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  • #16
    I don't think we can't seriously say that James Marcus research was meaningless. Or even the character itself. He's one of the pillars of the Umbrella corporation (reluctantly so). Maybe he was a bit weird in life and we mostly got to know his 'clone'. But whatever. Birkin would've been a fool to ignore his work (it went beyond the leeches becoming like a "transformers" type of thing).

    There was also some collaboration between the two teams (REmake/Zero). Mikami helped the Zero team once in a while. I think that's a big deal considering that Mikami always tried to keep away from another man's project. He obviously couldn't help himself. He wanted Zero to be a success.
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    • #17
      Never said he was meaningless, he's just not important for the reason some people state that he is. He created a t-Virus, just not "the" t-Virus, and certainly not the one the entire series revolves around.

      There was also some collaboration between the two teams (REmake/Zero). Mikami helped the Zero team once in a while. I think that's a big deal considering that Mikami always tried to keep away from another man's project. He obviously couldn't help himself. He wanted Zero to be a success.
      Not in terms of story or overall direction, though. REmake was "written" (just re-doing BH1 with a few small additions) by the planners on the game, as it had no scenario writer. So nothing from BH0 was utilized in REmake. Rebecca isn't mentioned in BH3 because BH0 wasn't finished yet, that's how nit-picky they were about letting other development teams use story elements from other games.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by News Bot View Post
        Never said he was meaningless, he's just not important for the reason some people state that he is. He created a t-Virus, just not "the" t-Virus, and certainly not the one the entire series revolves around.
        Who are those people? Almost everyone I see on the net claims Birkin "invented" the T-Virus. Considering that Zero has been exclusive to Nintendo consoles, there aren't a lot of "those people" around.

        Regardless of what type of virus it was Marcus was researching, it was the whole backstabbing and drama behind the scenes that made the game as interesting as any other RE game out there. How they were trying to pass their research as legit when in reality they were just trying to create bio-weapons. I really enjoyed reading Marcu's files and finding out what a paranoid crackpot he was.

        Originally posted by News Bot View Post
        Not in terms of story or overall direction, though. REmake was "written" (just re-doing BH1 with a few small additions) by the planners on the game, as it had no scenario writer. So nothing from BH0 was utilized in REmake. Rebecca isn't mentioned in BH3 because BH0 wasn't finished yet, that's how nit-picky they were about letting other development teams use story elements from other games.
        Yeah, but my point is that the two teams were definitely talking to each other. Mikami's team had the experience working with the Cube. The director of Zero and his team had none. So I wasn't writing here about canon or Rebecca.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pikminister View Post
          Who are those people? Almost everyone I see on the net claims Birkin "invented" the T-Virus. Considering that Zero has been exclusive to Nintendo consoles, there aren't a lot of "those people" around.
          See if you can find her! http://www.capcom-unity.com/resident...s_(sorta)?pg=1

          Regardless of what type of virus it was Marcus was researching, it was the whole backstabbing and drama behind the scenes that made the game as interesting as any other RE game out there. How they were trying to pass their research as legit when in reality they were just trying to create bio-weapons. I really enjoyed reading Marcu's files and finding out what a paranoid crackpot he was.
          I agree, I liked all of that.

          Yeah, but my point is that the two teams were definitely talking to each other. Mikami's team had the experience working with the Cube. The director of Zero and his team had none. So I wasn't writing here about canon or Rebecca.
          Ahh, point taken then.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by News Bot View Post
            Small world, eh?

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            • #21
              Bullshit has no bounds.
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              • #22
                Another source? Another source.

                Originally posted by INSIDE OF BIOHAZARD THE DARKSIDE CHRONICLES
                The virus which serves the most appearances in the BIOHAZARD series. It was said that it "was not suitable for the production of a practical B.O.W.", but this talk was restricted to the first t-Virus.
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                • #23
                  slam. dunk.

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                  • #24
                    This was brought back to memory recently and I happen to be working on an updated t-Virus article, so I thought I'd post bits and pieces starting with a list of known t-Virus strains, then a brief overview. As always, can only cover what we actually know about, even though it's stated that there are many t-viruses.
                    t-Marcus

                    In 1978, Marcus injected a leech with the Progenitor Virus and noticed that the virus favorably recombined within its body. Leech DNA gave the virus properties such as the ability for a host to survive without oxygen and feed off their own dead cells and tissue. Human testing created the Zombie, but initially low compatibility.

                    t-Birkin
                    t-Ebola
                    α-Strain
                    β-Strain
                    βII-Strain
                    Tyrant Strain
                    ε-Strain
                    V-ACT Strain
                    NE-T Strain
                    Mass-Produced Strain


                    In 1978, the t-virus was stolen from Marcus. After being brought to the Arklay Laboratory, Birkin incorporated the immuno-suppressant gene VP35 from the Ebola virus. This increased compatibility to 90%. α&β strains created through recombination in several creatures (Web Spinner & Cerberus). "Tyrant strain" created to limit brain damage (possible by increasing expression of antiretroviral protein APOBEC3G found in nerve cells, which induces mutations in retroviral genetic sequences to inhibit replication) but very low Tyrant compatibility. ε created through experimentation on Sergei Vladimir's clones, increased compatibility for Tyrants. V-ACT is a mutation of ε-strain. NE-T strain is also just ε but strengthened due to the Nemesis parasite's secretions.

                    Mass-produced strain, what is known as t-Birkin (able to create Licker) was created through experimentation with V-ACT and ε-strain.

                    t-Veronica

                    "t-Virus" by definition as a variant strain of the Progenitor Virus. Otherwise no relation to any t-virus.

                    t-Alfred

                    This t-virus was developed under Alfred's order on Rockfort Island in an attempt to replicate a complete t-Veronica. Virtually the same as the "ε-Strain", but is able to revive the dead. Specifics unknown.

                    t-Wesker

                    A variant strain of the t-virus developed by Birkin to give a host superhuman powers (Spencer's entire goal for the t-Virus Project). Was abandoned in favor of the G-Virus's superhuman prospects. Not able to "revive the dead" outright as commonly believed, acts the same as the normal t-virus except a host becomes a superhuman rather than a Zombie upon reawakening.

                    Neo-t

                    Developed on Godiwall Island by Mylene Beardlsey. Not much known about it except that it's better in some way, but only in regards to creating a B.O.W.

                    G-Virus

                    A "further development" of the t-virus. It is drastically different, but is still directly descended from the Progenitor Virus and countless t-virus strains. Able to revive the dead (creates Zombies) but also 100% compatible.

                    I didn't count the two oncolytic strains due to lack of information. Specially modified strains of the t-virus are able to combat cancer and while effective at that task... not so effective at keeping the host human.
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                    • #25
                      According to you with the discovery of Plaga parasite, virus-t was developed to control the B.O.W., then use them in battle, we can say that the nemesis project was a failure?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by blackpower View Post
                        According to you with the discovery of Plaga parasite, virus-t was developed to control the B.O.W., then use them in battle, we can say that the nemesis project was a failure?
                        No.
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                        • #27
                          News Bot = 1) Dr. cameron virus (T-Cameron Virus) was effective is powerful compared to ' other variants created by umbrella, what would happen if this virus was a Canon in the series, and how it would be evolved the story?

                          2)What are the reactions is progenitor symptoms on human subject, as compared to the T-Virus?

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                          • #28
                            1) It was never going to be covered in the series regardless of whether it was canon or not.

                            2) Death caused by a superantigen is the primary effect of Progenitor on humans. For those humans with particular genomes (which produce a rare natural antibody that stops this effect), it grants immortality with increased intelligence, healing and superhuman strength, speed, agility, etc. Experiments with the virus can allow it to give a host immortality, but at the cost of necrosis.
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                            • #29
                              In the orginal account of the Wesker Report 2, doesn't Wesker go into great detail that it was indeed their research that brought upon the T Virus from the progenitor Virus? Having creating the parasite from the progenitor virus inside Lisa? (Which would be a huge impact as the Nemesis derives from Lisa's parasite.) I like to think of the Wesker Report 2 as the be all end all history of Resident Evil, if I'm not mistaken didn't Wesker Report 2 come out before Resident Evil: Zero? Which is where Dr. Marcus was introduced. (I mean really, did they have to make Burkin and Wesker so bad that they kill off their mentor? With all this back stabbing going on for decades I would of though Umbrella could see the writting on the wall.)

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                              • #30
                                BIO0 was written in 1998. Marcus was around long before Wesker's Report II.

                                Wesker's Report II is written from an in-universe perspective, where Wesker is deliberately hiding Marcus' contribution to the t-Virus (as most of Umbrella did). When he mentions the "Progenitor Virus" in connection to Ebola, he's actually referring to Marcus' primitive t-Virus strain.

                                Marcus did this himself, he continued to call the virus "Progenitor" until its completion, even though he had already added leech DNA. Birkin and Wesker simply continued to call it Progenitor because they hadn't completed it to the standard expected of a virus fit for mass-production.
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