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    "Degeneration and Damnation apparently refer to movies that are included on the game cartridge. Downfall, however, is a reference to a game that takes place between Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil 6, and features Claire Redfield, who witnesses the downfall of humanity. "

    Ok, the story for this sounds really awful. Downfall of humanity? That's definitely one of the more pretentious story concepts, while it'd be cool to have Claire back in a game and all...these newer RE games storys are really determined to be over dramatic and its just depressing because it was the smaller stories of the first few games that stick with the fans.

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    What is the big issue people have with the "downfall of humanity" thing? The first thing that popped into my mind was that it was connected to BH6, which has the whole "No Hope Left" and tens of thousands of people dying worldwide motif, which sounds quite like a "downfall" to me.

    But I do agree that the stories are more and more over-dramatic. However, this is mainly because people would get quickly tired if the stakes were always the same.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by News Bot View Post
      But I do agree that the stories are more and more over-dramatic...
      Didn't you get the memo?

      It seems that Capcom are attempting to rid the series of the 'survival horror' tag, with Hirabayashi describing Res Evil 6 as "a blend of action and survival horror – something we like to call dramatic horror.”
      http://www.incgamers.com/News/30276/res-evil-6-is-dramatic-horror-not-survival-horror
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        I think that "dramatic horror" tag refers to making the game more like a cinematic video game experience, rather than "look at all this story drama!"

        Could also mean both, meh.
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        • #5
          The stakes are always "Save the world" now though, RE5, Revelations(though it was a cover up), RE6...I kind of miss the old "Try to survive being trapped in sinister location and live to tell the tale" from the earlier games.

          It was a lot more humble than 'You're mankinds only hope, with your pistol, 25 bullets, and 8 inventory slots you alone are the key to saving the world.'

          I think its kind of DnD'ish really(Not that anything is wrong with DnD!), the whole 'chosen by the gods' for a dark quest, as opposed to just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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          • #6
            To be honest it's been "save the world" since CODE:Veronica... albeit the main characters sort of just stumbled into that rather than going for the express purpose of world-saving.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
              The stakes are always "Save the world" now though, RE5, Revelations(though it was a cover up), RE6...I kind of miss the old "Try to survive being trapped in sinister location and live to tell the tale" from the earlier games.

              It was a lot more humble than 'You're mankinds only hope, with your pistol, 25 bullets, and 8 inventory slots you alone are the key to saving the world.'

              I think its kind of DnD'ish really(Not that anything is wrong with DnD!), the whole 'chosen by the gods' for a dark quest, as opposed to just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
              Well you know how it is, you survive a biohazardous outbreak one day, become a special agent for the USA the next, fight off zombies, save the world; Shit like that happens to people every day! xD
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              • #8
                It used to be "save your ass"... but after RE went mainstream, it's presently: "save the world".
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                • #9
                  I loved Revelations, but I hope RE6 is the last game for this year, as a business stand point releasing more games is great, but as a fan I need that waiting for the next big thing in the series.

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                  • #10
                    What Capcom does on handhelds has no effect whatsoever on their efforts on home consoles. That's probably how they see it.

                    Besides, not many ppl who play on home consoles have any desire to play "console-like" games on handhelds (amiright, Darkmoon?).

                    So if they were to release a RE game for 3DS or Vita, it will be because Capcom wants to start building up a fanbase there. Apart from the one they have already established on home consoles.

                    Handhelds/mobile gaming is the future anyway.
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                    • #11
                      If the 3DS games stick to the older formulas and maintain a good quality of content, I'll be more than happy to stick with them instead of the main stories, because honestly...the main story's kind of don't go anywhere anymore.

                      4 was a side story, and a departure from what we're used to and...fuck we've all been through this before I'll summarize:

                      RE:R, Worldwide threat: Chris Redfeild is there, moderate conspiracy is there, evil power hungry asshole incarcerated. a few years of peace follows.

                      RE5, Worldwide threat: Chris Redfeild is there. Small conspiracy uncovered, nukes Wesker in 'Plot Hole Volcano', a few years of peace follows.

                      RE6, Worldwide threat: Chris Redfeild is there. Global conspiracy uncovered, Weskers test tube son is in the middle of it.

                      When the stories were smaller, they actually moved forward a little bit. Primarily because they were smaller stories the fact that each story only moved the series forward a little bit ahead worked out in their favor.

                      The newer games, because they're so much larger in structure and what happens in them don't get away with this. Which is why you have character development mixed in all this because it adds to the experience as a whole. The RE writers have never really grasped this concept, which is at this point in game history, a wasted opportunity.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wrathborne View Post
                        I think its kind of DnD'ish really(Not that anything is wrong with DnD!), the whole 'chosen by the gods' for a dark quest, as opposed to just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
                        You need a better DM then.

                        Originally posted by Pikminister View Post
                        Besides, not many ppl who play on home consoles have any desire to play "console-like" games on handhelds (amiright, Darkmoon?).
                        No idea. In my case, I simply don't want a 3DS. I'm not a huge fan of handhelds in the first place, simply because A) I have huge hands and B) I tend to play with my wife watching and following along. I have no issue with Revelations being on a 3DS bar that it means I can't play it.

                        I do think the escalation of the story is going to be an issue - you can't really take a step back from saving the world. After that, saving Bumsville Ohio doesn't seem as important. You'd have to make people feel for the town and the characters, and Capcom doesn't seem capable of that kinda writing right now. But what can you move on from there? You can't save the universe without riding a shark across the sun, so you're kinda stuck.

                        EDIT: Actually, the only place I can think of taking it (other than to the next 'The World is in Danger, call Kennedy and Redfield' story) is if they screw up and global infection actually happens. Resident Evil is one of the few stories where a zombie apocalypse really works, because they have monsters that can smash tanks aside and murder fighter planes (albeit by Crow suicide and Giant Moth to the windshield...)
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                          Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
                          No idea. In my case, I simply don't want a 3DS. I'm not a huge fan of handhelds in the first place, simply because A) I have huge hands and B) I tend to play with my wife watching and following along. I have no issue with Revelations being on a 3DS bar that it means I can't play it.
                          There you go. My point wasn't why you don't play Revelations or why you don't get yourself a 3DS. My point was that many gamers (like you) cannot be bothered with playing ANY games on a handheld - for similar reasons as the ones you pointed out.

                          It's a totally different market.

                          So much so, that Capcom can take care of home console gamers with both ORC and RE6, and they can also work on building a fanbase on modern handhelds. This is more relevant now because of how fancy they've becoming. Being able to provide console-like experiences on Vita and 3DS.
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                          • #14
                            The original source for this is apparently 4chan. I will leave it at that.
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                            • #15
                              Yeah, none of this rings true to me. Many sites picking up on an unsubstantiated rumour on a slow news day isn't a good enough reason to believe it.

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