Resident Evil Damnation

[alexdz]

Also, the plagas that Ada refused to hand over, I assume it was one of the newly developed master plagas that could control the lickers, right? If that's the case, that means there are at least two floating around out there- Ada's and the other in the now wheelchair bound "Buddy".

Another thing, what was that scar about on the president's back? It royally confused me, I assumed I had missed something so I went back but couldn't find a reference to it. Anybody have any ideas on that?
[/SPOILER]

The Plaga Buddy had was removed, that's why he's on a wheelchair.

And the scar on Svetlana's back is just a scar, nothing indicates it has any relation with bio-weapons or viruses. Maybe the producers wanted to give her an appearence of a person that's been through a lot but did it in the wrong way because now everyone thinks it's something relevant to the plot.

[Archelon]

Well, it looks like we'll have to wait for an artbook or something if we expect to get some answers regarding the plot. The BluRay extra features explain nothing.

[SPOILER]Another thing I found noteworthy was his upgrade from the 9mm 'Grey Ghost' pistol he used in RE4/Degeneration to a much beefier .45 ACP M1911

Not quite.

It's an STI model.

http://www.pic2fly.com/STI+Pistol+Frames.html

[AsteroidBlues]

The Plaga Buddy had was removed, that's why he's on a wheelchair.

Obviously... What I'm stating is that there are TWO of those master plagas in existence now- The live one that Ada has in her possession and the dead one they pulled from Buddy. That means that the U.S. probably got hold of that specimen.

And the scar on Svetlana's back is just a scar, nothing indicates it has any relation with bio-weapons or viruses. Maybe the producers wanted to give her an appearence of a person that's been through a lot but did it in the wrong way because now everyone thinks it's something relevant to the plot.

Perhaps we'll found out for sure in the future.

Not quite.

It's an STI model.

http://www.pic2fly.com/STI+Pistol+Frames.html

STI frames are slightly modified M1911-A1 pistol frames. So, essentially, that was an M1911.

[Archelon]

I know the frames are similar, but M1911 is a Colt model.

[biohazard_star]

Obviously... What I'm stating is that there are TWO of those master plagas in existence now- The live one that Ada has in her possession and the dead one they pulled from Buddy. That means that the U.S. probably got hold of that specimen.

Didn't Leon just shoot it dead? I'm not sure they actually got around to removing it.

[News Bot]

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

[AsteroidBlues]

I know the frames are similar, but M1911 is a Colt model.

Yes, the 1911 was ORIGINALLY made by colt, but you will see that many companies use the original military schematics to make their own M1911-A1's to sell, which they ALSO call the 1911. They're all M1911's, just made by different manufacturers. The STI frames are 90% original, featuring additions and modifications that "supposedly" improve on the classic 1911 design. You'll see this with many ex- and current military weapons. There are a million companies out there selling AR-15's, but it's still an AR-15 built straight from the military schematics.

Didn't Leon just shoot it dead? I'm not sure they actually got around to removing it.

There is no way that they're going to leave a Plaga to turn to goo inside of him as it rots, they'd have to take it out or he'd die.

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

So, in essence, we won't know shit until the new Archives edition comes out?

[News Bot]

Well I can confirm that Luis didn't develop the dominant species.

[AsteroidBlues]

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

Well, the I assumed that the latter "Master" plaga was manufactured in this way on purpose. The Government was giving them to the elders all in an attempt to make the Rebels look like bio-terrorists. (which they were in the end... but no matter) The plaga gave the rebels control of the lickers so they would eventually attack the Capital with them, thus staging the bio-terror attack the President was planning.

You obviously don't want any one rebel to have such power for long, so you give them an expiration date; I.e. the plaga will turn you into a mindless Ganado after a short period of time thus loosing the lickers from your control. The exclusion of super-human strength was for the same reason.

As for Ada stealing a Plaga that seems outwardly inferior, we have to remember that it did make a huge breakthrough in B.O.W. technology- The ability to control B.O.W.s that are usually to wild and unpredictable to use in a concentrated fashion. As far as I know, the only type of B.O.W. in the RE universe that could be controlled in such a way was the Tyrant, which is a hard beasty to create. Having droves of lickers at one's command is a powerful weapon. A team of scientists could take this plaga and remove the "ganadofication" traits, restore super-human strength, and have one of the most effective Plagas species that the world has ever seen.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

Well I can confirm that Luis didn't develop the dominant species.

Well, didn't material from RE4 state that the Plagas were being used to control the population back when the Salazar family first moved into the region? (shortly before they buried the plagas under the Castle) Wouldn't that indicate that both Master and subordinate species existed in some form at that point?

[vegeta21x]

Whos this Carla i keep hearing about? i never read anything about her in any of the games.

[alexdz]

Whos this Carla i keep hearing about? i never read anything about her in any of the games.

New character from RE6.

[vegeta21x]

New character from RE6.

How come you guys think shes a clone of ada, cuz ada doesnt look like ada anymore? maybe thats cuz of the beefed up character model?
And about what AsteroidBlues says about her, what clues is there that says anything about Carla being a clone of ada?

[alexdz]

How come you guys think shes a clone of ada, cuz ada doesnt look like ada anymore? maybe thats cuz of the beefed up character model?
And about what AsteroidBlues says about her, what clues is there that says anything about Carla being a clone of ada?

Leaked info from months ago. Anything else I say may be spoilers from RE6.

[vegeta21x]

oh ok... i think it would be pretty stupid if there is a clone... copying anything from the movies is BS to me and pretty lame. Like Halo there should have been a bible about the who thing and take the stories from that and not make up some lame BS story to cash in on the movies.

Edit: oh and thanks for not spoiling anything.

[News Bot]

Here is the information contained on the B.O.W. files on Svetlana's desk.

Plaga
B.O.W (Bio Organic Weapon)

The Plaga is a parasitic organism that was sealed in the cellar of the castle of the Salazar family. It was discovered by Ramon Salazar, the 8th lord of the family castle. In Spanish "Plaga" means "disaster" and "Las Plagas" means "parasites". The Plaga cannot live on its own and will die quickly if it doesn't find a host.
Thus to survive, it will attack any nearby organism. Unlike other parasites, the Plaga is a eusocial organism like ants and bees and will create and live in its own colony.

Plagas can live in different organisms and create a mutual link among the host organisms, establishing a unique form of society. The Plaga lays an egg in the human body and as it gradually grows, it attaches itself to the host's central nervous system to control the behavior and actions of the host.

Influences of the Plaga on the human body
The frontal lobe is completely paralyzed

fig. 4-1: A Plaga captured to be dissected to study its structure.
fig. 4-2: Plaga found in the Eastern Slav Republic.
fig. 4-3: CAT scan results show a human (male) brain infected by the Plaga.
fig. 4-4: The parietal lobe of the brain is mainly affected.
fig. 4-5: Plaga clings on the human (male) spine and controls the body.
fig. 4-6: Changes in the cells of the human (male) over time caused by the Plaga.
fig. 4-7: Changes in the state of agitation over time.

Licker
B.O.W (Bio Organic Weapon)

Lickers are the result of the t-Virus' further infestation within infected humans. Their muscle tissues and brains are literally uncovered, and their physical structure is enhanced compared to those of a normal human being. The Licker B is an evolution B.O.W. derived from the Licker.
While the Licker was originally a human infected by the t-Virus, researchers have used the Progenitor Virus to make further enhancements. In the process they ended up creating a whole bunch of Lickers.
The Licker has lost most of its sight. In return, its hearing and sense of smell have increased substantially. Its hands and feet grow large claws that allow it to crawl on ceilings. When it sense prey, it lands on the floor and attacks its prey with its claws.

Several Lickers were witnessed in many areas of the civil war battlefield, fig. 3-1 (a) shows the expansion of damaged areas.

Cerberus
B.O.W (Bio Organic Weapon)

Cerberus is considered difficult to differentiate from a Zombie Dog, since both are derived from a Doberman.
However, Cerberus' origin is technically different and thus the two cannot be categorized as identical breeds.
The Zombie Dog was born from a Doberman feeding on t-Virus contaminated food, while Cerberus was created when scientists gave a Doberman a dosage of the t-Virus.

Cerberus has been assigned by its researchers the identification number "MA-39".
Cerberus, known to be very violent in nature, has the ability to attack its target in a pack. Cerberus is a B.O.W. considered cheap to create while being a highly effective military weapon. For this reason, Umbrella considers Cerberus a successful case of the use of the t-Virus.

Fig 1-1 (a): The "t-virus" has been detected from the specimen sample of the undead.
Fig 1-1 (b): The image shows the expansion of the virus up to 30mm in diameter.
Fig 1-2: An infected "Cerberus" found in a damaged area of Eastern Europe. Characteristics of turning into an undead have already started appearing on its body.
Fig 1-3: Another "Cerberus" found at the same place as fig. 1-2. Those bitten by the Cerberus will die and turn into zombies.