zombies... Hmmm....", only to dig through files for other games and find some of the same SFX across them.

It just drives me up the walls after looking at character models, room files and the like to the point I can recognize the polygon structuring on things that I can actually connect up the dots with some of the various development staff inside or outside of Capcom. DX

So, that makes the newer ones less enjoyable for me. Not to mention the forced co-op in 5 or dealing with a shitty AI in what feels like they're trying to squeeze a Michael Bay movie into a fucking game instead of say, a B grade horror movie.

I'm actually looking forward to ORC due to the B.O.W.s like the Hunters, Lickers and the like all coming together at once with you know, zombies and Crimson Heads. Unlike having enemies that constantly have weapons and the like.

If I wanted a game about fighting human things or anything like that with the Ganados and Majini, the ones in 6's footage look suspiciously like the ones in the just pre-retail trailers for 4 (Leon sounded higher pitched, Luis had his moustache, the Ganados jumped/tackled Leon and strangled him) - as Darkmoon more or less said, Ganados just reskinned as zombies.

Then, I'd go and play practically any other game. Hell, I could go and play Ryū ga Gotoku OF THE END/Yakuza Dead Souls and be smashing zombies with bikes and other crap OR fighting muggers and other stuff at the same time... Because at the very least, I get to kill some actual bloody zombies and it gives an interesting bit of gameplay inside and outside the quarantine zone with additional mutated enemies (like the B.O.W.s) that provide some challenge outside everything else.

That sort of thing is what I'd like to see again, it wouldn't be that hard to reuse levels but change the enemy spawns to on or off between character runs like they did with the older games to provide a unique gameplay experience, which the games just aren't really doing anymore in my book.

[Grem]

Age doesn't always factor into it. I just turned 20 this month, I was first introduced to the series by my Father and Uncle playing RE1 and they let me play it afterwards. I would have been about 4 or so, but I still enjoyed either watching or playing them myself. Smiley and I have a friend on here, Steve-0 from V-Acts who is a younger guy but he enjoys the classic games over the newer ones.

That's not really what I meant. Some people seem to act like they knew RE from the very start when it's impossible since they were too young to experience what it REALLY was back then. I mean, the way they are going to see the original RE or CV will surely differ from what it was at the time.

Code Veronica, for example, made a strong impression on me back then. The cut-scenes and graphics as well as the story were absolutely amazing for the time. Now, younger people would just see a dated game with a lame story (because better things were made later on)
The original RE is the same. How could someone be possibly shocked by the hunters like during PSone era? How can they sense the real taste of survival? The real atmosphere and terror of the game? They will just see an ugly game with extremely bad dialogues, because so many great games and survival-horror came in between.

Of course, someone younger could prefer the old RE games and be a fan. That's not my point. But some younger people pretend like they know what RE really is when they don't have a fucking clue. Just because they were disappointed by RE5. That's the only reason.

But, ok, I don't want to sound like your typical RE elitist. I discovered the old REs in 1998, but I really like the new games aswell. For me, RE4 is the second best RE game after RE1 in terms of atmosphere and horror. People will strongly disagree but, nevermind.

I find the recent ones to have been boring, lacking the same sort of atmosphere the older ones had - the more recent ones that have that atmosphere in my book are the Outbreak games (as I'm not forking out money to buy a 3DS to get Revelations as after playing RE4, RE5 and modding both games - every time I look at any new game, all I see is reuse all over the place in terms of animations, model parts, sound effects, music and so-on. Such as hearing music from Demento composed by Zero's composer - Seiko Kobuchi used in 4 - she wasn't credited, Outbreak File #2 - she wasn't credited for that either until finally she was credited in the OST but there's another song or two that uses SFX and loops she made for Demento that are actually made out of her voice).

So that's just one example of something that constantly annoys me with the newer titles, I went through Lost in Nightmares' with Smiley and kept shouting about 3.5 and Demento in the outside area... Or to hear from people, such as Seiko and to hear other staff specificially call the "Ganados" in 4 "zombies" before we had even gotten the retail 4, which Seiko hadn't seen - the response was always "I thought the enemies were zombies... Hmmm....", only to dig through files for other games and find some of the same SFX across them.

It just drives me up the walls after looking at character models, room files and the like to the point I can recognize the polygon structuring on things that I can actually connect up the dots with some of the various development staff inside or outside of Capcom. DX

That's not something new. Capcom ALWAYS reused assets from past games. There are RE1 and RE1.5 leftovers in RE2, RE3 or even Code Veronica. Devil may cry was RE4, and so on and so forth. Really, that's not the real problem if you ask me.