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  • #46
    Originally posted by TheSelfishGene View Post
    My problem with DLC-only is that the publisher has a monopoly over their content, and can charge what they want for it. Whereas if it was disc only or DLC and disc, then retail outlets would sell the content for whatever they deem feasible, and in the end this is alot better for consumers.
    It's been left to publishers to determine what's a 'fair' price they can sell their content at, rather than market forces. For example, I can't imagine that some of the Xbox 360 games on demand service are downloaded all that often
    The Games on Demand prices are really wonky. Unfortunately, I think your argument is pretty poor if that's the only sample of Digital Distribution pricing "gone wrong." XBLA/PSN have plenty of titles (some that more or less could've easily been passed off as retail releases for x3 the price they have), Steam also has a lot of titles at a wide variety of (arguably) good prices.

    Besides, the stores are restricted to pricing a to whatever the branch it belongs to demands, which is always more than what they pay per unit (which is also the case if it's not a branch/franchise store); unless they're having a late clearance sale of stuff they didn't sell in the first place, which isn't exactly profitable in anyone's eyes. Store losing money on products that couldn't break even and publishers never getting a chance to ship out a second batch to stores.

    Besides, lots of content distributed digitally drops in price over time. Look at various "hits" on XBLA, or the "Deal of the Week" system for Gold users. Or all the packs on Steam for various games (some of those are a friggin' gold mine.)

    Of course, to some, it's all about resale value and sealed boxes.
    Re-sale value is a curious one! 'Cause if that's a huge and important part of the "deal," I guess the games a person buy aren't really that great in the first place... If they are just use and toss, I mean.

    Originally posted by Branden_Lucero View Post
    because when i'm away and i have no access to Live, what's that gonna do for me when i end up loading my file and it says "this file requires content that is either missing or removed" or whatever i normally get, even though the content IS on my drive.

    hmm? seriously, why don't you explain that situation. this is why i don't download much. when you download an arcade game, and you don't access Live for a certain amount of hours, it ends up saying it a "trial" game, and it must be purchased to unlock the full game.

    seriously, if you buy it, you shouldn't feel strict by it.

    this is why i prefer the disc. if the new content ends up as a dlc, but still offered on disc, i can at least share with other people, because for thing, they don't have control over the content on that disc, i do.
    I made a little snappy comment on about DRM a few posts back. I dunno if you saw it.

    Anyway, since I've repeated it somewhere else before; Here's a little reminder of how the DRM system for content on Xbox LIVE works:

    -> You browse -> You find -> You buy/download (evt. with a trial first, or it was free)

    Now, here's what happens to any content with a DRM lock applied to itself

    1. Gamertag - The content gets tied to the gamertag that bought it. -Giving access to the content for the gamertag, regardless of its whereabouts (as long as it has online access).

    2. Xbox 360 - The content gets tied to the Xbox 360 it was bought on.
    -Giving the initial purchase Xbox 360 full access to the content, regardless of which gamertag is signed in on it.

    Now, of course, if you've bought a new 360 (or had your old one serviced), you might need to do the whole license transfer thingy that Big Stu linked to (which requires redownloading of the DRM protected stuff to update it. This is easily queued up through your download history, either via LIVE or a Xbox.com.)

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    • #47
      I am sure they'll split these coming scenarios (I am sure there's going to be more than one) as episodic content DLC, with added features and tools in each one (think fallout/Oblivion/GTA4 DLC) since they probably can make a price they'll like and have it all coming content sell for the price of the disc all together perhaps. I'm fine either way.

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      • #48
        Hmm... I just thought of an idea. What if Capcom released the scenario via DLC (and maybe another one if it exists) and then LATER packaged them into a physical release with extra "exclusive bonus content?" lol. They would totally do that. Fans always get screwed. Ah, probably not though. Capcom is also pretty lazy when it comes to adding in new content. *looks at how many re-releases of Resident evil games there have been.
        Last edited by djepic112; 10-06-2009, 04:29 AM.

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        • #49
          I want it to be on Disc with the motion controller bundled.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Branden_Lucero View Post
            when you download an arcade game, and you don't access Live for a certain amount of hours, it ends up saying it a "trial" game, and it must be purchased to unlock the full game.
            hahaha no. No it doesn't.

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            • #51
              I'll buy it if I can buy the game as an add on disc or as DLC. I'm not fond enough of RE5 to buy the game again, full price, for a few hours of amusement. Heck, I only got RE4 Wii because it was going exceptionally cheap and it was a friend selling it.

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              • #52
                I personally prefer it on disc, just so i can SEE it in my collection, but in whatever format they chose to release it on, it does'nt really matter to me.

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                • #53
                  I voted for disc (provided it is just the new content so I don't pay for the full game again). I'd rather have a physical copy of the material as opposed to something I have to sign up to Xbox Live to get (like the Versus stuff).
                  Last edited by Det. Beauregard; 10-07-2009, 03:31 PM.
                  Mass production? Ridiculous!

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                  • #54
                    CAPCOM is out of their fucking minds if they put it on a disk and sell it for $60 and making all the loyal fans have to double dip. I mean if push comes to shove most people will still go out and spend the cash bc they love RE but it still isnt right, i know i will be very upset when the $60 is coming out of my pocket again.

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                    • #55
                      Then go vote for DLC...

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                      • #56
                        I don't know about some of you but I still play the original games from time to time 10-13 years after I first bought the originals, using those copies.

                        I like having everything on disc so it is always there. Forever.


                        In another 13 years if I wanna fire up this new scenario on a backwards compatable playstation 4 or 5 will it still be there to download? What happens if my PS3 were to break and I needed a new one after all that time, they will not host it forever.
                        Beanovsky Durst - "They are not pervs. They are japanese."

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                        • #57
                          That's why you have user accounts and various migration systems.

                          Take a look at the Xbox 360 Gamertags!
                          The gamertag itself appeared when LIVE launched last gen. It keeps track of all your Xbox and Xbox 360 purchases, and games... it also acts as an "online handle."
                          The Gamertag is a relative of Windows LIVE and MSN, which, again, are more or less, along with the gamertag, tied to Hotmail... Hotmail's from 1996 ;)


                          As long as a platform doesn't go belly up and no one cares to salvage their legacy; There should be no reason to be concerned.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Carnivol View Post
                            As long as a platform doesn't go belly up and no one cares to salvage their legacy; There should be no reason to be concerned.
                            Well there is, slightly. I kinda see KylieDog's point actually. I mean, what's to say that Microsoft WILL still support these downloads now in another 13 years?

                            Unless i guess KylieDog is playing it on the original hardware, in which case it's a mute point, because you can still do that in 13 years.

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                            • #59
                              I think this whole deal is for the American market right? And since that market includes not only the US & Canada but also Mexico and South America, me thinks that it is best to sell this new edition on a disc cuz not everyone there is connected to the internets (their consoles, that is).

                              Besides, having the disc itself seems to be what most fans of RE5 want.
                              Last edited by Pikminister; 10-07-2009, 07:11 AM.
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                              • #60
                                Let's be completely honest with ourselves, Capcom will blatantly put this out on both formats whatever happens with this vote, it's just more Capcom posturing at the end of the day to show they listen to their fans. Then when they decide to release it on both they'll say "We actually listened to BOTH and came up with this incredible solution to please you all!"

                                Me? Cynical? NEVER!

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