Biohazard Outbreak Survive

[Mrox2]

SF3 was an arcade game. Outbreak was not. Both are very different games. It's not a very good comparison.

Operation Raccoon City sold primarily on brand power and with the appeal to the "shooter" crowd. Mercenaries 3D didn't really sell that well or get a lot of public attention, but it was relatively cheap to develop so it wasn't much of a problem. Revelations outsold it, but didn't sell as well due to failed "word-of-mouth" marketing, being released on the 3DS, and being released only a month before a more widely available game in the series.

The same as with Outbreak ....
That doesnt stop them from making a sequel or ports / Remakes though ....

[News Bot]

The same as with Outbreak ....
That doesnt stop them from making a sequel or ports / Remakes though ....

Outbreak was heavily promoted and it was on the best-selling console. It had no reason for selling poorly other than the fact that a lot of people simply didn't like it. Why re-release a financial disaster? It's possible the market has changed since then and rose-tinted glasses will persuade a lot of people to buy it again, while others will be wondering what the fuss is about and probably end up disappointed.

The only way a re-release would be acceptable is if they included all of the original scenarios along with the ones that were planned to be released in a third iteration (and then whatever else). No separation between the first Outbreak and File 2, either. One complete game. But that would cost more money and I doubt CAPCOM is that concerned with adding new content to their HD-makes.

[Darkmoon]

Have they ever added anything to any of the HD remakes? Other than updated graphics?

[Dracarys]

Have they ever added anything to any of the HD remakes? Other than updated graphics?

In a couple cases if a different region had extra content, such as Ico in Europe, they use the extra content. Though on others, like MGS3, they remove it. I think they Sly trilogy added some Move minigames.

Generally, no. With Capcom, hell no (except perhaps voice chat?).

Oh, Silent Hill VA, of course.

Edit: Tell a lie, THe chronicles games got auto-aim option, RE4/CVX got leaderboards for campaign.

[News Bot]

Have they ever added anything to any of the HD remakes? Other than updated graphics?

They changed the lighting in CODE:Veronica, and I believe they also remade the game in the MT Framework engine? Something like that. Doesn't seem all that different to me.

[Gradon]

Didn't they just port the game to the MT Framework engine and then apply the lighting effects? Especially with the lighter... It's practically running an old game in a new engine with better lighting. It did add to the atmosphere I admit, but generally, HD Remakes don't get any extra content. Rehash for a quick buck. Pah.

[randomwab]

If we get another Resident Evil HD Collection, it'll be of Outbreak 1 & 2. It's one of the most requested on Capcom's Community site, it requires far less work than bringing REmake abe Zero over and the original game did sell well in every region. Outbreak's problems were mainly it being an online game for a console which few people had online. The single player suffered because of this too, because it was the same game with terrible friendly AI. On current gen consoles with almost everyone online and voice chat, dumping the ten Outbreak scenarios with updated resolution and online at a decent price would work out well.

[Stu]

Agree with all of that...in principle.

But if Capcom weren't willing to add online co-op into HD re-releases like the Chronicles games, i can't see many people having faith in them doing so for Outbreak.

[Det. Beauregard]

If we get another Resident Evil HD Collection, it'll be of Outbreak 1 & 2. It's one of the most requested on Capcom's Community site, it requires far less work than bringing REmake abe Zero over and the original game did sell well in every region.

The backgrounds weren't pre-rendered, so they'd pretty much just have to do what they did to CVX, right? Upgrade lighting, textures, etc.

The single player suffered because of this too, because it was the same game with terrible friendly AI.

But unlike RE5, it wasn't required to keep your AI partner(s) alive. You could play a mission solo and it could be just as much fun.

[randomwab]

But if Capcom weren't willing to add online co-op into HD re-releases like the Chronicles games, i can't see many people having faith in them doing so for Outbreak.

As nice as it would be to have online co-op for the Chronicles games, it's not as integral to the experience as it would be for Outbreak. They'd have to get the online working for it.

Unless they were wanting to pull another Euro Outbreak 1 release and kill the re-releases dead before they had a chance. Actually, given the Capcom of recent, that's not fucking unlikely.

The backgrounds weren't pre-rendered, so they'd pretty much just have to do what they did to CVX, right? Upgrade lighting, textures, etc.

Sadly, no. Both REmake and Zero are pre-rendered which is, at a guess, why they haven't seen the HD treatment yet. They both require more work then RE4, CVX and presumably the Outbreaks.

It makes too much sense for Capcom to just go back and recapture the backgrounds in 1080p with widescreen, but that's if they actually still have the 3D data for the backgrounds. It might sound insane, but considering what we've seen this generation with Japanese developers maintaining assets (Okami's gold code missing when it came to making the Wii port, the same for both Silent Hill 2 and 3 when it came to their HD collections), Capcom simply might not have the required resources to do even that.

That's why I'd assume we'd see Outbreak 1 and 2 before the Gamecube exclusives; it's just too easy to port them over, widen the aspect ratio and recode where the servers are pointing.

It should also be noted that a ton of Outbreak assets have been reused a ton in both the Chronicles games. Hurts me seeing them Outbreak streets again.

But unlike RE5, it wasn't required to keep your AI partner(s) alive. You could play a mission solo and it could be just as much fun.

Oh yeah, no doubt and no one will argue that more than me. I love Outbreak lonewolf. Sadly, the majority of people who did (and will if they are re-released) play Outbreak single would have come across this in their initial playthroughs, and it usually colours their opinion. I'd hope if they re-released them, Lonewolf would be automatically open from the start, along with the various harder difficulties and all stages open.

[rehunk88]

I So want outbreak to come back with new suported servers they could make so much cash ! playstation 2 online was the test ... psn is the real deal.. they would make so much money.

[Mr. Spencer]

What shafted Outbreak was the fact that the online architecture for the time wasn't sufficient for it. Plus the single player didn't have enough to keep people coming back. But if it had the network of today then it would easily have a lot of players.

[Det. Beauregard]

What shafted Outbreak was the fact that the online architecture for the time wasn't sufficient for it. Plus the single player didn't have enough to keep people coming back. But if it had the network of today then it would easily have a lot of players.

I agree that it was ahead of its time. But I don't agree with this, as it kept me coming back until 2008, and it would have gone until now (except my brother took the PS2 with him when he moved to California, the asshat).

Outbreak was just so advanced; it's hard for me not to see what a marvel it was. The Raccoon City outbreak was iconic, and being able to play as the average citizen was nothing short of extraordinary. To be honest, all eight of the main Outbreak characters were more detailed than any of the main characters of the series, and it's not like I'm some Outbreak fanboy or anything. Just calling it how I see it.

[rehunk88]

Outbreak could last on psn online until we get a ps4 for sure... it would sell so great.
capcom! you should really think about it. there is alot of money in it.

[Dracarys]

Outbreaks online was shit, its online features outdone by several other PS2 titles long before it released and even more afterwards. Sorry but these 'ahead of its time' claims are laughable. It was a dinosaur in design before it even released.

Clearly no outbreak player ever played games like the SOCOM series, Battlefield Modern Combat, the CoD games, Fifa, FF XI, Battlefront and many more.