Do you think Ada Wong is truly evil or secretly good?

[Guest]

How can he let go of "the part of him he can't let go"? Obviously, he's taken with her to the point that he let her get away in RE4 when we know damn well he could have shot her before she got on the chopper. I highly doubt that Angela worked out in the scheme of things, and I think we'll find that out in RE6. He's been set on missions back to back since the Javier deal. Not much time for a steady gal-friend who's an SRT member in a hokey Police Department.

I know that, but if I were Leon, I would beat the fuck out of Ada.

[News Bot]

Yes, but the "best" is entirely subjective; if Ada happened to be a psychotic "the world is mine" kind of villain, the "best" would be furthering her own world-dominating goals. If this is the case, she told Leon what she did so he wouldn't worry about what she was going to do with the sample. Remember that this is a woman who makes her living by lying and being manipulative. Leon just feels lust; there's no way two people fall in love in just a few hours, even under the extreme circumstances of RE2. If I had to look at Ashley's face, I'd be thinking of Ada, too...

I truly hope she is evil in RE6, solely because I can't take the ridiculous stupidity of a clone plot of the magnitude that has been suggested. It would be a new kind of retarded for this series, and we all know it's had its fair share of "WTF?!" moments.

Nothing is subjective when the writers state it over, and over, and over again. It's not just Ada who states it. Neither Leon or Ada love each other, either. This is also stated. They have a lingering mutual attraction, at best. And again, Leon himself believes Ada to be "good" based on her statement at the end of the game, and nothing in her report or Separate Ways (or the series in general) hints at her being a villain. In fact, she is portrayed as the opposite. She is even attracted to Luis because of his "humanity" (like Leon), in fact.

And there is nothing retarded about the clone plot provided it is explained sufficiently. Cloning (like superhumans) has always been a huge part of the series and it is one of the reasons the plot has even been able to continue to this point. As long as it is handled well and isn't just thrown in for cheap drama, there is nothing wrong with it.

I would still really like to see a source for where the "Ada = Villain" speculation comes from. I can assure you that nothing of the sort exists in the series outside of set few people's imaginations.

[rehunk88]

Leon is there, so she will take side with him.

[Dracarys]

If Ada was good she would never have taken the G-Virus out of Raccoon City and instead left it to be destroyed. Same with the Master plaga sample, and if Leon believed she was good at the end of RE4 she would never have needed point a gun at his head.

[News Bot]

If Ada was good she would never have taken the G-Virus out of Raccoon City and instead left it to be destroyed. Same with the Master plaga sample, and if Leon believed she was good at the end of RE4 she would never have needed point a gun at his head.

Dominant species Plaga. And please read.

She was a spy in Umbrella's rival company for a while. That's about it. After BH2, she is more "human" and becomes "good".

Her scenario in Umbrella Chronicles was made primarily to highlight this fact.

She points a gun at Leon in order to make him hand over the sample, since at that moment, he is unaware of her true motives. Then, as soon as she boards the helicopter, she reveals that she's doing things for the best, giving Leon peace of mind. Her "I'll take goooood care of it" line is a pathetic mistranslation of a line that is actually meant to be her confessing that her objectives are benevolent.

Then the series writers confirm that she is "good" in Archives II.

[Darkmoon]

I gotta admit, I don't think there's really an answer. It's like someone who hunts down and murders a serial sexual predator - while the goal, eliminating such scum, is good, the means are probably evil. Of course, I don't like Black and White morality...it never happens in the real world, why should it happen in a decent story? Leon probably screws family pets and Chris is addicted to freshly harvested human organ pie.

On an off topic note; I am wondering is rather than Ada being a clone of Carla (or vice versa) both women are a clone of someone else. It would make more sense, given there apparently age similarities and the many, many, many problems with aging a clone rapidly.

[Dracarys]

the many, many, many problems with aging a clone rapidly.

Didn't you see the Sixth Day?

[News Bot]

Pending the actual game, apparently, the C-Virus chrysalid cocoons can create literal clones with no need for ageing. The resulting creatures presumably grow and mature within the cocoon.

[Darkmoon]

Didn't you see the Sixth Day?

Surprisingly, no. I remember the basic premise, but tend to avoid Ah-nald flicks and have for years.

Pending the actual game, apparently, the C-Virus chrysalid cocoons can create literal clones with no need for ageing. The resulting creatures presumably grow and mature within the cocoon.

Maturing the body is only one problem (albeit one that would be hideously difficult to do without causing all sorts of negative side effects) but what you'd get wouldn't be a clone of Ada ready for action - you'd get her body (without anything like physical changes caused by exercise and diet, so unable to do the things Ada/Carla can physically) with a blank brain. It would actually be even worse than being a baby - an adult brain isn't formed in the same way as an infant one, designed to absorb information and learn, and so it would takes years of training to make them anything like useful.

Of course, they could handwave it all away with, 'Umbrella's Magic Brain Transfer Machine' or some such shit, but that's...exceptionally awkward. Umbrella's already overly far ahead in several ways - ten or twenty years in terms of cloning and genetic manipulation. But it would have to be way further than that to be able to copy someone's brain. If there's one organ we understand less than our genetic structure, it's how exactly our brain works. And that's assuming another company mysterious has Umbrella's abilities with cloning and 'brain transfer'.

Frankly, it would be a hell of a lot easier to just have them cloned from someone else 30 years ago. Or at least require somewhat less handwavium.

[I_Am_Nemesis]

I never thought of Ada as evil, but then I never thought of her as a protagonist either. Shes always had an affinity for leon, which is why she likes to help him out every now and again, but shes not exactly on his side.
However from what we have seen from the adverts for the new film it pretty much looks like shes gone full blown devil woman, unless thats just what capcom want us to think by taking scenes out of context that make her look bad.

[Dracarys]

Maturing the body is only one problem (albeit one that would be hideously difficult to do without causing all sorts of negative side effects) but what you'd get wouldn't be a clone of Ada ready for action - you'd get her body (without anything like physical changes caused by exercise and diet, so unable to do the things Ada/Carla can physically) with a blank brain. It would actually be even worse than being a baby - an adult brain isn't formed in the same way as an infant one, designed to absorb information and learn, and so it would takes years of training to make them anything like useful.

Of course, they could handwave it all away with, 'Umbrella's Magic Brain Transfer Machine' or some such shit, but that's...exceptionally awkward. Umbrella's already overly far ahead in several ways - ten or twenty years in terms of cloning and genetic manipulation. But it would have to be way further than that to be able to copy someone's brain. If there's one organ we understand less than our genetic structure, it's how exactly our brain works. And that's assuming another company mysterious has Umbrella's abilities with cloning and 'brain transfer'.

Frankly, it would be a hell of a lot easier to just have them cloned from someone else 30 years ago. Or at least require somewhat less handwavium.

There has been much theory about genetic memory, that memory can be held in RNA and DNA. Is very easy to take this further in the RE universe. Memories do not make a person, is entirely possible a clone could have Ada's knowledge until creation while a different personality. Plus Umbrella already done indoctrination with project Wesker.

[News Bot]

Assassin's Creed be damned.

[Rancid Cheese]

She's probably a Snape type character (Harry Potter: spoilers maybe) in cahoots with shady characters in order to take them down from the inside, doing all these things for the better good. She probably works for a government organisation like a proper counter-measure organisation (perhaps without her knowing their motive). It's just as likely since she's so intent on aquiring all the various samples. Or maybe she keeps them all on her mantelpiece next to the scented candles, god women are obsessed with scented candles . . .

[Code_R]

I always figured she was just out for herself, good and evil doesn't come into it, just pragmatism.

I am wondering is rather than Ada being a clone of Carla (or vice versa) both women are a clone of someone else. It would make more sense, given there apparently age similarities and the many, many, many problems with aging a clone rapidly.

Dumber things have happened though

[AsteroidBlues]

Wow, THIA is pretty divided so far. I never thought my little poll would bring so much division to light... This means that it all must be settled with a pool noodle duel.