Resident Evil 6 Leon Gameplay Video

[ElusionM]

It was a defense reaction to seeing a friend infected. Telling him to stay where he is was his way of stalling. It's part of his hesitation. And it's different than a random zombie because it's a friend he knew personally. Someone close to him was affected which is different and a natural human reaction.

It's why a doctor wouldn't do surgery on his own daughter unless he was the only one who can do it. Or why a hunter has a hard time putting down their own dog but no qualms shooting a deer. If it becomes personal then logic and rationalizing become a problem.

I'm not sure this is as big of a problem as you're making it out to be. So by all means agree to disagree. But I'll let the examples speak for themselves.

Yet you still don't get it. You just proved it yourself, that the whole situation was stupid; since Leon KNEW the president was a zombie, stalling it only makes things worse for his case (in script, not in terms of danger). You can't label the shortcoming and inconsistency with "stalling", because he stalled nothing by telling the president to stand back (this alone proves the foolishness of his statement, the zombie didn't hesitate for a milli second even). Him not pulling the trigger is understandable, but calling out to any living dead, doesn't matter if it was his brother Arnold S. Kennedy, the statement "stand back" to a zombie with 15 years of everything mentioned, itself is wrong in every way possible.

You'll have to come up with something better than "the president was his best friend, so it's totally normal for him to try to tell him to stand back". Because last I recall, no rookie Leon did that, nor a 17 year inexperienced weak child.

[Smiley]

It's irrational and would be logical to just shoot him. But that's the point of being conflicted.

[ElusionM]

Which brings us back to the original cause of concern, that Capcom is taking the naive and soft character concept too far, to the point Leon sounds and looks like an idiot. Let's just hope he only makes these mistakes in the University portion of the game; the manipulation is a given (confirmed even), but at least that makes sense and isn't off for his character.

Overall, liking the direction they're taking despite some shortcomings. Leon with his RE2 characteristics, stripped of the ridiculous and lame attitude he had in 4 and degen, sounds great. And the fact he's finally serious is a great touch as well. Just hope Capcom kept all their new ideas and changes moderate and not too extreme following the examples of what's shown in the demo.

[Dracarys]

One look at Jill in RE6 and it is clear she is not a majini, combined with the non-majini abilities further highlighting that she not infected is instant hope she could be saved. Plus that 'Kennedy report' Chris read no doubt mentioned Leon and Ashley being cured of plagas, so even if Chris did think she was plaga infected (extremely doubtful, but even if he did) there was still good reason to believe she could be saved still.

No such case for Leon, the way he behaves in the entire demo walkthrough is like someone who never seen an infection or zombie before, right from the start with the president to the blatently infected father and daughter, and thinking he could save the people he saw getting eaten on the camera is just stupid. I can only assume there is an amnesia-virus subplot that has spread from Chris to Leon, because there is no other reason for him to act so stupid after all his experience.

[Smiley]

No one said that she was infected like the majini but clear signs showed that she was on something and not herself. Chris didn't know what it was nor did he know if there was a way to save her until the opportunity presented itself later on.

What you're insisting is that there is someone too far gone to be saved. As is the case when Jill was infected with the T-virus in 3 and "cured" before she became a zombie. But with Leon and Ashley they had the parasites removed before they were fully taken over.

Now if Jill was infected with a plagas then removal of a parasite would be pointless at her stage. But she wasn't. That still doesn't change that Chris and Sheva had no idea what she was infected with or if there was a way to save her when they initially uncovered that she was the plague doctor working with Wesker.

[Dracarys]

No one said that she was infected like the majini but clear signs showed that she was on something and not herself. Chris didn't know what it was nor did he know if there was a way to save her until the opportunity presented itself later on.

So with Jill there was the possibility to be saved. Unlike someone who already turned into a zombie and was munching on human flesh.

[Kei_M]

This isn't the T-virus. I don't think it's completely unreasonable for Leon to hope that this virus would effect the President's mind differently. I think he knew it was hopeless to try...but he couldn't NOT try, not only is it his friend it's the PRESIDENT. Killing the President is kind of a big no-no, so I'd make sure that he was REALLY a dead&gone zombie before I blew his brains out.

How blatant is the fathers infection? He coughs? That's never been a sign for infection (outside of plagas) and he clearly didn't have any bites, he was probably infected by that fog...same with the daughter, she was covered in blood but so was the room they found her in. It could have easily come from that room. As I said, Leon has a big heart...he wasn't going to go shoot this guys daughter in the head as soon as she died and by the time she turned the power went out and he couldn't see.

[Smiley]

There's no way to determine at that point whether Jill could be saved or not. Chris' only means was to reason with Jill because he couldn't face killing her. Leon reasoning with Benford was a defensive reaction because he couldn't face killing him.

[News Bot]

But Jill was infected. Not like the other majini, but she was infected with something. We later find out it's P30, but at the time Chris didn't know nor did he have any indication on how to save her until the device was seen. Till then getting beaten up was not a strategy. He didn't want to kill her and was prone to getting attacked.

And shock comes in forms of reason. Stay back is a clear defense. Not because Leon wouldn't shoot him (he did) but because he didn't want to.

Can you be "infected" with a drug?

[Dracarys]

There's no way to determine at that point whether Jill could be saved or not.

She clearly was not a majini, ergo whatever was brainwashing her could possibly be undone. With Jill there was great possibility she could be saved. With the president there was zero possibility, no room for such hopes.

[Smiley]

Can a drug cause infection? That depends. Chemical based infections aren't unheard of though, but in the realms of this fiction P30 was created from experimentation on Progenitor.

She clearly was not a majini, ergo whatever was brainwashing her could possibly be undone. With Jill there was great possibility she could be saved. With the president there was zero possibility, no room for such hopes.

Again, there was no way to determine that at the time regarding Jill. There were clearly other means of B.O.W.s caused from more than just majini. Ruling out majini doesn't mean you automatically know someone can be saved or not.

[Dracarys]

Again, there was no way to determine that at the time regarding Jill.

Yes there was, Majini have clear visual indicators.

There were clearly other means of B.O.W.s caused from more than just majini. Ruling out majini doesn't mean you automatically know someone can be saved or not.

Yeah, hence the possibility to be saved if you don't know what it is. Unlike with a person who already became full fledged zombie munching on human flesh.

[News Bot]

Yes there was, Majini have clear visual indicators.

Yeah, hence the possibility to be saved if you don't know what it is. Unlike with a person who already became full fledged zombie munching on human flesh.

The point Smiley is making is that Majini aren't the only possible infectees. Jill could have been infected with something else (and was, although more doped than infected).

[Smiley]

No one is saying that Jill was suspected of being a majini though. So the majini traits never factored into it. What you do see from Jill are indications that she's not herself when she aides Wesker, attacks Chris and Sheva, and has physical super human abilities. A possibility could only be factored on blind faith until the P30 device was presented which didn't happen till later. And since then all Chris could do was react in the same way most would.

You bring down a threat, but if it's someone close you don't want to believe it's them. You're in a state of denial. You try to reason with them. Leon went through the same notions, and ultimately did what he had to do because Helena would have been killed otherwise. It doesn't matter if it's a seventeen year old kid or a trained government agent. If it's someone you genuinely are concerned for then it's natural to be conflicted.

[Darkmoon]

What clear visual indicators do Majini have?



There's nothing there to make me go, 'Holy shit, parasites have taken over there brain!'

Yeah, sometimes they have red eyes, plaid skin and some other issues such as head tentacles...but not all of them, and not instantly.

I wonder if Leon's shock was two fold. As mentioned, the guy was both the President and his friend, which is likely to give most people pause. But second of all - it shouldn't happen. The President was probably one of the first persons to get vaccinated against the t-virus, and while vaccines can fuck up and infect rather than protect, I'm guessing it's been a bit too long. So as far as Leon knew, what was happening was impossible. Of course, it obviously wasn't, but he didn't know the C-Virus existed yet.