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  • The Organization

    What exactly do we know about it/them?

    I was hoping in the lead-up to RE5 that it would be revealed to be Tricell, or what was it, "S?" Regardless, I personally have always been intrigued by this part of the series' canon, but it seems to have been shrouded in mystery more and more each game.

    You'd think with how much we've seen of Ada and Wesker we'd know more about it. Was Wesker aligned with them? If so, for how long? Was he with them when he collected BOW combat data from the STARS/Arklay Mansion incident? Was he working for anyone during RE5 or was he completely rogue by then, not aligning himself with any pharmaceutical or BOW organizations? How did Ada factor into this "Organization?"

    Maybe we'll learn it's actually been a U.S. government agency this entire time; the same one Simmons is working for or leading in RE6.

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    Without posting reams and reams of text, here is a very brief history:

    They are the rival company to Umbrella, their biggest competitor. They may be affiliated with the government.

    They are not 'S'. 'S' was confirmed to be a place holder for Tricell as proven by the script to Biohazard Degeneration.

    *Ada Wong has always worked for them, as far as we know. She was sent to infiltrate Umbrella to gather information on the t-Virus. She became romantically involved with John Clemens, Chief Researcher at Arklay, which allowed her to gain access to the mansion. It was through her romantic manipulation of John that Ada also learned of the in-development G-Virus that was currently being developed in Raccoon City.
    However, the t-Virus spill meant Ada had to abort the mission and left the mansion without acquiring any samples of the t-Virus.

    *They also approached Albert Wesker with an invitation to join them. Wesker planned to leave Umbrella and steal all the combat data on the B.O.W. He also wanted to collect the combat data on the T-002 and present it to The Organization as a gift to show an example of his influence and usefulness. However, the actions of Chris, Jill and Sergei Vladimir prevented him from doing this. However, he still escaped with a sample of the t-Virus and associated samples to present to The Organization after the incident.

    *Wesker and Ada worked together to get a G-Virus sample for The Organization during the Raccoon City incident. They were successful.

    *HCF is the special forces unit of The Organization. Wesker utilized them to attack Rockfort Island. After recovering Steve's body, The Organization became the only company in the world to have a sample of the t-Veronica Virus.

    *They were very active on the B.O.W. market.

    *They provided B.O.W.s to Javier Hidalgo's Sacred Snakes crime syndicate.

    *They developed the Jabberwock S3, the first B.O.W. created using t-Veronica.

    *They also created the Hunter II and Sweeper sub-species thanks to the stolen data from Wesker. This resulted in Umbrella abandoning the Hunter Program and developing the Anubis as an alternative.

    THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO THEORY TERRITORY:

    *Wesker was becoming too influential in The Organization for some people's tastes and they wanted rid of him. They referred to him as an 'uncontrollable spark that could burn the organization from the inside out'.

    *Following Wesker's retrieval of UMF-013 from Russia. He kept it to himself and did not inform The Organization. By this point he was planning on forming his own organization as the catalyst to a plan to resurrect Umbrella under his command. He began recruiting followers he knew would be loyal to him such as Jack Krauser who had originally joined The Organization in 2002 following Operation Javier.

    *He also approached Excella Gionne about an alliance with Tricell. He needed their resources to help build up his own organization, (the 3rd Organization).

    *The Organization discovered Wesker had been in contact with Tricell behind their backs following Umbrella's demise.

    *In 2004 likely due to their past experiences, Wesker approached Ada Wong to join his '3rd Organization'. Ada complied, but was secretly still working for The Organization and was reporting back to them. The leaders of her organization did not entirely trust her and saw it as a test of loyalty; either to them, or Wesker.

    *Following the events of Biohazard 4, Ada betrayed the 3rd Organization and Wesker.

    *By 2004/2005, The Organization is the only company to have a real Control Plaga sample.

    *Wesker drained all of the 3rd Organization's resources looking for Spencer. By the time he found him in 2006, Spencer's revelation to him about his plans caused Wesker to abandon his goal of resurrecting Umbrella and instead take over Spencer's plan of becoming a god over a new race of super humans.

    So that's it in a nutshell from memory, though I'm sure News Bot can give you a more detailed analysis. As for Ada and The Organization, hopefully Damnation or Biohazard 6 will resolve their fate in one form or another. I'll bet Simmons is involved with them somehow.
    Last edited by TheBatMan; 07-19-2012, 05:53 AM.
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    • #3
      I hope Simmons is involved in the Organization, maybe even a higher up in it! would be the perfect way to bring the organization into the light in a big way.

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      • #4
        "The organization" Ada mentions in her report is not the rival company. That should be noted.

        Right now it is unknown whether Wesker took over the rival company or created his own secret organization. All that is known is that he gained a high position due to his collection of various samples.
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        • #5
          My theory:

          I think The Organization is some kind of a US govermant project. If I am not mistaken US were the biggest Umbrella's customer so it was logical they wanted to start their own BOW reaserch. Spying on Umbrella was just the begging. Later they acquired G-virus, T-Veronica virus and Las Plagas. Head of the Organization is most probbaly Simmons. President at the begging of RE6 was about to expose all of this and stop the project once for all...

          C-virus can actually be combination of all of the viruses they have collected. Strain that creat J'avo is mixed with Las Plagas. It all adds up.
          Spoiler:

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          • #6
            I think your right Dark Chris, the Organization being a government based project would tie Simmons right into it. Having Leon and the rest of the crew fighting the power of the government itself would make for one hell of a story and rollercoaster ride.

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            • #7
              Remind me again, why does Wesker provide all the aquired virus' to Tricell, what was his gain out of that deal?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by [STARS]TyranT View Post
                Remind me again, why does Wesker provide all the aquired virus' to Tricell, what was his gain out of that deal?
                Their resources.

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                • #9
                  The resources to start the research on Uroboros I guess.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                    "The organization" Ada mentions in her report is not the rival company. That should be noted.

                    Right now it is unknown whether Wesker took over the rival company or created his own secret organization. All that is known is that he gained a high position due to his collection of various samples.
                    Yes, I forgot the perfect capture guide to Bio 4 refers to the rival company as the '3rd Organization', so obviously Wesker is still with them until 2004. But I am still leaning towards the theory that he was trying to form his own breakaway movement. This would explain why he needed Tricell's resources and how he could bankrupt his organization in his search for Spencer.

                    I can't for a second believe that this rival company, Umbrella's biggest rivals, would be able to be completely drained of resources because of Wesker's search for Spencer.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheBatMan View Post
                      Yes, I forgot the perfect capture guide to Bio 4 refers to the rival company as the '3rd Organization', so obviously Wesker is still with them until 2004. But I am still leaning towards the theory that he was trying to form his own breakaway movement. This would explain why he needed Tricell's resources and how he could bankrupt his organization in his search for Spencer.

                      I can't for a second believe that this rival company, Umbrella's biggest rivals, would be able to be completely drained of resources because of Wesker's search for Spencer.
                      His file in BH5 also says that he used the Plaga to gain a higher position within the rival company, and he's still with them in the "Report On Ada" even though I cast some doubt over how valid it really is. I'm sure he was trying to establish his own organization too, his own "umbrella" which could harbor his ambition, but he needed the rival company and TRICELL for it, and lost the former.

                      Wesker gave Excella the t-Virus, t-Veronica, technology and the Umbrella Archives in order to gain a position within TRICELL, manipulating her in the meantime in order to do his bidding. After 2006, he brought the Plaga to them as a means to gain further funding for Uroboros.

                      As for the rival company's resources being drained, anything is possible with forced logic. The person who wrote this particular plot point is the very person who admitted that they use a lot of forced logic in the series when necessary; Tsukasa Takenaka.

                      EDIT: Ada's Report actually confirms what I said. No idea why I constantly forget this line.

                      To him, Umbrella was once a symbol of power, which could be used to support and realize one's ambitions.
                      However, the "umbrella" was torn, and that fantasy was shattered.

                      The masters of the dark plot, who lost their protection, have scattered, and now squirm in their quest for a new "umbrella".
                      They hate the light of the sun. Because it makes them aware of their own ugliness.
                      Wesker intends to raise a new larger and stronger "umbrella."
                      In BH4, he's still with the rival company but is also in the middle of forming his own organization ("The 3rd Organization"). At the same time, Ada is with another organization altogether, but also still with the rival company and Wesker. She betrays both. In the end, Wesker depletes the rival company and simply abandons his "umbrella" organization, and focuses on the Uroboros Project with TRICELL.
                      Last edited by News Bot; 07-19-2012, 12:10 PM.
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                      • #12
                        See, I always assumed that when they are referring to 'The Organization' one of the main reasons CAPCOM has not given a name for it is because it doesn't have a name. I'll explain my theory in a sec.

                        Our first piece of evidence: Resident Evil 2.

                        Annette Birkin as she points her gun towards Leon says something along the lines that Ada was sent there by 'The Agency'. I don't know if this is a translation error but it may not be. The name itself, The Agency, is a reference to one of the executive branches in the United States Government, more specifically the CIA (no, not Culinary Institute of America).

                        Our next piece of evidence: Resident Evil 3: Nemesis

                        Ada's epilogue file refers to her scars as being one of her identities that she used for that mission. She also romantically fell in love with John so that she could get close to Umbrella's viral research as a spy for the CIA. Lore of the CIA is that their agents use different identities to fit inside groups in order to collect information on them. This would fit in with the identity change of saying these were Adas scars. She also refers to as preparing for the next mission, which possibly could be changing her identity for the CIA.

                        Our next piece of evidence: Resident Evil Code: Veronica

                        This is going to be a little more speculative then the above.

                        Steve Burnside tells Claire that Umbrella discovered that his father was going to sell/give information to a rival organization. Of course they are caught and brought to Rock fort Island. It is possible that the assault on the island was in response so that not only could they get the t-veronica sample but they could shut his dad up in the meantime. The purpose of the CIA is to keep things a secret and if you squeal on them you usually end up dead or it's a 'suicide' or you just disappear. H.C.F. could be a special forces group set up by the CIA.

                        Now just some speculation:

                        The Organization itself. Ada refers to it as The Organization later on in Resident Evil 4 and I believe CAPCOM refers to it all the same as that but it's not technically an actual name. It is possible that the CIA set up a rival corporation (dummy corporation) that deals in bio-weaponry. After all, the United States not only prefers to ensure that in the name of justice that no one else has these capabilities but that they should be the only one's able to handle it.

                        Like I said, it's all speculative and it's just my theory on the matter.

                        Edit: Oh and I guess RE6 seems to be all about the elements within the U.S. Government being the bad guys. So it's either a military-industrial complex type of deal or you could use that as part of the speculation also. Only time will tell. Could possibly be wrong. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
                        Last edited by Reston; 07-19-2012, 12:36 PM.

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                        • #13
                          "The Agency" was a mistranslation. Annette actually says "a certain/some organization".

                          Ada is already confirmed to be an industrial spy, and the word for rival company in Japanese literally means a rival business or enterprise, so it's a corporation rather than a government agency.

                          It's not mentioned who Steve's father was selling information to, just that he was selling information.

                          Dummy corporation sounds much more likely.

                          However, Ada doesn't work for or even mention the rival company in BH4, so they aren't "the organization" she mentions in her report. In fact, it's not featured, referred to or mentioned at all in any material related to BH4 except for a small bit in the game's "Perfect Capture" guide (released before Separate Ways, so doesn't make note of the plot in that) and a heavy bit in the "Report On Ada" in the Kaitai Shinsho guide, where they are the focus. They are caught in the middle between Ada's organization and Wesker's "umbrella", and are suspicious of both of them and attempt to use them to keep each other in check and prevent any betrayals. It backfires, Ada betrays them and Wesker takes further control over them.
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                          • #14
                            At the same time, Ada is with another organization altogether, but also still with the rival company and Wesker. She betrays both. In the end, Wesker depletes the rival company and simply abandons his "umbrella" organization, and focuses on the Uroboros Project with TRICELL.
                            So who after this is Ada affiliated with, not the Organisation?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by [STARS]TyranT View Post
                              So who after this is Ada affiliated with, not the Organisation?
                              The thing is, there is no such thing as the "Organization". People mistakenly capitalize it for some strange reason, but doing so just confuses the fuck out of everyone as pretty much every faction in the series is referred to as "the organization" at one time or another. Basically:

                              1) Rival company of Umbrella
                              2) Wesker's "umbrella" (The 3rd Organization)
                              3) Ada's organization
                              4) TRICELL / SEASHELL / S

                              The rival company aren't involved in BH4, however, in the "Report On Ada" (which we might as well take as canon until further notice) they order Ada to keep tabs on Wesker, who has organized a mission to steal the Plaga and has gained influence and control over the rival company due to his recovery of valuable samples and data, which he used to rise within the company and gain higher and higher positions. The company thinks he's going to destroy them from the inside out. By now Wesker has beckoned Ada to join "The 3rd Organization", his own secret organization, and the rival company have already suspected her of working for another group. In the end, they hope that by having Ada keep tabs on Wesker and Wesker keep tabs on Ada (who he doesn't fully trust anyway), this will lessen the chances of either of them betraying the company.

                              In the end, Ada betrays both the rival company and Wesker, and returns to another completely unknown organization. Meanwhile Wesker takes further control over the rival company with his acquisition of the Plaga, and begins to form his new "umbrella." However, in 2006, he depletes his organization's (and thus the rival company's) resources in his search for Spencer. In effect, he destroys them from the inside out just as they thought he would.

                              Wesker first gains a position in TRICELL in 2003, but the exact reason why is unknown. It was apparently just to gain access to their resources.
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