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  • #16
    Originally posted by Darkmoon
    they wanna fuck like bunnies; they aren't in love. Being attracted is one thing, but that was silly. Not to mention Ada was lying to him the whole time about...well, everything most likely.
    I don't know why you deny the fact they were in love during RE2. Ada used Leon and lied several times, yes. But the end of the game made it crystal clear that Ada had fallen in love with him.

    And I think her RE3 epilogue in japanese mentions "the man she loved" or something like that.

    Because how many people fall in love in hours?
    Well, under ordinary circumstances, not much. But, you said it, they are put under very stressful situations, so it explains why Ada fell in love with Leon. There's no other explanation anyway.

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    • #17
      Leon took a bullet for Ada, hard to argue this didn't have an affect on how she felt about him.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Grem View Post
        I don't know why you deny the fact they were in love during RE2. Ada used Leon and lied several times, yes. But the end of the game made it crystal clear that Ada had fallen in love with him.

        And I think her RE3 epilogue in japanese mentions "the man she loved" or something like that.
        I don't deny they were in love - I'm saying it's shitty, unbelievable writing for them to be in love after such a short time.

        Originally posted by Grem View Post
        Well, under ordinary circumstances, not much. But, you said it, they are put under very stressful situations, so it explains why Ada fell in love with Leon. There's no other explanation anyway.
        There isn't, and that's why it's so awful - even if you go for love at first sight it's still weird as hell.

        Add into that they show exactly no physical desire for each other until she doesn't die...

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        • #19
          When I played through RE2, taking a bullet was not part of my original plan.
          See you in hell.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mr. Spencer View Post
            I'm afraid I fall in with the 'Chris should die' crowd. But it must be a heroic death, an act of self-sacrifice for which he will be always remembered.

            Meanwhile, Leon must shuffle through life as a shameful coward.
            Ahem... Leon is a badass, therefore your argument is invalid.

            Originally posted by News Bot View Post
            To be fair, it happens for two reasons officially:

            1) Leon is a sucker for pussy.
            2) Ada is attracted to his single-minded devotion to putting himself in harm's way for others (she is later attracted to Luis Sera's "humanity").

            After the game, they both shrug off their feelings. It's difficult to tell where they both stand on it now, but they don't love each other.
            I wouldn't say that. Some of the events of RE4 made it pretty clear he still has some feelings for Ada, and as I recall, the other way around.

            Originally posted by Mr. Spencer View Post
            When I played through RE2, taking a bullet was not part of my original plan.
            That's never anybody's plan, but it happened. Now because of that one small act of self sacrifice, a whole legion of LeonXAda shippers were born. It's a scary, regrettable fact of life. XD
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            • #21
              A fling is hardly much of a bond. Leon is a delusional psychopath.

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              • #22
                If characters have to die to give some of the storylines resolution, then that's fine. I want resolution more than anything else. Capcom wants to launch the series in a new direction? Fine. Give our old buddies proper denouements first.
                Last edited by Tyrant Rose; 05-14-2012, 01:22 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tyrant Rose View Post
                  If characters have to die to give some of the storylines resolution, then that's fine. I want resolution more than anything else. Capcom wants to launch the series in a new direction? Fine. Give our old buddies proper denouements first.
                  I'm okay with this.

                  I wanted Chris to retire in RE5 since he's my favorite character and I didn't like the way the series was headed. Then RE5 came out and I was highly disappointed, so much that I was hoping that he'd been in one last game for a proper farewell. RE6 looks promising thus far and it's a perfect time to call it quits. We know Sherry is doing fine and not locked in Wesker's basement or a government guinea pig, so there's some friendship for his sister.

                  Jill is possibly retired and ready to settle down (It's real to me damn it!), he finally meets Leon (on screen) and even tries to punch him in his one liner, Wesker's dead, Barry's in a retirement home and Chris isn't getting any younger. The new blood has arrived.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Det. Beauregard View Post
                    Why wouldn't they make her attractive? Main female characters are rarely unattractive in games, as it is simply bad marketing. This goes for male characters, too, but there's a bit more leeway there since the demographic these kinds of games are marketed towards are generally younger males.
                    Barry "over-the-hill" Burton and Parker "PHAT" Luciani say hi. Both are not exactly pretty boys.

                    And it's funny you assume that the older male demographic is somehow less captivated by a good looking character model. They can be just as superficial. Most older guys (who can afford it) go after a trophy wife, for instance.

                    Anyway... If we gonna start killing off characters, let's start with the shameless HUNK rip-offs that tried (and failed) to steal his glorious personality traits. Even by wearing masks (all of them) and wearing a black attire. Fuck those mini-me's. They're like those Boba Fett copycats that were introduced years ago in several games and EU novels. Trying to steal his thunder.
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                    • #25
                      I think he misunderstood what I meant so I'll expand my reasons. Up till RE6 Sherry was simply the cute kid hiding or getting herself in trouble. She was properly cautious, afraid and vulnerable. Her role in RE2 had some closure brought to it when it was decided she was in government protection. At least it wasn't expected that she would be out in line of fire anytime soon. That's why people initially believed Sherry was Ashley because an older character with some form of vulnerability to her made the pieces fit in. And Ashley was also a character protected by the Government because of her father.

                      Now that Sherry's older the story has made it so that she's a tough character fully capable of fighting B.O.W.s. Like Leon, they've turned her into a Government agent as an excuse to give her some experience in combat and defensive maneuvers. So the attraction is that she's going to be the next female lead capable of handling herself as other characters such as Jill have been made to do.

                      At least that's the idea. I don't know the extent of her new "powers" yet or how that will factor in the game play. She may play off less like "Claire" and more like "Alice" in the skills department. But in terms of how she looks she'll obviously appeal to a certain demographic. If not from her character, then Capcom will find away to grab attention with some gimmicky bonus costume.
                      Last edited by Smiley; 05-14-2012, 04:00 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Both Sherry and Jake are definitely going to be inspired on Milla Jovovich's Alice persona. Catering to the crowd that keeps making the movies such a big hit and hoping to get them to adopt the games as well.

                        Before you know it, it's no longer about regular humans trying to survive incredible odds. But merely a videogame about supermen/women and the end of the world.
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                        • #27
                          I've made that claim in previous topics. That's part of why I'm not exactly jumping at joy for the game play. But as far as them being characters the devs noted that Jake and Sherry will have different personalities and goals in mind.

                          Jake is all about the Benjamins. Sherry is more compassionate. No doubt this will play out in the plot where Jake learns to be less of a rogue and more humane the more time he spends with Sherry. We've seen this play out all to often before.

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                          • #28
                            Nothing original there, alright.

                            But then these are videogames not movies or books. We expect this sort of thing. No wonder Roger Ebert says games are not art... yet.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                              I think he misunderstood what I meant so I'll expand my reasons. Up till RE6 Sherry was simply the cute kid hiding or getting herself in trouble. She was properly cautious, afraid and vulnerable. Her role in RE2 had some closure brought to it when it was decided she was in government protection. At least it wasn't expected that she would be out in line of fire anytime soon.
                              I think it's safe to say Capcom always had a plan to bring Sherry back if only because of the ambiguity of her fate (In government custody or kidnapped by Wesker? Cured of the G virus or was it merely dormant?). It's been 14 years since we saw Sherry. Isn't that "long enough"? And how is it bad that she can now do something besides cry and slow you down?

                              Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                              Now that Sherry's older the story has made it so that she's a tough character fully capable of fighting B.O.W.s. Like Leon, they've turned her into a Government agent as an excuse to give her some experience in combat and defensive maneuvers. So the attraction is that she's going to be the next female lead capable of handling herself as other characters such as Jill have been made to do.

                              At least that's the idea. I don't know the extent of her new "powers" yet or how that will factor in the game play. She may play off less like "Claire" and more like "Alice" in the skills department. But in terms of how she looks she'll obviously appeal to a certain demographic. If not from her character, then Capcom will find away to grab attention with some gimmicky bonus costume.
                              From what little we've seen in the trailers, I can't say Sherry looks too confident or badass yet. She looks like...an adult version of herself. Huh. Funny that. She's been tossed into this mess as much as anyone else. I fully expect her "protective duty" gig to be a running joke in the game. Also, we've been told that she has special abilities from her G virus exposure...but does she know that yet?

                              I will agree with you on one point: I wish she wasn't working for the U.S. Government. I'd always hoped that Sherry ended up with the Organization or Wesker and that the next time we saw her, she'd be a villain. It looks like they're going the dark-and-twisty route with Jake instead. But as I've said in other threads, it seems like redemption is going to be a major theme in RE6, so I guess it fits.

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                              • #30
                                I wouldn't say that. Some of the events of RE4 made it pretty clear he still has some feelings for Ada, and as I recall, the other way around.
                                I would, their official biographies state as such. There's a lingering bond due to their experiences together and previous feelings, but they aren't in love like in BH2.
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