Capcom Bringing MT Framework to Wii?

[BahamutRetsu]

So many assumptions, so little time...What makes it look like i was "over-stimulated"? The fact that i have a different opinion to your own?

But yes, Wii fanboy over here, with all of my six games!

hahaha, thanks for the update!

Again, where did i say that? As far as i can see all i've said is that RE4 controlled really well and there's no reason why RE5 on the Wii couldn't.

The fact that you were typing in caps. That you said I came to prejudice and I said things without thinking about what I say. That you said I make myself look stupid by posting this. All because I think RE5 Wii will suck. You got overstimulated by my opinion, and still are. That means you have problem with my opinion, and I have to ask you: "You got overstimulated because of a fact that I have different opinion to your own?".

Good that you accept your Wii fanboy destiny. You are right, only a Wii fanboy could buy 6 games for a Wii.

No problem, but thank you too!

You didn't say it per se, but you obviously have a problem with my negative RE5 Wii opinion. Normal people could care less, but here you are trying to make me feel shameful for my opinion. That behavior implies that you are very protective of Wii and RE Wii games. That makes you look like a Wii fanboy to me. Maybe you are not. Honestly I could care less. But I would really appreciate it, if you just could calm down, and leave me, my posts, and opinion without your attention. You think RE5 Wii will look good? You think that it has a chance to be good? Fine by me. That's your opinion. I might not agree with it, but I'm not pushing this.

[Stu]

Ooooh! So it was the exagerrated statement in capitals that sent you over the edge! Oh you're right. I was so over-stimulated i had to step outside for a moment.

On that note, your constant choice to accept sarcastic remarks as compliments really doesn't do you any favours.

And making you "feel shameful for my opinion"? Grow a set will you. I have a different opinion to yours, that's all. You say you "could care less" about me being a Wii fanboy or not, so why mention it?

[BahamutRetsu]

But why do you think it would "destroy" all its beauty. At worst the game would look like DSC (especially Operation Javier scenario) and that game doesn't look bad. I'm playing RE5 on a notebook with integrated gpu (Radeon HD3200) and even though all settings are set to middle-low and resolution is 800x480, the game still looks good and plays good and the only significant fps drops occur in the chamber with all those capsules, where you fight U-8.

And about gameplay sacrifices - I don't really know what would they remove. The only thing that I can think of is co-op, so you would be forced to play with AI Sheva, but that's it. The game plays exactly like RE4 (with more melee actions and inventory in real time); every level consist of a series of closed rooms (few are big, the rest is really small); apart from the Public Assembly level, there aren't even that much enemies on screen at once. As much as I like (love) RE5, it's a SD game in HD graphics. Gameplay wise there isn't really anything that couldn't be done on PS2 or GC, not to mention Wii.

Well it I think it would destroy RE5's beauty, because RE5 is a HD game with PS3/360 level graphics. It was meant to be played like this originally. In case of RE4 Wii we got improvement, and in case of RE5 Wii we get degradation. All this lighting, resolution, textures, etc. will go to hell on Wii. RE5 is mostly a visual/audio experience. Wii doesnt even support DD5.1, let alone PCM. I would never buy a RE5 Wii edition only because of some controls, but that's me. For those who only have a Wii, yes, it would be awesome. I'd happy for them. But I'd rather see Capcom waste time and money on something completely new.

[BahamutRetsu]

Ooooh! So it was the exagerrated statement in capitals that sent you over the edge! Oh you're right. I was so over-stimulated i had to step outside for a moment.

On that note, your constant choice to accept sarcastic remarks as compliments really doesn't do you any favours.

And making you "feel shameful for my opinion"? Grow a set will you. I have a different opinion to yours, that's all. You say you "could care less" about me being a Wii fanboy or not, so why mention it?

Well, I never went over the edge so I have no idea what you are talking about.

Those were sarcastic remarks?

I can don't care and still mention it, don't see how one excludes the other.

Btw It was you who answered to my 1st post. It shows well how much you care about my opinion. Not the other way around. If you didn't care, you would just ignore it or reply with calm explanations or questions. No need for offencive crap, even if there was little of it.

Take Archelons post as example. He just said his opinion, no angry remarks, no over the top stimulation. You on the other hand obviously can't calm down.

[Stu]

Where did i say i didn't care about your opinion?! Oh let me guess, i didn't say it "per se", right? Obviously i commented on it, because i have a different opinion. Hence, we're on what's called a "discussion" board.

If you want to take it further just write on my profile wall, because this is off-topic enough. Just try not to make more things up. Thanks.

[BahamutRetsu]

Where did i say i didn't care about your opinion?! Oh let me guess, i didn't say it "per se", right? Obviously i commented on it, because i have a different opinion. Hence, we're on what's called a "discussion" board.

If you want to take it further just write on my profile wall, because this is off-topic enough. Just try not to make more things up. Thanks.

Where did I say you didn't care about my opinion? lol You commented on it? Good. We are on discussion board? Glad you noticed. I like discussions, but I hate when people start getting agressive during them.

[Stu]

"It shows well how much you care about my opinion"

I'd never said anything to the contrary, that's my point.

[MeganGrass]

Let's think about this, people.

RE4 worked very well for the Wii, simply and majorly because the Nintendo Wii is essentially a beefy GameCube, the same console in which RE4 was designed and developed to work so-well on. Why RE4 looks and plays so well in the Wii version is a no-brainer, because the Wii contains actual/upgraded GameCube hardware.

CAPCOM recently stated that the Nintendo Wii couldn't even handle RE5's Title Screen CGI. If that's not bad enough, keep this in-mind - Darkside Chronicles, a video game currently in-dev specifically for the Nintendo Wii, has mediocre graphics (particularly the textures used for player/room models). People on this very forum have even voiced their concern over the poor graphic quality of the upcoming DC... If you are unaware of this issue, just watch some of the latest videos and look closely at the textures/models.

With these facts in-hand, the question is raised: How could RE5, a video game of such graphics-caliber, be ported to console using [outdated] technology it wasn't even designed for? Even using the MT Framework, this is a far-stretch for CAPCOM to pursue.

I praise CAPCOM if they can accomplish porting RE5 to Wii, simply for their badass coding skill... and it would be a dream to play RE5 with a motion-based controller, but I hope that doesn't come in the form of a diluted Wii port; i'd rather wait for Sony and Micorsoft's motion controllers...

[Stu]

CAPCOM recently stated that the Nintendo Wii couldn't even handle RE5's Title Screen CGI.

It amazes me that people still take that so seriously.

How could RE5, a video game of such graphics-caliber, be ported to console using [outdated] technology it wasn't even designed for? Even using the MT Framework, this is a far-stretch for CAPCOM to pursue.

Permit me to answer a question with a question?

How could RE4, a game blah blah blah blah be ported to a cellphone?

Answer: With necessary sacrifices. What was the result? A perfectly playable title downgraded from it's considerably more powerful predecessor. Nothing to stop the same thing happening again.

Personally, i can't believe anyone would think for a second that Capcom wouldn't be interested in porting a game...particularly a franchise that has already shifted millions of units (one of which was in it's THIRD console iteration!) to the console with the highest userbase!

[BahamutRetsu]

"It shows well how much you care about my opinion"

I'd never said anything to the contrary, that's my point.

And my point is, let's stop this. I don't want to continue arguing with you about something so trivial.

The Wii version will look like shit, play like shit. My final input here. My opinion. Hope no one here will take it too close to heart.

And Big Stu, I don't want to finish this in bad blood, so let's stop this in "piece". Sorry if I offended you in any way.

MarkGrass, I totally agree with you. If there will be RE5 on Wii let's hope it will be without issues.

[BahamutRetsu]

It amazes me that people still take that so seriously.

Permit me to answer a question with a question?

How could RE4, a game blah blah blah blah be ported to a cellphone?

Answer: With necessary sacrifices. What was the result? A perfectly playable title downgraded from it's considerably more powerful predecessor. Nothing to stop the same thing happening again.

Personally, i can't believe anyone would think for a second that Capcom wouldn't be interested in porting a game...particularly a franchise that has already shifted millions of units (one of which was in it's THIRD console iteration!) to the console with the highest userbase!

Biggest userbase doesn't mean biggest consumption of horror games. On the contrary, horror games sell pretty bad on Wii. DS Extraction is a good example. In % biggest sales for mature games will be on PC/360/PS3. That would balance out everything. Porting RE5 to Wii will take alot of time. They'd rather make another cheap on-rails shooter. But only yime will tell.

[MeganGrass]

It amazes me that people still take that so seriously.

Well, facts are facts.

Permit me to answer a question with a question?

How could RE4, a game blah blah blah blah be ported to a cellphone?

Answer: With necessary sacrifices. What was the result? A perfectly playable title downgraded from it's considerably more powerful predecessor. Nothing to stop the same thing happening again.

And therein lies (one of the) the problem(s) - downgrading. Textures, model/poly amounts, CGI resolution, everything will have to be downgraded for this to be accomplished, successfully. I don't have anything against this, really, as it would be beneficial for Wii owners who have yet to play Resident Evil 5.

Another problem, and CAPCOM is infamous for this one - adding new content exclusive to *console* version. This makes 360/PS3/Wii fanboys irate that their console of choice doesn't include the new content, and pisses other people off, like me, who own all consoles and have to give more money to CAPCOM for yet another version of an already released game, all just to experience the new content.

I can only hope that if CAPCOM does indeed port RE5 to the Wii, that it doesn't contain extras that the 360/PS3 version doesn't. Nothing against Wii, as I love mine - i'm just sick and tired of playing monopoly with CAPCOM.

[Stu]

Biggest userbase doesn't mean biggest consumption of horror games. On the contrary, horror games sell pretty bad on Wii. DS Extraction is a good example.

Biggest userbase, is biggest userbase none the less. And it's a userbase that to date has lapped up Resident Evil.

And no Dead Space, a still unproven franchise (whether the masses choose to accept that or not) is not a good example.

[Stu]

Well, facts are facts.

It's a fact he said it, doesn't mean it's true that the Wii couldn't handle the title screen though.

And therein lies (one of the) the problem(s) - downgrading. Textures, model/poly amounts, CGI resolution, everything will have to be downgraded for this to be accomplished, successfully.

As i've said though, they're sacrifices people are willing to accept.

I don't have anything against this, really, as it would be beneficial for Wii owners who have yet to play Resident Evil 5.

Back to my previous example, but the same could be said for Resident Evil, switching the Wii for a cellphone or iPod.

[Mr_Zombie]

On the contrary, horror games sell pretty bad on Wii. DS Extraction is a good example.

DS Extraction is an on-rail shooter. Wii users didn't want yet another on-rail shooter (that was another "test game"), they wanted a normal, tpp survivor-horror. I wouldn't be surprised if DSC would blown too.